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Any changes to BiS with this patch?

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SmellyUnlimited
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For Mag and Stam

As of now I’m assuming no, as no big class/gear changes have occurred, but was curious if PTS dps tests told a different tale.

At this point I’m just starting to hold on to any and all gear, assuming it’ll be BiS someday....
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  • Runefang
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    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?
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  • Runefang
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    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?

    Back bar enchants are only triggered by back bar abilities. And vice versa. So infused flame enchants on the back bar are performing better than spell/weapon dmg.
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    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?

    Stam "might" be better off with absorb stam or disease on the bow for ehail / caltrop / pinject ticks instead of poisons, in which case infused vMA bow's might be better than nirnhoned.

    I haven't tested or seen parses though so grain of salt.
  • LiquidPony
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    Tannus15 wrote: »
    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?

    Stam "might" be better off with absorb stam or disease on the bow for ehail / caltrop / pinject ticks instead of poisons, in which case infused vMA bow's might be better than nirnhoned.

    I haven't tested or seen parses though so grain of salt.

    Hard to test anything on stam, especially with a bow, considering bow animations have been completely broken for 2 consecutive PTS patches now.

    The change to enchant procs is a pretty minor change that might have a very good effect on the meta. If it's possible to run absorb stamina without a significant DPS loss (as it is now by not running poisons), that'll be a nice little boost to non-NB builds that struggle with resources.

    Unfortunately, there are no other really significant combat/gear changes so far. The only thing slightly interesting is Blood Moon, which appears to do similar DPS to other meta sets on some builds (e.g., stamsorc with Relequen + Blood Moon) ... but that's on a target skeleton. Managing the proc in real content will be a pain, so that said it looks like the gear meta is going to stick through this patch.
    Edited by LiquidPony on July 26, 2018 5:57PM
  • DuskMarine
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    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    For Mag and Stam

    As of now I’m assuming no, as no big class/gear changes have occurred, but was curious if PTS dps tests told a different tale.

    At this point I’m just starting to hold on to any and all gear, assuming it’ll be BiS someday....

    nothings really changed ever honestly ive been running the same build and it still hits the hardest so really whatever worked before works now
  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    Trail will go 12 werewolf.
    WW only
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Trail will go 12 werewolf.
    WW only

    Lol. I would love that.

    Ugh, so all this means is I have to go back to farming Advancing weapons and a BSW inferno. The salad days of Mechanical Acuity are long gone.
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  • Tasear
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Tannus15 wrote: »
    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?

    Stam "might" be better off with absorb stam or disease on the bow for ehail / caltrop / pinject ticks instead of poisons, in which case infused vMA bow's might be better than nirnhoned.

    I haven't tested or seen parses though so grain of salt.

    Hard to test anything on stam, especially with a bow, considering bow animations have been completely broken for 2 consecutive PTS patches now.

    The change to enchant procs is a pretty minor change that might have a very good effect on the meta. If it's possible to run absorb stamina without a significant DPS loss (as it is now by not running poisons), that'll be a nice little boost to non-NB builds that struggle with resources.

    Unfortunately, there are no other really significant combat/gear changes so far. The only thing slightly interesting is Blood Moon, which appears to do similar DPS to other meta sets on some builds (e.g., stamsorc with Relequen + Blood Moon) ... but that's on a target skeleton. Managing the proc in real content will be a pain, so that said it looks like the gear meta is going to stick through this patch.

    What's broken about the bow animations?
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Tannus15 wrote: »
    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    I think the only thing that will change is enchants.

    Ah, I’m guessing from the imbued off-hand no longer buffing the main?

    Stam "might" be better off with absorb stam or disease on the bow for ehail / caltrop / pinject ticks instead of poisons, in which case infused vMA bow's might be better than nirnhoned.

    I haven't tested or seen parses though so grain of salt.

    Hard to test anything on stam, especially with a bow, considering bow animations have been completely broken for 2 consecutive PTS patches now.

    The change to enchant procs is a pretty minor change that might have a very good effect on the meta. If it's possible to run absorb stamina without a significant DPS loss (as it is now by not running poisons), that'll be a nice little boost to non-NB builds that struggle with resources.

    Unfortunately, there are no other really significant combat/gear changes so far. The only thing slightly interesting is Blood Moon, which appears to do similar DPS to other meta sets on some builds (e.g., stamsorc with Relequen + Blood Moon) ... but that's on a target skeleton. Managing the proc in real content will be a pain, so that said it looks like the gear meta is going to stick through this patch.

    If you’re struggling with resources that sounds like a L2B (learn to build) problem.
    There are plenty of methods in game to improve sustainability.
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  • ruikkarikun
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    heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Trail will go 12 werewolf.
    WW only

    This will be amazing lol
  • The_Protagonist
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    heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Trail will go 12 werewolf.
    WW only

    It's always nice to see WW on trAils :trollface:
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