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WaltherCarraway · July 2018

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

The issue with AD is simply population, it has little to do with skill. Winning campaigns is not a measure of skill or how good your guild is, it's a measure of how many people on your faction can log on at once, and log on constantly, to take objectives on the map whether there is opposition or not. If you want to win a campaign just Zerg down the map as hard as you can as often as you can because that's all cyrodill will ever be until the devs change the Dynamics. Hope this helps.

You have no idea about the current state of Alliance War.

AD did bolded part better than EP during last campaign but still lost that one. LOL

Playing too much "1vX" and dropping DBOS around a rss tower or a big rock have blindfolded you.

because cyrodill was not designed to be a strategic, skill based map that rewards knowing how to play your class inside and out , and that's fine. Not everyone has to the time to put into learning their stuff. That's why the map is appealing to the vast majority of casual players and it's payed off for ZoS

LOL, I'll just leave it here.

BTW i really have one mighty chudan head one pair of lord warden shoulders all impen bone pirate 3x agility and master DW and battle axe on my stamplar. i utilize potl, dw bleed, 2h bleed, jab to earn kills. I'm feeling like a skilled small scaler now. You satisfied?

Joshlenoir · July 2018

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

The issue with AD is simply population, it has little to do with skill. Winning campaigns is not a measure of skill or how good your guild is, it's a measure of how many people on your faction can log on at once, and log on constantly, to take objectives on the map whether there is opposition or not. If you want to win a campaign just Zerg down the map as hard as you can as often as you can because that's all cyrodill will ever be until the devs change the Dynamics. Hope this helps.

You have no idea about the current state of Alliance War.

AD did bolded part better than EP during last campaign but still lost that one. LOL

Playing too much "1vX" and dropping DBOS around a rss tower or a big rock have blindfolded you.

because cyrodill was not designed to be a strategic, skill based map that rewards knowing how to play your class inside and out , and that's fine. Not everyone has to the time to put into learning their stuff. That's why the map is appealing to the vast majority of casual players and it's payed off for ZoS

LOL, I'll just leave it here.

BTW i really have one mighty chudan head one pair of lord warden shoulders all impen bone pirate 3x agility and master DW and battle axe on my stamplar. i utilize potl, dw bleed, 2h bleed, jab to earn kills. I'm feeling like a skilled small scaler now. You satisfied?

Well you don't small scale, so I don't know what you're talking about.
And just because you use those doesn't meant you're good at the class.
Anyways, good talk.

WaltherCarraway · July 2018

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

The issue with AD is simply population, it has little to do with skill. Winning campaigns is not a measure of skill or how good your guild is, it's a measure of how many people on your faction can log on at once, and log on constantly, to take objectives on the map whether there is opposition or not. If you want to win a campaign just Zerg down the map as hard as you can as often as you can because that's all cyrodill will ever be until the devs change the Dynamics. Hope this helps.

You have no idea about the current state of Alliance War.

AD did bolded part better than EP during last campaign but still lost that one. LOL

Playing too much "1vX" and dropping DBOS around a rss tower or a big rock have blindfolded you.

because cyrodill was not designed to be a strategic, skill based map that rewards knowing how to play your class inside and out , and that's fine. Not everyone has to the time to put into learning their stuff. That's why the map is appealing to the vast majority of casual players and it's payed off for ZoS

LOL, I'll just leave it here.

BTW i really have one mighty chudan head one pair of lord warden shoulders all impen bone pirate 3x agility and master DW and battle axe on my stamplar. i utilize potl, dw bleed, 2h bleed, jab to earn kills. I'm feeling like a skilled small scaler now. You satisfied?

Well you don't small scale, so I don't know what you're talking about.
And just because you use those doesn't meant you're good at the class.
Anyways, good talk.

Yep I suddenly don't small scale. My primary guild sounds more like "EP Zerg Squad" rather than "EP Hit Squad" to you.

idc.

Anazasi · July 2018

ZOS won't change the dynamics till they are forced to change dynamics. IT's time for a faction Reroll. If you can't beat them join them. *** the good fight.... it's gone. Now it's just destroy the game. I will bring another 50 EP players to the field 6 nights a week and roll Cyrodiil till its all Red 100% of the time so ZOS is forced to fix the broken mechanics. Enjoy. see you on the RED side.

Joshlenoir · July 2018

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

The issue with AD is simply population, it has little to do with skill. Winning campaigns is not a measure of skill or how good your guild is, it's a measure of how many people on your faction can log on at once, and log on constantly, to take objectives on the map whether there is opposition or not. If you want to win a campaign just Zerg down the map as hard as you can as often as you can because that's all cyrodill will ever be until the devs change the Dynamics. Hope this helps.

You have no idea about the current state of Alliance War.

AD did bolded part better than EP during last campaign but still lost that one. LOL

Playing too much "1vX" and dropping DBOS around a rss tower or a big rock have blindfolded you.

because cyrodill was not designed to be a strategic, skill based map that rewards knowing how to play your class inside and out , and that's fine. Not everyone has to the time to put into learning their stuff. That's why the map is appealing to the vast majority of casual players and it's payed off for ZoS

LOL, I'll just leave it here.

BTW i really have one mighty chudan head one pair of lord warden shoulders all impen bone pirate 3x agility and master DW and battle axe on my stamplar. i utilize potl, dw bleed, 2h bleed, jab to earn kills. I'm feeling like a skilled small scaler now. You satisfied?

Well you don't small scale, so I don't know what you're talking about.
And just because you use those doesn't meant you're good at the class.
Anyways, good talk.

Yep I suddenly don't small scale. My primary guild sounds more like "EP Zerg Squad" rather than "EP Hit Squad" to you.

idc.

EP hit squad ? LOL.
For the sake of forum rules I'm going to keep the rest of my thoughts to myself, this was a nice constructive conversation however, thank you for your time.

D0RID0RI240 · July 2018

Funny, perhaps your efforts would bear more fruit if you peeled off a lil of the overwhelming AD pop advantage from the other two lvl 50 + campaigns. They stack real good in overwhelming numbers and like seiging castles, so they deffo fit your recruitment profile!

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · July 2018

Firstly... Aggressive healers

Secondly;

Anazasi wrote: »

ZOS won't change the dynamics till they are forced to change dynamics. IT's time for a faction Reroll. If you can't beat them join them. *** the good fight.... it's gone. Now it's just destroy the game. I will bring another 50 EP players to the field 6 nights a week and roll Cyrodiil till its all Red 100% of the time so ZOS is forced to fix the broken mechanics. Enjoy. see you on the RED side.

I have news for you. EU has been perma yellow every morning/day for 2 years and ZoS hasn't changed the mechanics. Would be interesting to see you try and play EP though XD

Anazasi · July 2018

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Firstly... Aggressive healers
Secondly;

Anazasi wrote: »

ZOS won't change the dynamics till they are forced to change dynamics. IT's time for a faction Reroll. If you can't beat them join them. *** the good fight.... it's gone. Now it's just destroy the game. I will bring another 50 EP players to the field 6 nights a week and roll Cyrodiil till its all Red 100% of the time so ZOS is forced to fix the broken mechanics. Enjoy. see you on the RED side.

I have news for you. EU has been perma yellow every morning/day for 2 years and ZoS hasn't changed the mechanics. Would be interesting to see you try and play EP though XD

one does not have to try to play ep it's a matter of rolling and logging in.

imredneckson · July 2018

I've fought on every faction and have had a blast fighting with many guilds but the guilds that bar me from joining due to I'm a multifaction player are just losing support and allies. I'd help them if I could but I'd be more inclined to do so if they were a bit more open minded and less xenophobic to others who play another faction.

zyk · July 2018

I just wish all the decent players who talk 'looking good fights' would back it up by playing for the underdog. The disparity in small group players between AD and the other factions is quite large.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · July 2018

zyk wrote: »

I just wish all the decent players who talk 'looking good fights' would back it up by playing for the underdog. The disparity in small group players between AD and the other factions is quite large.

@zyk its interesting you think AD has a lack of good small groups. Which groups do you count on the other factions / ad?

zyk · July 2018

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

I just wish all the decent players who talk 'looking good fights' would back it up by playing for the underdog. The disparity in small group players between AD and the other factions is quite large.

zyk its interesting you think AD has a lack of good small groups. Which groups do you count on the other factions / ad?

I'm not going to call out specific players, groups or guilds, but it's pretty obvious in many ways. When I play sometime between 9pm and 3AM EDT, the small group activity from EP and DC groups is apparent just by looking at the resource activity on the map. But I don't just look at the resources, I go down and help other randoms fight those groups so I can see for myself. It's not abnormal for a different small group to occupy each of Fare's resources. That's not to say the only action is at Fare. There are times when the majority of AD's resources are occupied by different small groups.

EP has so many small groups running at times that they basically surf each other and effectively zerg -- though I would guess they are in denial about that.

Beyond that, you can see for yourself in the GvG Discord. The absence of AD groups is obvious and well-recognized by everyone there. I would say a majority of Legend duelers also main EP and DC characters and run in small groups when they're not dueling.

VaranisArano · July 2018

Once again a PVP thread about Cyrodiil devolves into Player vs Player on the forums.

Can we keep this on track? Or are we going to settle the guild v guild ego match in the forums instead of on the battlefield where, I don't know, it might actually make a difference in the campaign score?

imredneckson · July 2018

Agreed @VaranisArano . If this thread doesn't stay on track it will be closed.

arkansas_ESO · July 2018

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

The issue with AD is simply population, it has little to do with skill. Winning campaigns is not a measure of skill or how good your guild is, it's a measure of how many people on your faction can log on at once, and log on constantly, to take objectives on the map whether there is opposition or not. If you want to win a campaign just Zerg down the map as hard as you can as often as you can because that's all cyrodill will ever be until the devs change the Dynamics. Hope this helps.

You have no idea about the current state of Alliance War.

AD did bolded part better than EP during last campaign but still lost that one. LOL

Playing too much "1vX" and dropping DBOS around a rss tower or a big rock have blindfolded you.

implying you can see anything behind the 20 people you zerg with lol

adirondack · July 2018

It is easier to find an excuse than to find a reason - Doug Brown

Thx, Ray

HaroniNDeorum · July 2018

Holy *** that was fast, how the thread moved to other direction in less than 2 days hahah well i hope it keeps on focus so AD opens the eyes, because tbh we all know whats happening and how AD can grow up, except (lol) most Ad guilds which refuse to accept it and they stuck in what adiron says post ago: It is easier to find an excuse than to find a reason.

too long don...blah blah, my faction, please just embrace the truth.

Ghostbane · July 2018

I'll start writing my C.V.

SwampRaider · July 2018

Hi DC player here.

I see that list of guilds and laugh. How can AD have that many guilds?

There are only 5 relevant DC guilds I know of. How AD does so horrible yet have that many active guilds... .makes me wonder.

DC has

BoD
GoD
IL
SG
OoTC
IA

Problem: only 2 of those guilds seldom play at same time. 3 if lucky. The groups average. 8-16 players. No one leads pug groups regularly. 3 times a week, only 1 guild is active at a time. Usually prime time: think about it. 1 organized group of 10 players, and 90 unorganized pugs who don't like grouping OR don't want to lead.

DC somehow remains competitive even though we have less Guild groups

DC is dying.

courier · July 2018

SwampRaider wrote: »

Hi DC player here.

I see that list of guilds and laugh. How can AD have that many guilds?

There are only 5 relevant DC guilds I know of. How AD does so horrible yet have that many active guilds... .makes me wonder.

DC has

BoD
GoD
IL
SG
OoTC
IA

Problem: only 2 of those guilds seldom play at same time. 3 if lucky. The groups average. 8-16 players. No one leads pug groups regularly. 3 times a week, only 1 guild is active at a time. Usually prime time: think about it. 1 organized group of 10 players, and 90 unorganized pugs who don't like grouping OR don't want to lead.

DC somehow remains competitive even though we have less Guild groups

DC is dying.

When was the last campaign you were competitive? AD does pretty well given what they're up against, you knuckle heads banging on Roe and Brindle all day, EP faction guarding Alessia when they get it, Drac farming Fare... I say AD is improving leaps and bounds given that they go against.

Elong · July 2018

The Alliance is in full force today that's for sure! Looking forward to the Red Wedding though.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2018

Maybe log in an stretch out my PvP wings .

maxjapank · July 2018

Do you think EP could quit Emping and taking scroll before Oceanic logs on? Three days in a row now. I mean....I know you want to win the campaign. But please don't come on the forums saying that AD needs to get better organized. The fact of the matter is that EP is able to dominate with numbers during off-peak hours, and they take full advantage of running up the score. So get your facts straight. EP wins by pve-dooring every campaign during off-peak hours with superior numbers.

barshemm · July 2018

I guess EP has to do something to counter the 24x7 team green over the weekend inspired by this post

barshemm · July 2018

Just logged in, keep telling me about that EP dominance off hours (9:30am EST)

maxjapank · July 2018

barshemm wrote: »

Just logged in, keep telling me about that EP dominance off hours (9:30am EST)

Are you getting double teamed or is blue pop-locked to your 2 bar pop? There is a difference.

ZOS_JesC · July 2018

Greetings, we've closed this thread since it's derailed into guild vs. guild baiting, and naming and shaming. Please keep such things to PMs instead of threads. Thank you.