Crystal Blast, because instant cast chance >>>>>> a bit of splash damage.

Force Siphon. This probably is due to me always playing the healer, but the skill has no appeal to it in its current iteration.

it must be skills that never used in PvE or PvP including role-play PvE.

Explosive Charge is undodgeable and pulls NB out of Cloak. Much better than the other morph.

Unstable Wall of Elements explodes on recast, so it would be viable in PvP if only the AoE was not smaller than Blockade.

Mystic Orb is used quite regularly in PvP as it explodes for up to 40k tt damage on crits.

PVP skills - People just hide in zergs or over compensate with proc sets.

DoonerSeraph wrote: »

I would love if Baleful Mist turned you partially into mist, damaging non-undead nearby, with obviously lower damage reduction but not locking you out of skills, healing and mag regen.

That aside: Lightweight Trap Beast. It has a travel time, arming time, costs a c... ton of stamina, enough to make impossible to sustain the minor force for good time. Suggestion: Spread the DOT into 12 or 10 seconds, with the buff. Rearming trap would still deal double damage in the same time.

Sanguine Altar: everyone I know uses Overflowing Altar.

Spiked Bone Shield: loses badly to the Spinal Surge from the other morph.

Mystic Orb: Being a healer-oriented skill, Energy Orb seems a more obvious choice. Suggestion: Have it be a ground-targeted ability that spawns the orb there, where it stays until expired or popped. I dont think it would still be enough to overthrow Energy.

Explosive Charge: As said above, the aoe is very tiny and you need a target, what are the chances of having 2 casting enemies in such tiny area? Suggestion: Let you choose a place on the ground (with no min range) and leap there, DK style, piercing the ground on impact, interrupting in aoe, that way you have a mobility tool for templar, and a AOE interrupt that can be used like Deep Breath or a gap closer.

Radiant Aura: Very costly for what it does, if you apply it to a trash mob, it dies very fast and you end up with a negative balance of magicka. Elemental Drain beats it by a mile.

Unstable Wall of Elements: A shorter DOT is harder to mantain, the explosion is not attractive enough.

Impulse and morphs: Aoe spam died with the sustain nerfs in Morrowind, also Pulsar is bugged and only gives Minor Mangle to one target.

Magnum Shot: Used the skill like 2 weeks, got bugged and stuck so many times, self knockback sucks xD

Arrow Barrage: Endless Hail has sufficient range and radius, so this morph is pointless.

Venom Arrow: interrupt seems interesting. DOT execute seems way more. Death also stops enemy from casting

Berserker Rage: Morph of 2H ulti other than Onslaught. The 2H ulti as a whole is not widely used aside from some *BONK* builds.

Thrive in Chaos: Rend thrives over this morph , you need at least 3 targets and asylum DW extension if you hope to outdps Rend.

Flare (support skill): Underused overall, supposed to counter stealth but fails at that. Hard.

Evil Hunter: costs around 4k stam, to reduce the cost of other FG skills in a tiny 5s window, you would need to unnecessarily spam circle of protection to compensate the use of Evil Hunter. The reveal radius of the base skill is very tiny.

Drain (Vampire): Stuns the opponent but locks you in a channel, could be a beam linking the vampire to the enemy without the channel and stun, just the heal, damage and morph effects.

Clouding Swarm: since it was changed to a gap-closer, every vampire that still uses Bat Swarm, uses Devouring. Materialise simply does not hit hard enough.

Trapping Webs only does enough damage if synergized, and the synergy is very clunky. Could be a poison based caltrops with a tinier radius and the unique synergy.

The other morph of Purge that does not decrease the cost. 20% max health is not a lot on DPS builds.

Brutal Pounce: timer management of Feral is just too important to pass up.

Honorable mention to a bad skill: Acid Spray. Deals some damage but the dot is sooo short. Quite hard to mantain on your target.

Some skills you mentioned I don't have enough experience with to comment, but there are some I have a lot of experience with-
Arrow Barrage - it has an increase range and radius. There's an old saying 'pick the right tool for the right job.' Sometimes endless hail just doesn't cut it ... sure, the cost 'per cast' may be cheaper, but that doesn't necessarily make it the better morph. Sometimes you really need the wider radius and/or increased range Arrow Barrage provides.

Venom Arrow - OMG! The interrupt is absolutely wonderful! Interrupting a casting enemy knocks them off balance ... and we love it when enemies are off balance! I do switch between morphs, both are good and have their place.

Revealing Flare is the base skill, the morphs are Lingering Flare (lasts longer) and the other morph is Scorching Flare - (burns hidden enemies). I absolutely love scorching flare and I use it so often! I have noticed that once I start using it others will start using it too. It doesn't just 'reveal' hidden enemies, it sets them on fire! Oh joy to the world! Oh happy day!

Trapping Webs does a fair amount of damage even without the synergy. Good to toss on the ram that is hammering away at the gate door (give'em a triple decker -- hot oil, caltrops and trapping webs). Since you can use it at range, toss one on any enemy siege (aim for where the player stands to fire the siege) ... and while your at it, add some caltrops for good measure.

Evil Hunter - that is the morph that reduces your fighter's guild skills while active. I generally go for camouflaged hunter. It actually works pretty good at revealing hidden (stealthed) enemies (both morphs reveal hidden enemies). Yes, the radius is small, but the fact that it can reveal hidden enemies is more of a 'bonus' since I often have this skill slotted anyway for the extra crit it provides (both morphs give you extra crit when slotted). I choose camo hunter over evil hunter for the increased damage I get when attacking from stealth.

Lightweight Beast Trap - what an absolute jewel of a skill! It can be set from range and that makes it such a gem! I almost hate to admit what I use this for ... let's just say I've managed to *** off a number of sorcs who like to throw down mines.

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

For the love of [Snip]. Don't make Trapping Webs usfeul, ever.
My Arachnophobia will have me act irrational and wipe my group.

But Explosive Charge, Force Siphon(Resto staff skill thing) Blessing of Restoration thingy, Other morph of Reverb. Bash. :>

Magnum Shot - I used to use this 2 years ago, the self knockback sucks though for 99% of situations. The heal from Draining Shot performs considerably better.

Trapping Webs - In theory this is a very good skill, but the positional requirements render it unused. If you had two ranged stam DPS they could trade synergies with this and get a 6-7k increase in DPS. However that takes them out of heal stack, and who is running two ranged stam dps anyways?

Arrow Barrage - Endless Hail is cheaper, synergizes with VMA bow for more damage, and lines up with other DOTs for easier and smoother rotation. The AOE size and range of Arrow Barrage is ideal, but it honestly needs to be increased in duration or in damage otherwise it will never be taken over Endless Hail by any serious player.

Venom Arrow - an interrupt is nice, but an execute on a DOT is way better. In PVP I don't really wish to CC people with an interrupt that isn't lined up for timed burst. There are far to few people hard casting anyways. In PVE in most situations its only ever nice to have and its never necessary, given considerably higher DPS with the other morph there is little reason to take a morph that is simply nice to have in 3% of situations.

Soul Trap and morphs - it could be really good with the resource return morph, however the damage is pretty bad which prevents its use in the majority of situations.

Igneous Weapons - the buffs it gives are far to available for such a niche skill, I used to be the only person I saw using it. Recently I've found I can get just as much value out of having an additional slot for another skill as I was getting with the buff so I've stopped using it.

Ash Cloud and morphs - both the damage and healing are weak, the duration is nice but the cost is high for a very low damage DOT or very low healing HOT.

Berserker Strike and morphs - too easy to miss in PVP, far to costly if it does miss. Virtually useless for PVE damage is too low and cost too high.

Lacerate and morphs - not good enough damage for most PVE applications, lacking significant utility in PVP applications. I think it could be good in PVP but I never see it, and I don't do DW builds.

Power Extraction - greater than 50% health its better than whirlwind, but when targets hit 50% health whirlwind becomes significantly better. It could in theory be used with 2H, but I never see it.

Elude - the increased duration doesn't hold a candle to snare/immobilization removal. Even more so when you consider how little of an increase it actually is.

Silver Shards - This skill used to get a lot of use back when it knocked down vampires and werewolves. It was still being used for single target burst on ranged gank builds, back when bow heavy attack gank builds existed. Now its far too costly and skills like Acid Spray massively out pace it for for damage.

Expert Hunter and morphs - the benefits of this skill are few, the active component sucks. The passive component is a weak buff that is almost entirely unnecessary. To be fair its impossible to tell if people are slotting this skill if they never use the active component.

Lightweight Beast Trap - I only slot this skill when testing dps setups on the PTS. Its dps is okay but not great, its duration is short and its cost is relatively high. Rearming Trap offers so much more.

Bombard - this skills saw use for a brief period as a way to grief zergs and ball groups. It was also useful for add control in dungeons, especially with non DK tanks. Not being able to root targets that are snared on a skill that snares targets for 6 seconds is all but useless. You can get one root out of it, provided no one has cast caltrops or some other form of AOE snare.

Morgul667 wrote: »

Circle of the undead ? Ring of preservation or something like that ?

Turn Undead, yes, its rarely used because costs a lot of stamina for a one-shot fear against Undead-Daedra-Werewolves. Ring of Preservation provides a unique roll dodge cost from inside the circle thats more useful for defensive purpose IMO.

About Scorching Flare, one of the merits of the skill is that it will absolutely cook most squishier builds, the damage is no joke.