BUY THE CRAFT BAG OUTRIGHT

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting. You give us more and more items all the time and nobody's bank can handle that. I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Apache_Kid · July 2018

1500 crowns?!? Try adding another 0 onto that one pal

Nestor · July 2018

You want the Craft Bag then Sub.

It is the primary benefit of subbing. Remove that incentive and enough people will cancel their subs that this game will die. Or become the Cash Shop P2W that no one wants.

Its kind of insulting that you want to destroy this game because you want the craft bag for basically one months subscription.

Turelus · July 2018

This topic has come up a number of times and whilst the community have different thoughts on it ZOS has been pretty keen to keep the bag as an ESO Plus perk.

It's one of the biggest perks of ESO Plus and moving it to a single purchase (regardless of cost) would no doubt cause a lot of people to drop their subs or just devalue them over all.

DaveMoeDee · July 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting. You give us more and more items all the time and nobody's bank can handle that. I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

If they ever sold it, it would be the most expensive item in the crowns store, more than a year's worth of sub crowns. Many of us would never sub again if we owned the crafting bag.

I don't know why you chose to start another one of these threads while putting in an absurdly small number like 1500 crowns.

SlippyCheeze · July 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting.

It isn't "insulting", it just isn't what you want. They don't do this deliberately to tell you they don't like you.

DarcyMardin · July 2018

Some of us have subscribed from the beginning of this game, primarily for the craft bag, paying $15 a month for over four years...and you want to buy it for 1500 crowns? LMAO.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

I don't understand the logic behind being willing to pay for it outright, yet not be willing to pay to sub.

126,000 crowns sounds about right. With an expected 10 year life span @ $15 a month for sub that works out to $900 at half off.

$900 or 126,000 crowns is what an ESO+ customer will pay if they maintain the sub for 50% of that duration.

Be willing to match that, and I'd say the craft bag is all yours.

Acrolas · July 2018

Craft Bag, used as a proper noun, is the in-game furnishing used to represent ESO+.

This indicates to me that they intend the Craft Bag to remain an immutable and exclusive ESO+ feature, and there will be no lesser bags of a similar function available through other means.

Aeslief · July 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Now who’s being insulting?

SilverWF · July 2018

I'm paying for ESO+ because of this:
1. Craft Bag. Hands down, most useful stuff in the game
2. Double bank and furnishing space. Not such important as prev. one, but still pretty useful
3. 1500 crowns. 1 month of ESO+ has a cost ~ equal to cost of 1500 crowns pack, so why even just buy crowns only? I'll pay for ESO+, would get the same amount of crowns and also some very useful features

Sparr0w · July 2018

Keep it eso+ or have it 'rented' so 1500 crowns for the month

DaveMoeDee · July 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

I'm paying for ESO+ because of this:
1. Craft Bag. Hands down, most useful stuff in the game
2. Double bank and furnishing space. Not such important as prev. one, but still pretty useful
3. 1500 crowns. 1 month of ESO+ has a cost ~ equal to cost of 1500 crowns pack, so why even just buy crowns only? I'll pay for ESO+, would get the same amount of crowns and also some very useful features

Who buys 1500 crown packs? If you can afford ESO+, you would be pretty dumb to buy crowns 1500 at a time.

White wabbit · July 2018

Not a hope in hell

JKorr · July 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting. You give us more and more items all the time and nobody's bank can handle that. I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Your willingness to support the game's continuing existence is truly heart-warming. [leave it up to the reader to decide whether this is /sarcasm or not]

Know what you can do for 1500 crowns? Get a sub for one month. Farm mats/gear/items so intensively that even Sheogorath would stand and applaud in amazement. Load up everything possible in your double bank space and endless crafting bag. Keep farming like crazy for the whole month. Before the month is over, cancel your sub. You won't be able to add more items to you bag or bank, of course. However you did manage to clear out your character inventory, so you've got space. AND you got 1500 crowns from the sub to spend in the crown store, you wonderful supportive person you.

I think a lot of the people who sub would have issues if they sold the crafting bag for one month's sub cost. Especially those players who subbed from the beginning when it was mandatory, and got no perks beyond being able to play the game in return.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Nestor wrote: »

You want the Craft Bag then Sub.

It is the primary benefit of subbing. Remove that incentive and enough people will cancel their subs that this game will die. Or become the Cash Shop P2W that no one wants.

Its kind of insulting that you want to destroy this game because you want the craft bag for basically one months subscription.

"destroy the game"? don't be ridiculous. You see people wearing/riding crown store items all the time.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Apache_Kid wrote: »

1500 crowns?!? Try adding another 0 onto that one pal

I'm not paying £70-90 for it. That's just ridiculous.

Emma_Overload · July 2018

Nestor wrote: »

You want the Craft Bag then Sub.

It is the primary benefit of subbing. Remove that incentive and enough people will cancel their subs that this game will die. Or become the Cash Shop P2W that no one wants.

Its kind of insulting that you want to destroy this game because you want the craft bag for basically one months subscription.

You know what the primary benefit of subbing used to be? Playing ESO.

ZOS created this whole dumb situation... players shouldn't have to suffer. I remember when players on these forums BEGGED ZOS not to go B2P, but they did it anyway. They created "Tamriel Unlimited" and told us that buying DLC was just as good as renting month to month. Well, that turned out to be a BIG FAT LIE.

So yes, OP is correct: the crafting bag is a SLAP IN THE FACE to every player who shelled out COLD HARD CASH up front for all the DLC!

Sparr0w · July 2018

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

I'm paying for ESO+ because of this:
1. Craft Bag. Hands down, most useful stuff in the game
2. Double bank and furnishing space. Not such important as prev. one, but still pretty useful
3. 1500 crowns. 1 month of ESO+ has a cost ~ equal to cost of 1500 crowns pack, so why even just buy crowns only? I'll pay for ESO+, would get the same amount of crowns and also some very useful features

Who buys 1500 crown packs? If you can afford ESO+, you would be pretty dumb to buy crowns 1500 at a time.

ExAcTlY

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Turelus wrote: »

This topic has come up a number of times and whilst the community have different thoughts on it ZOS has been pretty keen to keep the bag as an ESO Plus perk.

It's one of the biggest perks of ESO Plus and moving it to a single purchase (regardless of cost) would no doubt cause a lot of people to drop their subs or just devalue them over all.

you still gotta buy crowns to buy DLC. And there's plenty of DLC to buy. Plus, there's a dude in my guild who bought the big place outside of Ebonheart, furnished, for the extortionate price they sell it for.

Nestor · July 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

I'm paying for ESO+ because of this:

3. 1500 crowns. 1 month of ESO+ has a cost ~ equal to cost of 1500 crowns pack, so why even just buy crowns only? I'll pay for ESO+, would get the same amount of crowns and also some very useful features

If your someone who spends some crowns each month, this is just a strong an argument as the Craft Bag to sub. If your going to buy 1500 crowns or so, or more, each month, sub.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

JKorr wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting. You give us more and more items all the time and nobody's bank can handle that. I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Your willingness to support the game's continuing existence is truly heart-warming. [leave it up to the reader to decide whether this is /sarcasm or not]

Know what you can do for 1500 crowns? Get a sub for one month. Farm mats/gear/items so intensively that even Sheogorath would stand and applaud in amazement. Load up everything possible in your double bank space and endless crafting bag. Keep farming like crazy for the whole month. Before the month is over, cancel your sub. You won't be able to add more items to you bag or bank, of course. However you did manage to clear out your character inventory, so you've got space. AND you got 1500 crowns from the sub to spend in the crown store, you wonderful supportive person you.

I think a lot of the people who sub would have issues if they sold the crafting bag for one month's sub cost. Especially those players who subbed from the beginning when it was mandatory, and got no perks beyond being able to play the game in return.

so "I don't like your idea because it would annoy some people"?

Sparr0w · July 2018

Actually on Xbox it works out cheaper buying a month ESO+ than buying 1500 crowns... js

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

I'm paying for ESO+ because of this:
1. Craft Bag. Hands down, most useful stuff in the game
2. Double bank and furnishing space. Not such important as prev. one, but still pretty useful
3. 1500 crowns. 1 month of ESO+ has a cost ~ equal to cost of 1500 crowns pack, so why even just buy crowns only? I'll pay for ESO+, would get the same amount of crowns and also some very useful features

Who buys 1500 crown packs? If you can afford ESO+, you would be pretty dumb to buy crowns 1500 at a time.

yeah, I never just buy crowns, that would be ***.

Apherius · July 2018

My bank can handle that.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting.

It isn't "insulting", it just isn't what you want. They don't do this deliberately to tell you they don't like you.

you chopped the rest of the post that included the reason WHY.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Aeslief wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Now who’s being insulting?

how exactly is that insulting?

Vapirko · July 2018

Although I kind of like th option of letting my sub lapse and still being able to come back and check things out, if making this a sub only game would mean enough resources to fix PvP then that would be fine.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I don't understand the logic behind being willing to pay for it outright, yet not be willing to pay to sub.

126,000 crowns sounds about right. With an expected 10 year life span @ $15 a month for sub that works out to $900 at half off.

$900 or 126,000 crowns is what an ESO+ customer will pay if they maintain the sub for 50% of that duration.

Be willing to match that, and I'd say the craft bag is all yours.

I've spent more than enough on the game already thanks.

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

Sparr0w wrote: »

Keep it eso+ or have it 'rented' so 1500 crowns for the month

*slow clap*

VaranisArano · July 2018

Hey, so those inventory management issues you are having? Yeah, those are all part of ZOS' nefarious plan to get you to subscribe!

Yes, its a truly dastardly plan. If you just subscribe, you get the Crafting Bag and Double Bank Space (along with many other things). All your inventory management issues just go away!

(I mean, plan no attention to the man behind the curtain the fact that you could make mule characters with a maximum of 200 spaces each (maximum 3,000 slots per account), buy housing storage for another 360 slots, or make yourself a guild, get 10 people to join and create yourself your own guild bank for another 500 slots. Since you are complaining, I'm going to assume that you have already maxed out all these options and still need yet more inventory slots.)

The inventory management issues you are experiencing are a pain. That's deliberate. Because if you subscribe, a lot of those issues get better. That's an incentive to subscribe and send a constant bit of money ZOS' way.

Its up to you to decide whether Time is Money means that the time you save on inventory is worth a subscription or not. But frankly, ZOS isn't going to change one of the major incentives for people to subscribe just to match your price point.

Full disclosure: I don't subscribe. I deal with those same inventory issues (recently maxed out housing storage and have several characters that are effectively mules). I'm perfectly fine with the idea of having to subscribe in order to get the Crafting bag.