honestly tired of being *** by magsorcs
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
It's funny that "L2P" is somehow the answer to rune cage when you have players like Feng Rush complaining about how op rune cage is, because there is no counter. You can't "L2P" against it, because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
So, are you saying Feng Rush needs to L2P?
If the answer is yes, you are simply out of touch, and defending something because you use it knowing how ridiculous it is.
He started playing again? If you'd been on the forums, he and I almost always argue. He's like the worst guy to quote to me. He had a point on smart heal vs dumb damage but that's like the extent we agree on.
I actually talked to the man (when he played...) Have you?
I heard what he said...is there a point that you've talked to him? Because that doesn't change, at all, what he said about rune cage being ridiculous.
Thanks for your non-point though..5 -
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✭✭✭✭@Oreyn_Bearclaw you are correct, I solo queue almost 100% of the time. I've got guild mates that will like to tag along, but they usually get murdered because of my MMR (I'm usually near the top on all three leaderboards so I play a lot of BGs). We do a lot better when they log out of their mains, and hop on a magsorc though; which they acknowledge carries them.
Ironically one of my guild mates mains a magsorc, and he refuses to play it until they get nerfed. He's been playing on his magDK this patch.2 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm sure we'll see a better nerf to Rune Cage in the next couple weeks. ZoS is still looking at feedback and is gonna start applying the balances next week."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Sylosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rune cage can't 1 shot by itself, it's a timed combination of rune cage with like 4 other skills and a damage increase enchantment.
Yeah, rune cage is OP but so is fossilize and incap(current patch, not pts). Fossilize is literally a melee range rune cage, and both of them are broken. ZOS really just needs to do a big rework of PvP skills in general.
To an extent fossilise is that, but it is less broken for two reasons, firstly because it is melee, which allows more counter-play on that alone and secondly precisely because on sorc you can preload burst damage to a higher extent than DK, that means the 41m of unblocakable, undodgeable faceroll that rune cage is, is a bigger problem with sorc burst than fossilise is with DK burst.Edited by Sylosi on July 16, 2018 10:33PM6 -
Gprime31✭✭✭✭The problem is any mediocre player can be very effective on a mag sorc shackle litch meta is broken right now2
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✭The problem is any mediocre player can be very effective on a mag sorc shackle litch meta is broken right now
And any mediocre players playing Stamblade can be very effective on pretty standard stam setup. Then they think they are the best player in ESO till they get rekt by CC + ult combo.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel3 -
Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Turn rune cage into a 42 meter self damaging heal that doesn’t heal the caster. Problem solved.
Wait that was the fix to Agony being almost the exact same move5 -
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✭It's mages wrath/ implosion that are the problems. Skills like that have no place in pvp.1 -
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Lol have you even played anything other than a sorc? And yes if i have 18k and a sorc hits his curse frags execute with light attacks and weapon glyphs in between all while breaking the cc animation yes. Its broken as ***. Sorc main defense is absolute while stamina has many options to negate. On top of that its easy as *** to hit a full sorc combo. Melee has never been known for its ease of target acquisition (dizzy swing for example, major expedition is a lot harder for melee to deal with than mag because of the 7m range thing and lag). Lately ive been missing alot of light attacks even though the animation goes off (no damage) but my skill does....Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Your suggestions aren't realistic, but yeah magsorcs are insanely OP this patch, no other class is even close.
@Daus
Stamblade is still more dominant, they just arent quite as prevalent. Sorcs have a much lower floor because they are no doubt easier to play, but Stamblade has the higher ceiling for sure, be it dueling, open world, BGs, etc.
Not from my experience. I can usually guess outcome of a BGs match prior to it starting based team composition. Whichever team has the most magsorcs is typically the one that wins. It doesn't matter who's playing the class, that's the outcome the majority of the time.
@Daus
You dont play much in pre-mades then. A good pre-made will typically have 1 sorc and it has nothing to do with rune cage. You do it for steeling KBs with mages wrath. A team of 3-4 magic sorcs will get murdered by a properly built group, which usually has at least two stamina characters. In a pug frenzy, sure Mag Sorc has some advantages, and that is kinda my point. Mag sorc has a really low floor, but the ceiling is not as high as stamblade or frankly a few other classes.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Your suggestions aren't realistic, but yeah magsorcs are insanely OP this patch, no other class is even close.
@Daus
Stamblade is still more dominant, they just arent quite as prevalent. Sorcs have a much lower floor because they are no doubt easier to play, but Stamblade has the higher ceiling for sure, be it dueling, open world, BGs, etc.
@Swimguy
No. Sorcs have like 4 direct tools to counter stamblades and once they rune cage you under 80% your dead if they crit you once.
If that is your experience as a sNB, then sorry, L2P. If one sorc combo wrecks you with 80% health, something is going wrong on your end. Also, what direct tools are you talking about? Curse pulls you out of cloak. That's it. And if curse pulls you out of cloak, that combo is already ruined and the sorc needs to start over, assuming you dont just cloak again.
You can dodge/block the mages wrath which is part of the setup for the combo, and you can break free and doderoll the frags that is likely coming at you following the hard CC, and of course you can dodge the light attacks. Not only can a sNB roll dodge for days, they have their own source of evasion, and can cloak making the combo difficult to lineup in the first place. Point is, that combo should essentially never hit you all at once. stam NB is the hardest class to line up the sorc combo against. Second place is Stamplar because they have good pressure and a cheap purge.
I am not saying that a well executed sorc combo doesnt hurt, it absolutely does, and news flash, it's supposed to. I am 100% saying that if that combo kills you every time you encounter it, you have a L2P issue. They only change from last patch to this patch was a small damage component to RC. They are already nerfing it on PTS. Many players, myself included, have suggested they also look at toning down the range. Unblockable Undodgeable CCs have been around in this game for a long time. DKs have virtually the same skill, with a shorter range but also a built in immobilization, that actually is more powerful against a good player because it better attacks your stamina pool.
Stamwarden is only better than stam dk because passives and the burst... where does he get burst sub assault. Sorc has up to 5 different damage ticks when casting rune cage (curse, meteor, light attack, weapon glyph, and rune cage)
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
It's funny that "L2P" is somehow the answer to rune cage when you have players like Feng Rush complaining about how op rune cage is, because there is no counter. You can't "L2P" against it, because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
So, are you saying Feng Rush needs to L2P?
If the answer is yes, you are simply out of touch, and defending something because you use it knowing how ridiculous it is.
He started playing again? If you'd been on the forums, he and I almost always argue. He's like the worst guy to quote to me. He had a point on smart heal vs dumb damage but that's like the extent we agree on.
I actually talked to the man (when he played...) Have you?
I heard what he said...is there a point that you've talked to him? Because that doesn't change, at all, what he said about rune cage being ridiculous.
Thanks for your non-point though..
My point is, if you've talked to him, you'd know he's not the end all be all of ESO. He is just like the rest of us, and just because e has an opinion you share, it's not a point.
I suppose TLDR: my non point was in response to your non point3 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭the rune cage burst meta is horrible and offers 0 counterplay. stacking 30k damage with a undodgeable/unblockable cc is OP
fix runecage by making the sorcs not be able to shield if they have it slotted. why should you be able to one shot everyone if we cant do it back?
My solution for dealing with Sorcs (and all the rest of the massive damage you see nowadays from various classes/builds) was to run with 3 defensive sets and it works well...
Yes, you have to give up some killing power, but if you build your character right, you'll still be able to burst down most players, and the ones that you cant burst down probably cant burst you down either...
I know many don't like this approach, but this is how I adapted to the changes to the game...Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on July 16, 2018 11:57PMUnyeilding Bias
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
It's funny that "L2P" is somehow the answer to rune cage when you have players like Feng Rush complaining about how op rune cage is, because there is no counter. You can't "L2P" against it, because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
So, are you saying Feng Rush needs to L2P?
If the answer is yes, you are simply out of touch, and defending something because you use it knowing how ridiculous it is.
He started playing again? If you'd been on the forums, he and I almost always argue. He's like the worst guy to quote to me. He had a point on smart heal vs dumb damage but that's like the extent we agree on.
I actually talked to the man (when he played...) Have you?
I heard what he said...is there a point that you've talked to him? Because that doesn't change, at all, what he said about rune cage being ridiculous.
Thanks for your non-point though..
My point is, if you've talked to him, you'd know he's not the end all be all of ESO. He is just like the rest of us, and just because e has an opinion you share, it's not a point.
I suppose TLDR: my non point was in response to your non point
He doesn't have to be the end all be all of ESO.
My point is he's one of the best, if not THE BEST, PvP player on any platform, and he has a hard time dealing with rune cage. For the simple fact that there's no counter play to it...at all.
My point is if a player of his caliber has a hard time dealing with it, you can't just pass it off as it being solely a "L2P" issue.
It's a dismissive tactic because no one who uses it looks at it honestly. You want free, easy kills, and admitting it's op might lead to a change, so those who use it defend it so it doesn't go away. A few sorcs have come out saying it's ridiculous, but most won't.
Cheers to those honest players out there...wish there were more like you.
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
It's funny that "L2P" is somehow the answer to rune cage when you have players like Feng Rush complaining about how op rune cage is, because there is no counter. You can't "L2P" against it, because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
So, are you saying Feng Rush needs to L2P?
If the answer is yes, you are simply out of touch, and defending something because you use it knowing how ridiculous it is.
He started playing again? If you'd been on the forums, he and I almost always argue. He's like the worst guy to quote to me. He had a point on smart heal vs dumb damage but that's like the extent we agree on.
I actually talked to the man (when he played...) Have you?
I heard what he said...is there a point that you've talked to him? Because that doesn't change, at all, what he said about rune cage being ridiculous.
Thanks for your non-point though..
My point is, if you've talked to him, you'd know he's not the end all be all of ESO. He is just like the rest of us, and just because e has an opinion you share, it's not a point.
I suppose TLDR: my non point was in response to your non point
He doesn't have to be the end all be all of ESO.
My point is he's one of the best, if not THE BEST, PvP player on any platform, and he has a hard time dealing with rune cage. For the simple fact that there's no counter play to it...at all.
My point is if a player of his caliber has a hard time dealing with it, you can't just pass it off as it being solely a "L2P" issue.
It's a dismissive tactic because no one who uses it looks at it honestly. You want free, easy kills, and admitting it's op might lead to a change, so those who use it defend it so it doesn't go away. A few sorcs have come out saying it's ridiculous, but most won't.
Cheers to those honest players out there...wish there were more like you.
Tbf, and let me make clear I respect Feng, he has a habit of complaining about everything excessively.
I remember hiw he would Wrecking Blow spam a healing Templar and complain how broken OP temp was. Yeah. He demands nerfs very aggressively and for very long times, for everything other than stamsorc, of course.
In short, good player, cool dude, bad balancing discussion participant.9 -
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✭✭fix runecage by making the sorcs not be able to shield if they have it slotted. why should you be able to one shot everyone if we cant do it back?
Rune cage can't 1 shot by itself, it's a timed combination of rune cage with like 4 other skills and a damage increase enchantment.
Yeah, rune cage is OP but so is fossilize and incap(current patch, not pts). Fossilize is literally a melee range rune cage, and both of them are broken. ZOS really just needs to do a big rework of PvP skills in general.
Part of the problem is that when the canned response of "it's a timed combination of abilities" is used to denote it's like some sort of crazy mad skill to hit a couple buttons in the right sequence. It's not really... but the real problem is how many of them are uncounterable when the sequence is done.
A lot of mag sorcs have taken a whole lot of pride in the ability to press 1 then press 2 then press 3 then press 4. 3 year olds can count to 4 and being that the entire "timed rotation of true skill" isn't much more than pressing 1 2 3 4, well I'm pretty sure a 3 year old can "pwn" people on a magsorc.4 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »It's mages wrath/ implosion that are the problems. Skills like that have no place in pvp.
Implosion is the worst, a non skill execute. It's a passive. Redonkulous. Rune cage does need a rang decrease however. In my opinion that's all. Cheers.2 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
It's funny that "L2P" is somehow the answer to rune cage when you have players like Feng Rush complaining about how op rune cage is, because there is no counter. You can't "L2P" against it, because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
So, are you saying Feng Rush needs to L2P?
If the answer is yes, you are simply out of touch, and defending something because you use it knowing how ridiculous it is.
He started playing again? If you'd been on the forums, he and I almost always argue. He's like the worst guy to quote to me. He had a point on smart heal vs dumb damage but that's like the extent we agree on.
I actually talked to the man (when he played...) Have you?
I heard what he said...is there a point that you've talked to him? Because that doesn't change, at all, what he said about rune cage being ridiculous.
Thanks for your non-point though..
My point is, if you've talked to him, you'd know he's not the end all be all of ESO. He is just like the rest of us, and just because e has an opinion you share, it's not a point.
I suppose TLDR: my non point was in response to your non point
He doesn't have to be the end all be all of ESO.
My point is he's one of the best, if not THE BEST, PvP player on any platform, and he has a hard time dealing with rune cage. For the simple fact that there's no counter play to it...at all.
My point is if a player of his caliber has a hard time dealing with it, you can't just pass it off as it being solely a "L2P" issue.
It's a dismissive tactic because no one who uses it looks at it honestly. You want free, easy kills, and admitting it's op might lead to a change, so those who use it defend it so it doesn't go away. A few sorcs have come out saying it's ridiculous, but most won't.
Cheers to those honest players out there...wish there were more like you.
Fengrush the best PvPer on any platform? That's a new. Popular streamer maybe, but he is not really the best PvPer. He is decent, but not the best. He complains a lot for sure. Everyone with 1H/S is a tank/Templar to him. Only good he did with his complaints so far was to get Stamsorcs buffed in the past.rfennell_ESO wrote: »fix runecage by making the sorcs not be able to shield if they have it slotted. why should you be able to one shot everyone if we cant do it back?
Rune cage can't 1 shot by itself, it's a timed combination of rune cage with like 4 other skills and a damage increase enchantment.
Yeah, rune cage is OP but so is fossilize and incap(current patch, not pts). Fossilize is literally a melee range rune cage, and both of them are broken. ZOS really just needs to do a big rework of PvP skills in general.
Part of the problem is that when the canned response of "it's a timed combination of abilities" is used to denote it's like some sort of crazy mad skill to hit a couple buttons in the right sequence. It's not really... but the real problem is how many of them are uncounterable when the sequence is done.
A lot of mag sorcs have taken a whole lot of pride in the ability to press 1 then press 2 then press 3 then press 4. 3 year olds can count to 4 and being that the entire "timed rotation of true skill" isn't much more than pressing 1 2 3 4, well I'm pretty sure a 3 year old can "pwn" people on a magsorc.
You mean to tell us that we should never time our burst?
Lol have you even played anything other than a sorc? And yes if i have 18k and a sorc hits his curse frags execute with light attacks and weapon glyphs in between all while breaking the cc animation yes. Its broken as ***. Sorc main defense is absolute while stamina has many options to negate. On top of that its easy as *** to hit a full sorc combo. Melee has never been known for its ease of target acquisition (dizzy swing for example, major expedition is a lot harder for melee to deal with than mag because of the 7m range thing and lag). Lately ive been missing alot of light attacks even though the animation goes off (no damage) but my skill does....Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Your suggestions aren't realistic, but yeah magsorcs are insanely OP this patch, no other class is even close.
@Daus
Stamblade is still more dominant, they just arent quite as prevalent. Sorcs have a much lower floor because they are no doubt easier to play, but Stamblade has the higher ceiling for sure, be it dueling, open world, BGs, etc.
Not from my experience. I can usually guess outcome of a BGs match prior to it starting based team composition. Whichever team has the most magsorcs is typically the one that wins. It doesn't matter who's playing the class, that's the outcome the majority of the time.
@Daus
You dont play much in pre-mades then. A good pre-made will typically have 1 sorc and it has nothing to do with rune cage. You do it for steeling KBs with mages wrath. A team of 3-4 magic sorcs will get murdered by a properly built group, which usually has at least two stamina characters. In a pug frenzy, sure Mag Sorc has some advantages, and that is kinda my point. Mag sorc has a really low floor, but the ceiling is not as high as stamblade or frankly a few other classes.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Your suggestions aren't realistic, but yeah magsorcs are insanely OP this patch, no other class is even close.
@Daus
Stamblade is still more dominant, they just arent quite as prevalent. Sorcs have a much lower floor because they are no doubt easier to play, but Stamblade has the higher ceiling for sure, be it dueling, open world, BGs, etc.
@Swimguy
No. Sorcs have like 4 direct tools to counter stamblades and once they rune cage you under 80% your dead if they crit you once.
If that is your experience as a sNB, then sorry, L2P. If one sorc combo wrecks you with 80% health, something is going wrong on your end. Also, what direct tools are you talking about? Curse pulls you out of cloak. That's it. And if curse pulls you out of cloak, that combo is already ruined and the sorc needs to start over, assuming you dont just cloak again.
You can dodge/block the mages wrath which is part of the setup for the combo, and you can break free and doderoll the frags that is likely coming at you following the hard CC, and of course you can dodge the light attacks. Not only can a sNB roll dodge for days, they have their own source of evasion, and can cloak making the combo difficult to lineup in the first place. Point is, that combo should essentially never hit you all at once. stam NB is the hardest class to line up the sorc combo against. Second place is Stamplar because they have good pressure and a cheap purge.
I am not saying that a well executed sorc combo doesnt hurt, it absolutely does, and news flash, it's supposed to. I am 100% saying that if that combo kills you every time you encounter it, you have a L2P issue. They only change from last patch to this patch was a small damage component to RC. They are already nerfing it on PTS. Many players, myself included, have suggested they also look at toning down the range. Unblockable Undodgeable CCs have been around in this game for a long time. DKs have virtually the same skill, with a shorter range but also a built in immobilization, that actually is more powerful against a good player because it better attacks your stamina pool.
Stamwarden is only better than stam dk because passives and the burst... where does he get burst sub assault. Sorc has up to 5 different damage ticks when casting rune cage (curse, meteor, light attack, weapon glyph, and rune cage)
Make rune cage cost stam
18k health? Even a DK will kill you. And they don't even have an execute.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Honestly, the real problem with all of these CCs is that CC immunity doesn't work and only reliably works on break free. I will never understand why ZOS simply does not automatically give a CC'd target CC immunity whether the break free or not at the start of the CC? This will prevent double CC from happening and I don't think anyone would complain since you would still need to break free to avoid damage.
On live, even if you survive the sorc combo you usually get CC'd by rune cage and meteor immediately after the other. Let's not even talk about rune cage being used after timestop, and petrify behaves the same way.
All these unblockable and undodgeable CCs have been broken since they were introduced and should be looked at by the combat team, but you know they are like ghosts and are too busy "balancing" classes to realize that most of the imbalance is coming from stupid bugs in the game they don't care to address.
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Gprime31✭✭✭✭huschdeguddzje wrote: »Just make rune cage dogeable
Get rid of rune all together, bring back frag stun!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If you know an easy counter that will not compromise your build completely - just type it and share the knowledge
That’s hilarious. I’ll quote that whenever NBs defend their stuff.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭If you know an easy counter that will not compromise your build completely - just type it and share the knowledge
That’s hilarious. I’ll quote that whenever NBs defend their stuff.
Slot heals, detect pots, Radiant Magelight, and Purge?Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »
Yeah, and my newest favourite - "just run heavy armor" ...Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »
Yeah, and my newest favourite - "just run heavy armor" ...
If only heavy wasn't a thicker paper, it would have been a good proposal. But it still is a paper. LolImperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just zerg em down.
EZEdited by Thogard on July 17, 2018 8:05AMPC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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Why on earth would you assume a forum account would have anything to do with someone’s in-game skill, knowledge, or experience?Waffennacht wrote: »People whom joined this year asking for balance changes as if they know what has brought us here.
Maybe it's Ike an ESO growth thing.
I remember when I was an unskilled noob I wanted cloak nerfed, but then I L2P
Maybe we will see something similar to that here
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✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »For those typing L2P:
How to avoid/counter undodgeable, unblockable, instant spamable hard CC stun (other than get brief CC immunity from some other stun in a first place that is) ? ? ?Seriously. If you know an easy counter that will not compromise your build completely - just type it and share the knowledge.
OP are not asking to make runecage defendable. He is asking something, that isn't related to runecage at all:
"making the sorcs not be able to shield if they have it slotted"
That's why he is crybaby and must be LOLed hard, also as his thread.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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mursie✭✭✭✭✭no joke - god's honest truth. I have a vMA pet magsorc that i have used ONLY for vMA pve. I took it into BG's wearing the following gear:
1. Shadowrend 2 pc
2. Shacklebreaker
3. necropotence (jewels and two lightning staffs)
I kept both my pets, the heal twilight matriarch (which is useless in pvp btw) and the volatile familiar and the pet curse (not haunting). I kept hardened ward. I put rune cage, endless fury, force pulse, and elemental drain on the bars to round out the skills.
I have no idea how to play magsorc in pvp. absolutely no clue. I went into bg's and it sounded like a fresh bowl of Rice Krispies in there. I've never heard so much snap, crackle, pop in my life. 20 kills later, i'm on the floor dialing 911 because i've fallen on the floor, i'm rolling, and I can't get up. The laughing is to much.
I can't even begin to imagine what a properly specced, properly played, magsorc could actually do. Because my completely butchered pve spec was murdering people. Did I mention I don't even have meteor? literally running the stone atronach. lol.
just felt like I had to open with Ele drain and then LA-curse-LA-wrath-LA-pulse and rinse / repeat. The hardest part was having to remember to continually re-cast my dead pets. other than that... just sit back and snap/crackle/pop my way to victory.
PS - i had so much fun that I do have a slight itch to play this thing properly. To that end, does anyone have the skill bars and gear advice on how to actually play this thing the correct way?6
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