Jewelry Crafting Master Writs are worthless

kenjiblaster25 · July 2018

I had 3 epic today for 8 vouchers each - total shambles. For 8 vouchers they should be Blue. Purple should be 50 and gold should be a hand job

Rittings · July 2018

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

i've sold 5 of them... just pitched at 400 per voucher.

worthless?

no.

You've sold them to plonkers who didn't see they were JC writs... that is all.

Starshadw · July 2018

The issue is that the writs are not worth doing, given the current number of writ vouchers they give. I have six of these in my inventory now - four of them offer a paltry 9 vouchers for creating a purple piece of jewelry. Given the cost of the crit items? 9 vouchers is ridiculous. A legendary one in my inventory only offers 94 writs - again, the reward is not worth the money put into creating the item.

The same is true for the jewelry furniture items. It tells me that either.

1. ZOS didn't take the extra time to think through how they would need to change master writs and recipes with their intended drop rates

OR

2. At some point in the future, they intend to increase the drop rates to the same as for all other crafts.

I personally hope it's the latter. If it's not, then someone at ZOS needs to tweak the jewelry master writs to award enough vouchers to make them worth the investment for doing them and needs to change the furniture recipes so they don't require platings at all.

helediron · July 2018

I did yesterday a bunch of non-JC master writs. Writworthy showed totals, about 900 vouchers and costs about 300k. That means i get nearly 3000 vouchers from non-JC writs with a cost of one JC master writ giving 100 vouchers.

Platinum Ounce has crashed to 10g in one month (EU PC), and this means nobody does JC.

JC writs never give golden improvements, so they too are essentially worthless.

Rittings · July 2018

@helediron

Absolutely ON THE MONEY!! Doing the highest level writs should at least give chromium grains... but not even that!! This is a screw job by Zeminax.

redspecter23 · July 2018

Rittings wrote: »

@helediron

Absolutely ON THE MONEY!! Doing the highest level writs should at least give chromium grains... but not even that!! This is a screw job by Zeminax.

We're all getting trolled hard on this one. I'm waiting for ZOS to drop the punchline.

Obsidian3 · July 2018

I sell all my JC Master writs for 1k and people keep buying them. Think I need to up the price. How much can I get for these worthless things?

lientier · July 2018

I dont get that people are buying them...

redspecter23 · July 2018

lientier wrote: »

I dont get that people are buying them...

Some people will buy at a very low price in the hopes that they become worthwhile later on, leading to a massive profit eventually. Even though nobody in their sane minds will actually do these writs currently, they do have value for speculators.

disintegr8 · July 2018

I bet when they 'fix' Jewelry Crafting and the JC master writs, they'll put something in place to prevent those holding onto them from completing them - just like pre-JC jewelry could cot be deconned for mats.

Even the drop rate of chromium grains from refining raw mats is ridiculously low - I've refined at least 4000 raw mats and only have 9 chromium grains. So maybe if I refine another 40k raw mats, I may be close to being able to improve 1 piece of jewelry.

Rittings · July 2018

I think most are buying because they honestly don't see that they are JC writs... they just see the voucher value, think they are getting a bargain - and BOOM... sold. I say that because I sell my low ones for 1-2k easily.. but can't shift the 80+ voucher ones for even 10 gold... lol.

firedrgn · July 2018

Patch notes say the furture ones will be adjusted

firedrgn · July 2018

Your stuck with the current ones tho

Ashtaris · July 2018

firedrgn wrote: »

Your stuck with the current ones tho

Which makes all the current JC Master writs we will receive up to the next patch virtually worthless.

RANKK7 · July 2018

Still no news about this? I'm trying to check around in the Forum if ZOS said a freaking word, if these writs will be adjusted or they just introduced TRASH master writs and will leave it as that.

Feric51 · July 2018

RANKK7 wrote: »

Still no news about this? I'm trying to check around in the Forum if ZOS said a freaking word, if these writs will be adjusted or they just introduced TRASH master writs and will leave it as that.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

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Jewelry Crafting
Fixed an issue where the Jewelry Crafting Certification quest would accept any ring, rather than only accepting a ring you crafted.

Fixed an issue that was causing some of the Rich Seams in Jewelry Crafting Survey: Craglorn III to disappear when you got close to the resource nodes.

Added interaction text to Jewelry Crafting Writ Turn-In Crates.

Updated the text on the Jewelry Trait Master achievement for clarity.

Heavy Sacks will now have a chance to drop Jewelry Crafting Dust instead of Jewelry Crafting Ounces.

Dramatically improved the value of Artifact-quality Jewelry Crafting Master Writs, and significantly increased the value of Legendary-quality Jewelry Crafting Master Writs, in terms of their Writ Voucher payouts.
All Jewelry Crafting Writs received in the future will see this increased Voucher value; this change will not impact any Jewelry Crafting Master Writs already present in game.

@RANKK7 Current jewelry master writs will not be retroactively adjusted per PTS patch notes.

Crafts_Many_Boxes · July 2018

Even if the voucher value is multiplied tenfold, it still doesn't address the underlying issue with JC. The plating system is prohibitive to entry for all but the most obsessive grinders, nobody is crafting jewelry right now.

RANKK7 · July 2018

@Feric51 Thanks.

Rittings · July 2018

We need to be getting chromium grains from doing the highest level writs... THIS has to be introduced - because even tenfold the writ voucher value wouldn't bring it into line with other crafts without this being added.

Also... just make it a guarantee to get at least 1 chromium grain from deconstructing a gold jewelry piece... nothing more disheartening than grinding all week for a leaderboard place, only to find the deconstructed jewelry gives you nothing back.

redspecter23 · July 2018

Rittings wrote: »

We need to be getting chromium grains from doing the highest level writs... THIS has to be introduced - because even tenfold the writ voucher value wouldn't bring it into line with other crafts without this being added.

The hard part is convincing ZOS that this needs to be a thing. I want to see a larger sample size of the new master writs on PTS before applying judgement, but if it's simply a 4x multiplier, they are still not worth doing. It's an improvement, but it's not enough to bring these up to a good cost to reward ratio. With no gold mats from top tier writs as well as underwhelming master writs (still), all my toons will stay at tier 1 for jewelry writs.

I get that ZOS wants this to be a difficult grind, but they can't ignore system balance to accomplish that. We can still have a system that rewards appropriately and at the same time can be prohibitively grindy if ZOS wants that. What we have instead is prohibitive grind combined with a poorly thought out rewards system that encourages you NOT to do harder, higher level writs.

Runs · July 2018

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

Even if the voucher value is multiplied tenfold, it still doesn't address the underlying issue with JC. The plating system is prohibitive to entry for all but the most obsessive grinders, nobody is crafting jewelry right now.

So far it isn't... I have one master writ earned on PTS, epic 9 trait(Eternal Hunt) robust worth 36 vouchers. Comparing that to the closest I have on live epic 9 trait(Morkuldin) bloodthirsty worth 9 vouchers , it seems that at least on the epic side the multiple is 4. So, still trash.

I would love to see what they did with the legendary ones, but I don't think I will be logging PTS daily doing writs just to find out.