Crown Store Suggestion: Level 50 Token, Guild Line Token

shiningforce · June 2018

Just No!, Honestly i started in November of 2017 and within 3 months I had 7 lvl 50s, Just do the quests pacing yourself the first time around and then just run through it the next.

The game is definitely not pay to win, its pay to get housing items, clothing (not gear), name changes etc. Nobody pays to hit a higher level or gain more strength for pvp.

White wabbit · June 2018

Wow some people should just be banned from making threads as they come up with hair brained ideas and this is one of them, no this shouldn't be implemented

Gnozo · June 2018

Still no valid arguments why this shouldnt be implemented. "You are supposed to do the quests" guess what. I already did them. Would be endless boring to do everything again. Why not skip it cause i already did them?

When i create a character the game ask me to skip the Tutorial cause i already did it. Why not with the Rest of it? Want to skip undaunted cause you already did it? Yes. Want to skip mages Guild cause you already did it? Yes. Want to skip fighters Guild cause you already did it? Yes. Want to skip psijic cause you already did it? Yes. Want to jump to level 50 cause you have already 14 chars ans Level 50? Yes ffs.

If we get this in crown store, tell me exactly how your gaming experience would get hurt by it when other players would buy them.

Sheezabeast · June 2018

You may get a max lvl character but you /still/ gotta get the skill points for all your passives and weapon skills! Muahahahaha the grind will never end, NEVER!

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White wabbit · June 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

If you have 13 characters and you dont want to level another one just respec one. You can change almost everything else with a token so there is no need for a template.

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Elsterchen wrote: »

Why do I have to repeat myself every few month?

No.

... and in a few month its still: No.

Please stop asking.

edit: you will find plenty of reasons in all the older threads. Please use the forum search function.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

Give a valid reason to have one apart from the I'm too lazy to put the effort In as that is the only reason I can see for this , wont be any point to do any content at this rate ! Just be a token and hey presto, here's a suggestion spend more time on the game levelling up than trying to post suggestions that aren't needed

Gnozo · June 2018

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

If you have 13 characters and you dont want to level another one just respec one. You can change almost everything else with a token so there is no need for a template.

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Elsterchen wrote: »

Why do I have to repeat myself every few month?

No.

... and in a few month its still: No.

Please stop asking.

edit: you will find plenty of reasons in all the older threads. Please use the forum search function.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

Give a valid reason to have one apart from the I'm too lazy to put the effort In as that is the only reason I can see for this , wont be any point to do any content at this rate ! Just be a token and hey presto, here's a suggestion spend more time on the game levelling up than trying to post suggestions that aren't needed

Its not only i am too lazy. Its just boring and takes a lot of time. And i would rather spend my time in this game doing things that i enjoy instead of 30+ hours of boring grind.

And again, how would this token hurt your game experience? No one forced you to buy it. Tell me, i am really intrestet in it.

Beardimus · June 2018

There are plenty of reasons not to introduce this, all through this thread. You are just choosing to ignore them because you don't want to do something / save time. Sadly that's often the way on this forum.

Following that thought process why not let us buy max level crafting as decon is dull, or buy vMA weapons as you don't fancy solo trials, or buy 1 million gold as trading is dull, or buy AP as you don't like PvP but you want regional bags. The list could become endless I'm afraid. Without a ton of caveats to cover the use / misuse of it it would go down a slippery slope.

I get what you are saying, but for your problem in this instance a one time alliance switch token would be more apt and have less wider implications. Again tho which huge caveats as alliance switching is already a big enough issue in campaign..

White wabbit · June 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

If you have 13 characters and you dont want to level another one just respec one. You can change almost everything else with a token so there is no need for a template.

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Elsterchen wrote: »

Why do I have to repeat myself every few month?

No.

... and in a few month its still: No.

Please stop asking.

edit: you will find plenty of reasons in all the older threads. Please use the forum search function.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

Give a valid reason to have one apart from the I'm too lazy to put the effort In as that is the only reason I can see for this , wont be any point to do any content at this rate ! Just be a token and hey presto, here's a suggestion spend more time on the game levelling up than trying to post suggestions that aren't needed

Its not only i am too lazy. Its just boring and takes a lot of time. And i would rather spend my time in this game doing things that i enjoy instead of 30+ hours of boring grind.

And again, how would this token hurt your game experience? No one forced you to buy it. Tell me, i am really intrestet in it.

Because it's far easier now to level up than it was , don't like that people just want the quick and easy route to everything and I know there is things in here that people call p2w ie dlc etc , but we all still have to put the effort In to level that toon so because you have some disposable income you want to be able to bypass that mechanic, so all those that can't afford too go that avenue you want an advantage over

Gnozo · June 2018

Where do i get an advantage over someone who levels a character the old way? I am just faster .

And its not like buying vma weapons or trial gear from crown Store. Its just a token that will allow players who dont have 8 hours per day to skip the timeconsuming boring grind, they already did a few times, and enjoy the game when they can spare some time to play it. Whats so bad about it? I dont get it.

So again, whats so bad about this? How would this effect others players game experience in a Bad way when some players buy this token? Still no answer to this.

White wabbit · June 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Where do i get an advantage over someone who levels a character the old way? I am just faster .

And its not like buying vma weapons or trial gear from crown Store. Its just a token that will allow players who dont have 8 hours per day to skip the timeconsuming boring grind, they already did a few times, and enjoy the game when they can spare some time to play it. Whats so bad about it? I dont get it.

So again, whats so bad about this? How would this effect others players game experience in a Bad way when some players buy this token? Still no answer to this.

Don't need to put in 8 hours a day all we are doing is going round and round as all I see is I'm too lazy to put some effort into the game

Gnozo · June 2018

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Where do i get an advantage over someone who levels a character the old way? I am just faster .

And its not like buying vma weapons or trial gear from crown Store. Its just a token that will allow players who dont have 8 hours per day to skip the timeconsuming boring grind, they already did a few times, and enjoy the game when they can spare some time to play it. Whats so bad about it? I dont get it.

So again, whats so bad about this? How would this effect others players game experience in a Bad way when some players buy this token? Still no answer to this.

Don't need to put in 8 hours a day all we are doing is going round and round as all I see is I'm too lazy to put some effort into the game

Ignored 90% of my Post. Have +1 awesome.

Morgul667 · June 2018

That would be P2W

White wabbit · June 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Where do i get an advantage over someone who levels a character the old way? I am just faster .

And its not like buying vma weapons or trial gear from crown Store. Its just a token that will allow players who dont have 8 hours per day to skip the timeconsuming boring grind, they already did a few times, and enjoy the game when they can spare some time to play it. Whats so bad about it? I dont get it.

So again, whats so bad about this? How would this effect others players game experience in a Bad way when some players buy this token? Still no answer to this.

Don't need to put in 8 hours a day all we are doing is going round and round as all I see is I'm too lazy to put some effort into the game

Ignored 90% of my Post. Have +1 awesome.

And you seem to ignore anyone's post that doesn't agree in any way to your thinking ! So you too have a awesome

Gnozo · June 2018

Morgul667 wrote: »

That would be P2W

Some people already mentioned this but i dont see the p2w point here. Can you explain this any further?

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Where do i get an advantage over someone who levels a character the old way? I am just faster .

And its not like buying vma weapons or trial gear from crown Store. Its just a token that will allow players who dont have 8 hours per day to skip the timeconsuming boring grind, they already did a few times, and enjoy the game when they can spare some time to play it. Whats so bad about it? I dont get it.

So again, whats so bad about this? How would this effect others players game experience in a Bad way when some players buy this token? Still no answer to this.

Don't need to put in 8 hours a day all we are doing is going round and round as all I see is I'm too lazy to put some effort into the game

Ignored 90% of my Post. Have +1 awesome.

And you seem to ignore anyone's post that doesn't agree in any way to your thinking ! So you too have a awesome

Actually i try to discuss every point mentioned here and you just pick what you want here.

So simple question for you: In what type of way would this Token have a Bad effeckt on your gaming experience when other players that you dont even know would buy it?

White wabbit · June 2018

You know what zos just give it to him fed up with the care bears and lazy sods on here that want everything easy and just giving to them , put I do believe that this should come at a price of 150 Euros ! That's a fair price for as you said to skip the time consuming boring grind , and that way they might be able to use that money to sort the things that actually are needed in game

Gnozo · June 2018

White wabbit wrote: »

You know what zos just give it to him fed up with the care bears and lazy sods on here that want everything easy and just giving to them , put I do believe that this should come at a price of 150 Euros ! That's a fair price for as you said to skip the time consuming boring grind , and that way they might be able to use that money to sort the things that actually are needed in game

Still not answerd my question. And you say i am ignoring all the posts?

Also you can buy vampirism and werewolf skilline directly from crownstore so you can skip the Quest you know? Why are you not complaining about this?

White wabbit · June 2018

As I said going round and round I'm not going to see you point of view as I've not seen a valid reason for it as your just blinkered to your point of view, as for vamp and werewolf I think they were put in their as people at the time were struggling to either get infected in the zones or find people to bite them , I doubt anyone use's them now, I can't be bothered to spend another second going *** for Tat on a thread that really isn't needed as it will dumb the game even more , as I said let for put it in but make it costly , as you said to skip the time consuming grind as your gaming time is precious so surely any cost would be worth it

Nestor · June 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

So glad you said these two things, as people have been saying this would be P2W, and you don't know why. Well, these two statements are why it's pay to win.

So, you want to respec your Alliance, this is so you can quickly join the alliance that is on top to reap those benefits that is P2W. Besides, you could roll a character originally in any of the alliances, so no need for your Template there. Same with Classes, you just want to be able to roll into any class that is favored for balance. Again, P2W. And, you can roll any of all 5 classes to start with. If you can't make your Class choice work, that is on you anyway. And, the classes are more balanced than you think, you would know this if you fully explored the classes you are playing.

So, you not picking different alliances and you not picking different classes, do not state a reason as to why you should be handed these on a platter just because you don't want to to put in the effort. To put this back on you even more, you have not given one valid reason as to why you should be a special player that does not have to put in the effort to level a character you want.

Further, you really expect us to believe you have not rolled characters in other classes and or alliances when you already have 13? If you rolled 13 characters all in one class or alliance, that is on you.

You really need to go play a MOBA if you want pre-formed characters that you don't develop or level.

White wabbit · June 2018

Nestor wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

So glad you said these two things, as people have been saying this would be P2W, and you don't know why. Well, these two statements are why it's pay to win.

So, you want to respec your Alliance, this is so you can quickly join the alliance that is on top to reap those benefits that is P2W. Besides, you could roll a character originally in any of the alliances, so no need for your Template there. Same with Classes, you just want to be able to roll into any class that is favored for balance. Again, P2W. And, you can roll any of all 5 classes to start with. If you can't make your Class choice work, that is on you anyway. And, the classes are more balanced than you think, you would know this if you fully explored the classes you are playing.

So, you not picking different alliances and you not picking different classes, do not state a reason as to why you should be handed these on a platter just because you don't want to to put in the effort. To put this back on you even more, you have not given one valid reason as to why you should be a special player that does not have to put in the effort to level a character you want.

Further, you really expect us to believe you have not rolled characters in other classes and or alliances when you already have 13? If you rolled 13 characters all in one class or alliance, that is on you.

You really need to go play a MOBA if you want pre-formed characters that you don't develop or level.

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Gnozo · June 2018

Nestor wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Can i respect class? Can i respect Alliance? No.

Still no valid reason not to get a Level 50 Token or Guild Line Token. Give me one solid reason not to have this kind of token. Just one that i cant proof wrong or BS. I am waiting.

So glad you said these two things, as people have been saying this would be P2W, and you don't know why. Well, these two statements are why it's pay to win.

So, you want to respec your Alliance, this is so you can quickly join the alliance that is on top to reap those benefits that is P2W. Besides, you could roll a character originally in any of the alliances, so no need for your Template there. Same with Classes, you just want to be able to roll into any class that is favored for balance. Again, P2W. And, you can roll any of all 5 classes to start with. If you can't make your Class choice work, that is on you anyway. And, the classes are more balanced than you think, you would know this if you fully explored the classes you are playing.

So, you not picking different alliances and you not picking different classes, do not state a reason as to why you should be handed these on a platter just because you don't want to to put in the effort. To put this back on you even more, you have not given one valid reason as to why you should be a special player that does not have to put in the effort to level a character you want.

Further, you really expect us to believe you have not rolled characters in other classes and or alliances when you already have 13? If you rolled 13 characters all in one class or alliance, that is on you.

You really need to go play a MOBA if you want pre-formed characters that you don't develop or level.

You put a lot of things there that you just dont know and assumed from what?
I dont want to hopp from Alliance to Alliance. I dont care campaign. I just want to enjoy the game with my friends wich are spread around the Alliances.

I have in depth understanding of every class magicka/stamina and play them in a top tier pvp Level. What statement of myself gave you the feeling that i dont know That the classes are balanced and i only want to stay with the meta?

This is just not true. I just like to play all classes cause i enjoy all of them cause they all offer a different playstyle.

I will give you more Information. I startet this game in AD side . Doing quests, daylies, clearing map. Enjoying the pve side of this game for more then a year. I leveled some characters, like sorc dk, teamplar and NB. Then i startet to play pvp on Ad side ofc. I meet ppl we became friends and i played a lot. I also became friend with players from DC side. My AD friends enjoyed the zerg playstyle in this game while i was more focused on smal groups and some chilled gameplay instead of someone screaming Proxy 3 2 1.

Thats what my blue friends did. So i wanted to play with them. Starting to level all the classes i had on AD side on DC side. And it was boring. Doing all the things i already did over and over again. Hours i spend on this. I had a really hard time doing this. Now i want to play magickaNB in DC side. I already have a magickaNB in Ad side. And now i need to grind to lvl 50, mages Guild, fighters Guild, undaunted and psijic. I dont even want to Start cause it would mean hours of boring content for me that i already did plenty of times. That just kills the fun for me. I get frustrated, i want to play magblade on blue side but for this i need to do 30+ hours of grind where i wont enjoy the game. This token would save me a lot of time and i would enjoy the time i spend in this game instead of boring grind.

I know a lot of players that think same about this. What is so bad about it and p2w?

Soul_Marrow · June 2018

All welcome the death of the game.

Olav_the_Stout · June 2018

An alliance change token would be nice for this, that way you can go pvp with your friends without making a new character. I don't know how that would muck up Cadwell's Silver & Gold though.

Aarlur · June 2018

I would like a token which would play the game for me. It takes a lot of time, you know!

Honestly? Worst idea ever. If you dont want level up, the dont start a new character. If you want something than work for it. If people could just buy it, than whats the point to play? Many old players would choose this option, and many new players as well. So there would not be enough players in zones, so the newbies, whoes dont want to/cant pay for it could not team up anybody, so they would leave the game. This would lead to the death of the game.

Ri_Khan · June 2018

It was your choice to make 14 characters, no? And you don't want to have to actually play the game to level them now?

Just when you thought you've seen it all...

Viscous119 · June 2018

This is a mechanism for instant leveling in WoW and SWTOR. I guess they think that will happen in this game. Unfortunately, I don't think they will ever do that because it will be difficult to play a class starting at lvl50 without knowing the skills unless you are rolling the same class/race.

Zelos · July 2018

I for one would be all for it, sense no one actually realizes levels 1 to 50 is the intro into the game for new players, the entire grind for 1 to 50 is the demo because you have another 750 levels to go. Just becuz your level 50 doesnt mean you know how to play the game, what's wrong with learning at level 50? New people to the game beyond level 50 and even cp200 still dont know how to play it. At this point in the game level 1 to 50 is equivalent as level 1 to 10 was in 2014 in ESO. Its not pay to win, as even if you are level 50 in 1 minute how is that gonna make you automatically win? Its stupid and I bet the people that say this is a stupid idea complain the entire time with their friends leveling up another toon to 50, I cant stand people who dont even look at this from a logical view point and toss out reasons that border on the imbecilic.

Coolio_Wolfus · July 2018

They could offer an option to max a skill line you have already completed (Or level to 50 skipping level up rewards.) on another character for say 500cp, then it's cp lv grind vs skill lv grind and it shouldn't be instant completion that way as the cp cap would limit how often and the cp points available dropping and resetting cp bonuses would also be an effective deterrent, but still make it a viable option none the less.

Just my 2 gold on the subject.

Aelorin · July 2018

Hello OP,

I support your question. Yes let us be able to buy boosts. I would suggest that one would have one lvl 50 sorc, to be able to buy a lvl 50 sorc. Same with the skills. You need to have maxed it out once to be able to buy it.

Some people have little time and more money.
Some people have more time and little money.

I am confident they will add it one day.

Wow has it and it still lives.....

Charliff1966 · July 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Hello,

So i wanted to grind a new character and it was really hard for me to get the motivation for my 14th character. I only do pvp so i dont enjoy the leveling, grinding, mages Guild, psijik and undaunted grind. It really boring and takes a lot of time and i need to do things that i already did 13 times.

So i would like to have a token in crown store to get my toon to Level 50 with enough skillpoints, class skilllines maxed out, weapons skilllines maxed out and Maybe with a different token also all of the Guilds. Mages Guild,fighters Guild, undaunted and psijik.

This would save players a lot of time. For me more then 30+ hours for this completly boring undaunted grind.

And it could be locked in the crownstore until you already did the thing you want to buy on at least one character. So for example you need to have a lvl 50 character to buy the level 50 Token. Same with the guilds and so on.

I suggested this to the Support but they said i should come here. I personally know a lot of players who would love to get this. How about you?

Yup, i would pay big bigtime for the option.

tim99 · July 2018

remember, getting alliance rank 50 for pve archievments is much more boring grinding than all guilds combined.
what about a token for 10 alliance ranks. you can only buy it if you are already lvl 10, because then its up to 50 just always the same boring thing... sitting on some castles and shoot down a little bit while watching youtube videos on the 2nd screen.
A token for 10 alliance ranks and one for the emp would just saving my time... and i could skip that minigame (pvp) within the real game..

- and maybe one token for the raids... if i finish it in normal mode, i can buy a token to get it all... because its just training for the rest and saves the time of 12 (!!) people, how amazing is that....
- and imagine how much time a token for all the quest-content would save.
-and of course a token for all houses and all furnishing.... because i have that small starterhouse with a candle... the rest is just spending time and grinding... i need that token as well.

over the top, i know... but if you dont like any of these parts of the game, and just pvp (which is maybe 1/5 of the full content?) ... its strange that you still want to play this game. Maybe you could give the rest of the game a chance as well... and with good friends and fun in ts the oldest dungeon can make fun, even if you run it the 50th time, take some new players from your guild with you... the challenge will be higher and he will be thankful

)) Not stupid grinding... this is always boring, everywhere...

oh and back to topic... lol... skipping all this feels like bypassing the game at all. And its not fair to all others... which do this work for each char. Eso is a little bit of the route is the goal. Guess it will be more boring if you just buy 13 full maxed-out-everything-chars with money