Start deconstructing your Sloads

BohnT
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. We previously mentioned (maybe a few weeks back) we were going to take a look at Sloads. After doing some investigation, we'll be making some adjustments to this item set in the next update so it isn't quite as strong.

Please start crying in 3 2 1... NOW
  • DeadlyPhoenix
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    Lol
  • DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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    everyone knew this would come. the question is WHEN the update will be, if its in like 3 months or so then it will suck
  • Samadhi
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    Shoot, had not crafted one yet -- no joining in on the deconstruct party for me :(
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Shardan4968
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    I knew that flooding forums with complaints will cause nerf sooner or later so I didn't craft it, I can't afford changing build every single update.
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  • Juju_beans
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    People are going to run from one "meme" to the next. Just wait to see the forum post for the next "OP" set of gear.

    pvp would be so much more fun if you were fighting against players and not gear procs.
  • DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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    would love if you could take a look into duroks bane too...
  • Fiktius
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    I wouldn't deconstruct anything before seeing the actual changes first.
    I don't think that developers will make a set entirely useless, which is one of selling points which is supposed to attract more buyers to purchase Summerset expansion.I would recommend waiting and see how it will turn out to be.
    However if someone was considering crafting Sload set, perhaps it would be a great moment to reconsider and wait till the next update arrives.
    (Now assuming that the next update is really the next following and not the actual balance update coming a few months later.)
    Edited by Fiktius on June 21, 2018 3:38PM
  • SkillzMFG
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    God damn, just when I created it for my alt...Gotta say I'll miss those rage PMs :D
  • DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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    Fiktius wrote: »
    I wouldn't deconstruct anything before seeing the actual changes first.
    I don't think that developers will make a set entirely useless, which is one of selling points which is supposed to attract more buyers to purchase Summerset expansion.I would recommend waiting and see how it will turn out to be.
    However if someone was considering crafting Sload set, perhaps it would be a great moment to reconsider and wait till the next update arrives.
    (Now assuming that the next update is really the next following and not the actual balance update coming a few months later.)

    EVERYTIME zos nerfed something they made it totally useless (like stygian :( )
  • The_Red_Viper
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    Shame they take the crappy suggestions because the ignorant masses cry the loudest. Ever wonder why Blizzard, and WoW specifically, has held the most active players since release? Because they don't implement every change the community wants, even if they flood the forums. If everyone got what they wanted the game would end up being a circus.

    They should have looked at balancing classes better instead of nerfing a set that will barely change anything. Bad players aren't going to suddenly become good just because a set is nerfed.
    Edited by The_Red_Viper on June 21, 2018 3:43PM
  • zyk
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    They should have looked at balancing classes better instead of nerfing a set that will barely change anything. Bad players aren't going to suddenly become good just because a set is nerfed.

    I don't know a single good player who likes this set. Some use it because they'll always use what's strongest, but I haven't seen anyone admit to actually liking it.

    IMO, this was all planned. They needed an OP crafted set to drive excitement for Jewelry Crafting. Only a complete idiot wouldn't be able to see the ways in which this set would negatively impact gameplay. *

    * most players
    Edited by zyk on June 21, 2018 3:50PM
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    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Fang_of_Lorkhaj
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    Omg now people have to learn to be good again
  • TequilaFire
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    Makes no difference to me, somehow I still haven't seen Sload's on a recap and I die plenty from mostly OP Sorc execute cheese.
    Edited by TequilaFire on June 21, 2018 3:55PM
  • Mureel
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Thanks for the feedback, everyone. We previously mentioned (maybe a few weeks back) we were going to take a look at Sloads. After doing some investigation, we'll be making some adjustments to this item set in the next update so it isn't quite as strong.

    Please start crying in 3 2 1... NOW

    That's hilolrious given that the only ones crying, were the ones who were such good players that they couldn't handle it! xD

    No one who said it was 'Okay' made anywhere near the stink that some of y'all have.

    #truestory
  • NTclaymore
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    So if enough people or actully a few people because the amount of people on the forums aint that many can band together we can get any set nerfed? Any ideas for the next one? im thinking something abit pointless.. ermm.. Julianos? yes. Its overpreforming. Plz nerf.
    He spoke, the son of Padomay, and nodded his head with the dark brows
    and the imortally anointed hair of the great god
    swept from his divine head, and all Mundus was shaken.
  • Mureel
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    Fiktius wrote: »
    I wouldn't deconstruct anything before seeing the actual changes first.
    I don't think that developers will make a set entirely useless, which is one of selling points which is supposed to attract more buyers to purchase Summerset expansion.I would recommend waiting and see how it will turn out to be.
    However if someone was considering crafting Sload set, perhaps it would be a great moment to reconsider and wait till the next update arrives.
    (Now assuming that the next update is really the next following and not the actual balance update coming a few months later.)

    This isn't correct. ZOS has nerfed badly or otherwise made irrelevant *Most* sets.
  • BohnT
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    NTclaymore wrote: »
    So if enough people or actully a few people because the amount of people on the forums aint that many can band together we can get any set nerfed? Any ideas for the next one? im thinking something abit pointless.. ermm.. Julianos? yes. Its overpreforming. Plz nerf.

    There is a difference between a set that's not even Bis and a completely overperfoming set
  • OnlyOnThursday
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    I don't understand this. As someone who is in No CP BGs constantly, and been both on the receiving end, and giving of Sload's. IT IS NOT OVER POWERED.

    It has a reasonable cooldown, and in a fight with multiple enemies you can only use it on one of them before the scrimmage is over.

    What it does do, is give people who don't want to make pvp tanks, a reasonable way to actually do some damage to the 50k, shielded unkillable statues that are in these battles.

    I can't tell you how many times I have watched 8+ people hit each other over and over, and none of the health bars even go down

    Being in a flag game, or land grab, and trying to attack 1 healer and 3 tanks is a total joke. They can't hurt you, sure, but they can't die at all. Unless you can CC the healer, and hit the tank types with oblivion damage, you're completely stuck.

    I haven't seen anything more than a minor improvement in regular pvp encounters with this set on, where it shines is levelling the playing field against these ridiculous builds that make the BGs a miserable grind instead of an enjoyable fight.

    My advice to the folks that get so angry about people wearing sloads that they feel the need to spam other pvp participants whispers with hate speech, and fill these forums with nasty comments, is simply this:

    Get better at your own build, and maybe you wont feel so personally offended by someone elses.
  • NTclaymore
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    BohnT wrote: »
    NTclaymore wrote: »
    So if enough people or actully a few people because the amount of people on the forums aint that many can band together we can get any set nerfed? Any ideas for the next one? im thinking something abit pointless.. ermm.. Julianos? yes. Its overpreforming. Plz nerf.

    There is a difference between a set that's not even Bis and a completely overperfoming set

    If we should nerf "BiS" or flavour of the month. then we might aswell pick one set every month and nerf it. then move on to the next one.
    He spoke, the son of Padomay, and nodded his head with the dark brows
    and the imortally anointed hair of the great god
    swept from his divine head, and all Mundus was shaken.
  • chris211
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Thanks for the feedback, everyone. We previously mentioned (maybe a few weeks back) we were going to take a look at Sloads. After doing some investigation, we'll be making some adjustments to this item set in the next update so it isn't quite as strong.

    Please start crying in 3 2 1... NOW

    woooooooooooooo
  • Altercator
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    WOMP WOMP
  • DDuke
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    Better thread title: "Start practicing non-Sload gameplay" :trollface:

    -Signed, happy NB. Maybe I can finally cloak again...
    Edited by DDuke on June 21, 2018 4:08PM
  • Mureel
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    Omg now people have to learn to be good again

    Lol or people who think they're good should actually learn to be good. Natch.
  • Jameliel
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    Can anyone post screenshots of these Sload's death recaps? I die all day in PvP, and have still only seen Sload's deal the death blow once. Even at that, it was low damage, and I was hit by a ton of other skills/damage first. I hardly see it pop up at all anywhere on death recaps. I don't know about BG's since I'm mostly in Cyrodiil. From my experience, it doesn't have much effect. I do see plenty of people complaining about it there and everywhere. Please post screenshots.
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    BohnT wrote: »
    NTclaymore wrote: »
    So if enough people or actully a few people because the amount of people on the forums aint that many can band together we can get any set nerfed? Any ideas for the next one? im thinking something abit pointless.. ermm.. Julianos? yes. Its overpreforming. Plz nerf.

    There is a difference between a set that's not even Bis and a completely overperfoming set

    Well, julianos is surprisingly close to BiS for PvE when doing some math and tests :trollface:

    But for real, it is
  • pieratsos
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    Shame they take the crappy suggestions because the ignorant masses cry the loudest. Ever wonder why Blizzard, and WoW specifically, has held the most active players since release? Because they don't implement every change the community wants, even if they flood the forums. If everyone got what they wanted the game would end up being a circus.

    They should have looked at balancing classes better instead of nerfing a set that will barely change anything. Bad players aren't going to suddenly become good just because a set is nerfed.

    Probably because its subscription based so at least they give a damn about gameplay and performance. Aka they dont introduce a new reskined sloads every 3 months just to milk money out of it at the expense of gameplay and performance.
    Edited by pieratsos on June 21, 2018 4:20PM
  • Feanor
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    Don’t be too rash in conclusions. Adjustment is an ambiguous thing. They adjusted resource cost poisons too once - from 30% to 60%. So maybe the set just gets double the damage over half the time because Sorc QQ is really en vogue these days.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Preyfar
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    Fiktius wrote: »
    I wouldn't deconstruct anything before seeing the actual changes first.
    I don't think that developers will make a set entirely useless, which is one of selling points which is supposed to attract more buyers to purchase Summerset expansion.I would recommend waiting and see how it will turn out to be.
    However if someone was considering crafting Sload set, perhaps it would be a great moment to reconsider and wait till the next update arrives.
    (Now assuming that the next update is really the next following and not the actual balance update coming a few months later.)

    EVERYTIME zos nerfed something they made it totally useless (like stygian :( )
    Almost every single set in the game is near useless, and most of the crafted sets are of limited use. May as well just add Sloads to that list.

    Although I think if they just changed he damage to physical it wouldn't be all that bad.
  • TequilaFire
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    Just make Sload's and shields not stack everybody is happy, well except Sorcs. lol
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