Console vs PC: Real In Game Differences

Malamar1229 · June 2018

-console Tbags every time, and everyone does it
-console zergs harder than PC
-i think console has a larger kid population (xbox at least)
-economy is better due to lack of addons
-seems to be a lot more magick sorcs

mb10 · June 2018

I had sloads and took it off.
Incredibly overrated set imo

Sleep724 · June 2018

I believe on pc you can animation cancel with a bash and not interrupt your Stam Regen.

On console it’s treated as a partial block so it WILL interrupt your stam regen.

Oakclaw · June 2018

I can’t speak for PVP but I can say that PVE is way more challenging on console. This is coming from someone who’s played MMOS for nearly 20 years on PC - including ESO at launch and well beyond. I started playing on the PS4 about a year ago.

You can argue that addons don’t make a difference but they absolutely do. Also the mouse and keyboard give you a level of control and precision that you just can’t achieve on console. If that isn’t enough, you have a stupid amount of graphical and input lag that you’re almost constantly dealing with on console.

There’s a huge difference in my opinion.

OGLezard · June 2018

Cryptical wrote: »

SpiderCultist wrote: »

Question to console players: playing ESO with a pad must be a total pain in the... or is there any way to plug a keyboard and a mouse?

I could give it a shot on ps4 but its pad holds me back

Xbox - a keyboard but it’s used for text input. If you want to click on something in the world, you aim the camera at it.

Pc people tend to move in straight lines, like they are moving along a grid. When I see them moving in a curve it’s always small, only a short distance. They cannot circle. If zeni made a bridge for pc and console to pvp each other, I expect the dynamic movement of the console players to be a terrible frustration to the pc peeps.

Also, it seems to me that the game itself runs faster on console. I watch some pc vids and the bosses seem to act and complete their moves more slowly than I experience on Xbox.

Ummm what lol to all of that......

Edit: to clarify; it absolutely does not run better on consoles, you must be watching really bad videos.

Also, only the terrabads run in straightlines and dont circle opponents let alone zig zag to throw off the player/crosshair.

I absolutely believe if pc could pvp consoles, yea rhe bads would be thrown for a loop, but the ones who are not terrible, that would be a different story.

I have seen some amazing players strafe in circles around people and just melt them because they derped.

It is actually extremely easy to do on pc, which I always wondered why alot of players never do

Diminish · June 2018

LiquidPony wrote: »

Console players also mostly use builds created by PC players and strats perfected by PC players.

Yeah, I can see this... because you guys have combat metrics and other hand-holding add-ons that babysit everything you do. There really is no argument to this. In the end, with 2 identical builds, there is still a skill gap between PC and Console due to this fact.

By the way, are you "PC Master Race" people the ones that posted the 2 hand/bow and bow/bow 22k health tank build that doesn't slot a taunt that I see plaguing console all the time, lol?

OGLezard · June 2018

Diminish wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Console players also mostly use builds created by PC players and strats perfected by PC players.

Yeah, I can see this... because you guys have combat metrics and other hand-holding add-ons that babysit everything you do. There really is no argument to this. In the end, with 2 identical builds, there is still a skill gap between PC and Console due to this fact.

By the way, are you "PC Master Race" people the ones that posted the 2 hand/bow and bow/bow 22k health tank build that doesn't slot a taunt that I see plaguing console all the time, lol?

Nope, all systems that run eso have derptards

starkerealm · June 2018

Azyle1 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Azyle1 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Also don't forget how much easier PvE is with add-ons that give combat alerts telling you when to dodge, block etc. and track your dots for you...

There is a reason all raiding guilds in WoW made you get Deadly Boss Mods.

I am just waiting for some PC elitist to try and refute this point, because it isn't possible to do so.

PC players have it much easier. I'd argue because of this, console players are better.

Totally agree with you @Azyle1

Any achievement gotten without add-ons is easily more impressive than getting it with add-ons. Not only that but PC players have better frame-rate too. They have QoL add-ons AND add-ons that provide training wheels for PvE content. When i was watching videos to begin progressing vAS i couldn't believe my eyes when some guy had Llothis's cone appear and the add-on told him to just stand and block, didn't have to look for the green chest or anything. It's honestly a joke how much easier they have it.

At the same time, if I played on PC, I would totally use them, if I am going to be honest and fair.

Yeah, I held off on raid notifier for a long time, but it is incredibly useful for players that have a hard time keeping track of the bosses.

Abysswarrior45 · June 2018

PS4 NA, sloads is on every recap of mine sometimes multiple sloads from different people. Zaan is very much a thing on here too, especially in duels and its no less cheap than sloads. I've had a recap of 5 different sload procs with each one from a different person. Timestop is everywhere too so you got one thing right.

MrDenimChicken · June 2018

inDeviation wrote: »

you guys say console players are better than PC Master Race players........

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I play console so I don't ignore my GF when I play ESO.

PC master race players are Master Losers.

Casterial · June 2018

Azyle1 wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

inDeviation wrote: »

you guys say console players are better than PC Master Race players........

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Pretty much everyone agrees that you have better tools.

I’d love to hear a counter argument as to why you’d assume you had better overall players.

But if he uses more expensive golf clubs, he must be better at golf than you. Obviously!!

That is a terrible argument.

Console = Regular golf clubs

PC = Golf Clubs that show you where to hit the ball, how hard, and where it will land.

Why do we argue over this stuff, Console we beta test for you and make sure some of your stuff works. Be happy the PC is here to make builds, stream, and bug report for you...

OGLezard · June 2018

MrDenimChicken wrote: »

inDeviation wrote: »

you guys say console players are better than PC Master Race players........

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I play console so I don't ignore my GF when I play ESO.

PC master race players are Master Losers.

My gf plays with me, both on pc gaming rigs, same guilds, same pvp group, does that mean we are losers?

Man, must suck for us I guess

OGLezard · June 2018

MrDenimChicken wrote: »

inDeviation wrote: »

you guys say console players are better than PC Master Race players........

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I play console so I don't ignore my GF when I play ESO.

PC master race players are Master Losers.

My gf plays with me, both of us on pc gaming rigs, same guilds, same pvp group, does that mean we are losers?

Man, must suck for us I guess

MLGProPlayer · June 2018

Azyle1 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Also don't forget how much easier PvE is with add-ons that give combat alerts telling you when to dodge, block etc. and track your dots for you...

There is a reason all raiding guilds in WoW made you get Deadly Boss Mods.

I am just waiting for some PC elitist to try and refute this point, because it isn't possible to do so.

PC players have it much easier. I'd argue because of this, console players are better.

Console players are better at playing the game inefficiently. Correct.

mocap · June 2018

weird trade center for consoles (i don't see any items there), no addons, no PTS.

Tasear · June 2018

Do any of classes play differently? What's it like being a pet Sorc console? What are most popular classes for tanking healing and dps?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Do any of classes play differently? What's it like being a pet Sorc console? What are most popular classes for tanking healing and dps?

I can only talk about PVP and I only play a Magplar but I’ve played a Magplar on both PC and console. The largest main difference from a play standpoint on my Magplar is that on console I can get away with a “PVE build” in PVP - I prefer it by a significant margin - but on PC I wouldn’t set foot in Cyrodiil without Impen.

I believe the most popular DPS class varies by update ... right now it seems pretty evenly spread but it took me much longer this week to fill up my kill 20 NBs quest and only a few minutes to fill up my kill 20 Templars so that might be a good indication. In some past patches it would take forever to even find 20 Templars. I think the current meta leans more heavily to magic players but certainly not to the degree of summer ‘16 where 80% of the toons where hurricane using stam Sorcs.

Pet Sorcs can be very powerful or useless depending on the user, like most classes. I don’t believe their is a way to target your pets however which unto itself is a major gameplay difference.

One final point ... I knew we would inevitably get console vs PC bashing in this thread, but please remember that’s not really the point. Both systems have great and awful players, and it’s plainly obvious that a top of the line PC is a more powerful machine that comes with a higher ceiling due to add ons but likely a lower floor (some folks allow add ons to carry them) but, once again, that’s also not the point. The point of this thread is to point out that on system A I can do X effectively but it might not work on system B because of Y.

For example, I use Illambris in PVP on console to a ridiculously effective degree when it’s combined with things like force pulse or the triple fire ball, but it probably would not work on PC because it’s much easier to identify and leave red areas on PC due to screen resolution and add ons.

Or, due to console lag I’m currently running a toon with a destro-resto set up because as long as I’m getting even 1 frame per second at least holding heavy attack will hit someone even if none of my skills are firing or bar swap stops working. These are real life issues on console that can either be dealt with or ignored in favor of a more typical build that works great in perfect conditions but will leave you dead the moment 50 people are on screen at once.

LordSemaj · June 2018

Due to the responsiveness of PC controls and the precision of mouse aim, PC players inherently have more control over their characters, which in PVE settings leads developers to overtune the content for greater difficulty. Meanwhile, console gamers are so used to their games being faceroll easy that they become shocked beyond belief when they try to play the exact same game on PC and blame the controls. Meanwhile, PC players moving over to the console version notice the worse mob AI and lower stress involved during combat given the toothless content and simply applying their advanced tactics for overcoming hyper aggressive deadly bosses leads to an effortless console experience.

That's why there's this great divide between PC and console players. Once you've played a game on PC difficulty, playing on console is boring.

The_Red_Viper · June 2018

Azyle1 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Also don't forget how much easier PvE is with add-ons that give combat alerts telling you when to dodge, block etc. and track your dots for you...

There is a reason all raiding guilds in WoW made you get Deadly Boss Mods.

I am just waiting for some PC elitist to try and refute this point, because it isn't possible to do so.

PC players have it much easier. I'd argue because of this, console players are better.

I'd argue PC players are better because they can clearly see what they are doing wrong with all the information ESO on PC can output via add-ons, and as a result they can improve in better ways.

xirub17_ESO · June 2018

I would say, let PS4/Xbox players cross play Cyrodiil with PC players, and see who wins! xD
Anyways, I grew bored with there never being any red players being on Vivec, PS4/NA, so I mostly PvE anymore.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

xirub17_ESO wrote: »

I would say, let PS4/Xbox players cross play Cyrodiil with PC players, and see who wins! xD
Anyways, I grew bored with there never being any red players being on Vivec, PS4/NA, so I mostly PvE anymore.

XBox Vivek has a lot of reds. Haha. I’m with ya man. Let’s cross it up!

Mettaricana · June 2018

Ps4 sloads selling like hot cakes so people seem to be hunting crafters down.

So far all my guilds trash talkin the psijic skills alot calling em garbage

xirub17_ESO · June 2018

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

xirub17_ESO wrote: »

I would say, let PS4/Xbox players cross play Cyrodiil with PC players, and see who wins! xD
Anyways, I grew bored with there never being any red players being on Vivec, PS4/NA, so I mostly PvE anymore.

XBox Vivek has a lot of reds. Haha. I’m with ya man. Let’s cross it up!

Yeah, PS4/NA is nothing but Yellows on mostly all servers. 3 bars, all day, all night it seems.

Nifty2g · June 2018

The whole basis of this thread is hilarious.

There has been 1 comment where someone laughed at console, everything else is just console players saying how they have it harder so they must be better than PC players. And then call PC players elitists lol

Here's something to think about, no matter the player an addon does not make you better or worse, if a player is not that great, they're not going to be that great. An addon telling them how to do a mechanic is not going to make that player understand the game and be one of the best players in one of the best guilds. That is not how it works. You're trying to lump a whole category of PC players with another category of PC players and it simply does not work like that. Much like console if you hand a player some addons on console who is not so great, it's not exactly going to make them better. It's the player not the addon regardless of what platform you play on.

However some addons are absolutely fantastic that give console the information they wouldn't have had otherwise and allow complex theorycrafting to be a thing and allow players to find bugs within skills based on the damage they do and all that.

What a close minded thread this is.

swirve · June 2018

PC - like driving an automatic car
Console - like driving a manual with restrictions

Apache_Kid · June 2018

Nifty2g wrote: »

The whole basis of this thread is hilarious.

There has been 1 comment where someone laughed at console, everything else is just console players saying how they have it harder so they must be better than PC players. And then call PC players elitists lol

Here's something to think about, no matter the player an addon does not make you better or worse, if a player is not that great, they're not going to be that great. An addon telling them how to do a mechanic is not going to make that player understand the game and be one of the best players in one of the best guilds. That is not how it works. You're trying to lump a whole category of PC players with another category of PC players and it simply does not work like that. Much like console if you hand a player some addons on console who is not so great, it's not exactly going to make them better. It's the player not the addon regardless of what platform you play on.

However some addons are absolutely fantastic that give console the information they wouldn't have had otherwise and allow complex theorycrafting to be a thing and allow players to find bugs within skills based on the damage they do and all that.

What a close minded thread this is.

Add-ons are a major crutch. No one is saying that they will turn a bad player into a good player. But knowing when a mechanic is incoming due to an add-on gives you a much better chance to deal with that mechanic and not die. To argue that having a tell for a mechanic even when you are not looking at the source of the mechanic is a crutch is really dumb.

The point of this thread is that Add-ons give good players that much more of an edge. Tracking dots allows you to get more dps because you never let them fall off. We have to time things like WoE and Endless hail in our heads. You can be not looking at the boss and your add-ons will tell you to block or dodge mechanics. In vAS + i can completely turn and DPS a protector and the addon will tell me if Llothis is about to hit me with the poison cone. Don't even need to see the mini boss.

Also, when we do vAS on console, I literally have to have a stopwatch out that times storm the heavens every 35 seconds. Which means I have to take my eyes off of my screen to look at my stop watch and hit "lap" every 35 seconds and call it out to the group. Do you think that lowers my DPS? You bet it does. You're just mad because playing without add-ons takes more skill. Even having an updated UI for your resource bars is a huge buff. If it wasn't how come I have never seen a video of an end-game player on PC with the default resource bar set up?

@Nifty2g

TequilaFire · June 2018

Well then those of us that play on both platforms must be uber good!

Dasovaruilos · June 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

I'm not console but i believe the in game communication is far superior to PC as everyone has voip by default, yes that opens a can of worms but as a whole just day to day working together i'd say that is far better than silent PC...

Add ons on PC are a double edged sword yes they make the game easier and better but when it updates addons can really screw the game up..

That has been said but it really is a HUGE, HUGE difference.

I started doing pledges now on PC and it is really weird to do it with randoms without audio communication.

On Xbox 80% of the time everyone will be on with voice when you go do a pledge, even if only listening.

Definitely another big difference between the two.

Revelzdevelz · June 2018

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Also don't forget how much easier PvE is with add-ons that give combat alerts telling you when to dodge, block etc. and track your dots for you...

console has ui options for those

ROFL. wow

Hammy01 · June 2018

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

CalmFury wrote: »

Synergies and Ultimate with one button also makes a huge difference, specially synergies

I agree with this. Sometimes in situations where lag is present, if I snap the shoulder buttons for my Ult, if my timing is off, I do not get the Ult to come out. Or the enemy moves away right as I press it and miss.

Or sometimes your finger placement is just a little to high on the controller and you accidentally use your ultimate.