Are you OK with the upcoming jewelry craft grind?

lihentian · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

swifty3174 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

3rd, they are releasing true elite gear which are superior to normal gold equipment that can only be acquire through veteran hard trial. so crafting and normal gold equipment are now inferior

Please stop spreading misinformation. The only "true elite gear" that can be acquired through Veteran Hardmode Cloudrest will be 'Perfected' versions of gear that already drops in there, which offers only marginal increases in set bonuses. This is exactly the same as the 'Regular' and 'Perfected' drops in Asylum Sanctorium.

Please correct me if am wrong,

1st, they are introducing a serious of gear that are superior to normal version.
2nd, these gear can only be acquire through veteran hard mode

so.. unless you want to argue that these "perfected" gear are on par with their normal version, or you want to argue that they will stop introducing these veteran hard gear in the future. Please do explain how am i spreading misinformation?

greylox · May 2018

I don't care

Tbh I prob won't bother with it much. I will want my rings etc gold eventually but I don't use crafted sets at all and the other traits don't interest me so I'm pretty indifferent.

SugaComa · May 2018

No idea until I experience it for my self

ssorgatem · May 2018

No, this is a Bit much

lihentian wrote: »

swifty3174 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

3rd, they are releasing true elite gear which are superior to normal gold equipment that can only be acquire through veteran hard trial. so crafting and normal gold equipment are now inferior

Please stop spreading misinformation. The only "true elite gear" that can be acquired through Veteran Hardmode Cloudrest will be 'Perfected' versions of gear that already drops in there, which offers only marginal increases in set bonuses. This is exactly the same as the 'Regular' and 'Perfected' drops in Asylum Sanctorium.

Please correct me if am wrong,

1st, they are introducing a serious of gear that are superior to normal version.
2nd, these gear can only be acquire through veteran hard mode

so.. unless you want to argue that these "perfected" gear are on par with their normal version, or you want to argue that they will stop introducing these veteran hard gear in the future. Please do explain how am i spreading misinformation?

1st: No; just imperfect and perfected versions of the trial sets. The difference is only in the set bonus. It's not a different tier of gear.

2nd: AFAIK, it'd be acquired in veteran, no need for hardmode.

But these are nothing new. You have exactly the same for the Asylum weapons: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Asylum+Weapons

lihentian · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

ssorgatem wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

swifty3174 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

3rd, they are releasing true elite gear which are superior to normal gold equipment that can only be acquire through veteran hard trial. so crafting and normal gold equipment are now inferior

Please stop spreading misinformation. The only "true elite gear" that can be acquired through Veteran Hardmode Cloudrest will be 'Perfected' versions of gear that already drops in there, which offers only marginal increases in set bonuses. This is exactly the same as the 'Regular' and 'Perfected' drops in Asylum Sanctorium.

Please correct me if am wrong,

1st, they are introducing a serious of gear that are superior to normal version.
2nd, these gear can only be acquire through veteran hard mode

so.. unless you want to argue that these "perfected" gear are on par with their normal version, or you want to argue that they will stop introducing these veteran hard gear in the future. Please do explain how am i spreading misinformation?

1st: No; just imperfect and perfected versions of the trial sets. The difference is only in the set bonus. It's not a different tier of gear.

2nd: AFAIK, it'd be acquired in veteran, no need for hardmode.

But these are nothing new. You have exactly the same for the Asylum weapons: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Asylum+Weapons

1st a superior version of gear set is not a different tier? what would you consider as a different tier then? do you want them to have different color? i always thought it is the stats that make them stand out.. better set bonus = more stats.

2nd no idea, they talk about on eso live. am not on pts so haven't test it myself. either way it is a set of more prestige equipment then gold gear. gold gear are very common already, gold vendor often have them for sale.

shootatme80 · May 2018

I don't care

I have no problem working for my rewards. A year from now I'll probably have more than enough of everything I need just like everything else.

Vanthras79 · May 2018

No, this is a Bit much

I don't think we really have much of a choice.

Katahdin · May 2018

No, this is a Bit much

Seems a little over the top

VonNelson · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

This grind is going to get so dull

AlnilamE · May 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

I'm currently trying to get to level 500 on a craft so I can help out with the guild hall. Let me tell you about grind.

I will just keep playing as I'm playing, just now I'll be able to deconstruct jewelry, do jewelry crafting writs for mats, research traits again and eventually improve jewelry that I'm using.

And after a while I'll be sitting on 500+ gold improvers just like with every other craft.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2018

No, this is a Bit much

My issue is the research part of it.
I’m not opposed to having to work for it but to me.....it feels as if the crown store items were added to justify the long research requirement

Cpt_Teemo · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

To lock crafting behind a paid wall, just shows how greedy it became, no game should ever lock crafting behind a pay wall, WoW learned that right away

AlnilamE · May 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

My issue is the research part of it.
I’m not opposed to having to work for it but to me.....it feels as if the crown store items were added to justify the long research requirement

Wait. Is the research requiement not the same as with other crafts? What are the times?

Zordrage · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

To lock crafting behind a paid wall, just shows how greedy it became, no game should ever lock crafting behind a pay wall, WoW learned that right away

The only reason they locked Jewel crafting behind Summerset is because summerset bassicaly dont bring ANYTHING new gameplay mechanic wise no new class or anything... so they needed SOMETHING to sell it with Chapter Price... there are ALLOT of people that only buying it mostly because of Jewellcrafting....because they dont want to be locked out of a game feature that should be BASE LINE IN THE GAME !!!!
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Haquor · May 2018

Can you confirm the difficulty of aquiring the dust? Cause i feel that that is the key to your whole argument. I mean is 1 dust about as rare as 1 temporing alloy? In that case i feel the grind is too much. If they drop from decon on a regular basis then yeah.

Temporing alloy in my experience drops from.about 120 ingots. Are you saying therefore we need 960 gold mats to upgrade one piece of heavy armor?

It all comes down yo how rare the dust is.

lihentian · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Haquor wrote: »

Can you confirm the difficulty of aquiring the dust? Cause i feel that that is the key to your whole argument. I mean is 1 dust about as rare as 1 temporing alloy? In that case i feel the grind is too much. If they drop from decon on a regular basis then yeah.

Temporing alloy in my experience drops from.about 120 ingots. Are you saying therefore we need 960 gold mats to upgrade one piece of heavy armor?

It all comes down yo how rare the dust is.

there is a video on page one on decon gold jewelry. you can ask anyone who play on pts about chance of getting gold mat from refine base material. personally i don't have access to pts, but i did ask around and check out several video.

firedrgn · May 2018

No, this is a Bit much

Um do u all know what it takes tonget gold jewlery ..that grind its self sucks. Lets see telvar with getting ganked they are 100000 telvar each.

Not sure what the other ways you all get gold jewelry but show me a less grindy way to get it.

Juhasow · May 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

Can this thread be closed already ? Basicly all informations OP gaved here are not true and he/she have no idea what is talking about and just speculating.

As for amount of materials required for improving jewelery it's the same as for other craftings. Golden quality items will require 8 materials.

As for "true new elite" sets I think OP dont know what "true elite" means. The difference between perfected and non perfected versions of that sets is just that perfected ones have 1 additional stat bonus on 5th piece which is far away from the huge difference OP tries to say it'll be. Considering a fact how hard people will have to work to obtain that gear , one additional stat bonus doesnt seem that "elite".

As for traits goes different traits will require different ways of obtaining crafting stones and jewelery pieces but there isnt one that would be impossible to obtain. Tbh even if there would be 1 like that we could always just get 1 stone learn that trait and then use retraiting station.

Qbiken · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Ley wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

sharquez wrote: »

If you had any delusions that this wasn't going to be a heck of a grind I hope this is your wake up call, After all, there needs to be an incentive to continue to pursue harder content. That said, I wouldn't mind too bad if they made it a tad easier but in for a penny in for a pound at this point.

Strange, i thought people are here to play game.. i never imagine anyone have too much time and welcome a insane level of grind for something you could acquire otherwise much easier ways.

Ley wrote: »

Everyone did just fine running around with the available jewelry up until now. Suddenly there's another way for them to get gold jewelry and they're complaining because they have to work for it. Typical.

you do realize the time it take to grind 240 gold mat.. right? it will literally cost millions to up one set three piece to gold. which you can also spend a fraction of time/gold and buy them from special vendor or do some trial. we are complaining because it is not a viable method.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to cough up the money or make due with purple/blue jewelry. Assuming I can't get it via other means in game.

Everyone seems to be fixated on the cost/grind to make gold jewelry. I'm just happy I'll be able to craft jewelry for sets that didn't have jewelry previously.

so you would pay around 2 million gold for one set upgrade.. maybe total 3 million for full set of three piece jewelry crafted? you do realize that they require 10 times more for every step of the crafting.. right? that include trait stone, and some trait stone are sold by special vendor only. like there is one that can only be purchase via master wirt merchant.

p.s. with the insane amount of mat required to do jewelry crafting, these mat are probably way more expensive then all current mat... 3 million is only a late game estimate at first release most likely will cost way more gold and effort.

While I don't even remotely agree with your random guesses of how much this will cost. Yes I would pay "insert arbitrary number here" for it or farm for the materials myself, if I felt like gold jewelry was the last thing I needed to complete my character.

If the jewelry is available by means other than crafting, I'll probably just buy it or farm for it; like I would today. If the only option is to craft it then I'll craft it and upgrade it to whatever quality I feel like paying for. If I end up running around with blue jewelry because I don't feel like spending the materials to upgrade, then I guess I'll have to find a way to live with myself.

People in my trading guild expect one ring/necklace to cost around 700k+ ish to fully gold out. And I´ve heard similar prices from other trading guilds as well.

It´s a game after all, not some life long achievement. Jewellery crafting was in my opinion more of a QoL change that would open up for more diversity and reduce the grind for players that didn´t want to spend hours and hours on farming gear in content they don´t want to do. This grind is way too much.

lihentian · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Juhasow wrote: »

Can this thread be closed already ? Basicly all informations OP gaved here are not true and he/she have no idea what is talking about and just speculating.

actually you are the one that have no clue what you are talking about.. you might as well check the video on page 1, or ask anyone who played on pts.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for amount of materials required for improving jewelery it's the same as for other craftings. Golden quality items will require 8 materials.

yes, it take 8 bars. and one bar is made from 10 dust. you will never get bars directly from any source. there is a video on page one.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for "true new elite" sets I think OP dont know what "true elite" means. The difference between perfected and non perfected versions of that sets is just that perfected ones have 1 additional stat bonus on 5th piece which is far away from the huge difference OP tries to say it'll be. Considering a fact how hard people will have to work to obtain that gear , one additional stat bonus doesnt seem that "elite".

Please do explain what "True elite" to you? something that really powerful that break game balance? something that let you one shot anyone without them?? "True Elite" is something to that shows your prowess, something to demonstrate your valor. to proof that you have conquer the hardest content in game. by all means it should not be overpowered, otherwise it will ruin pvp.

p.s. by all means, if you think an additional bonus worth nothing to you. then swear by the name of your god, that you will never use these "perfect" set.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for traits goes different traits will require different ways of obtaining crafting stones and jewelery pieces but there isnt one that would be impossible to obtain. Tbh even if there would be 1 like that we could always just get 1 stone learn that trait and then use retraiting station.

No one ever said trait stone are impossible to obtain, it just take lots of grind to obtain them. it is not like a craft station, which is a one time purchase. these you need to grind in large amount if you like to have several crafting set for various content. (trial, pve, pvp..etc)

edit: sure you could farm stone to change trait on your necklace.. but you will have to do that for every piece of jewelry you ever craft. it is a crafting skill.. how many time do you expect to actually craft? 1 time? 2 times?? usually when people dump hundreds of hour on something, they expect to be able to actually make something.

Juhasow · May 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

lihentian wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Can this thread be closed already ? Basicly all informations OP gaved here are not true and he/she have no idea what is talking about and just speculating.

actually you are the one that have no clue what you are talking about.. you might as well check the video on page 1, or ask anyone who played on pts.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for amount of materials required for improving jewelery it's the same as for other craftings. Golden quality items will require 8 materials.

yes, it take 8 bars. and one bar is made from 10 dust. you will never get bars directly from any source. there is a video on page one.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for "true new elite" sets I think OP dont know what "true elite" means. The difference between perfected and non perfected versions of that sets is just that perfected ones have 1 additional stat bonus on 5th piece which is far away from the huge difference OP tries to say it'll be. Considering a fact how hard people will have to work to obtain that gear , one additional stat bonus doesnt seem that "elite".

Please do explain what "True elite" to you? something that really powerful that break game balance? something that let you one shot anyone without them?? "True Elite" is something to that shows your prowess, something to demonstrate your valor. to proof that you have conquer the hardest content in game. by all means it should not be overpowered, otherwise it will ruin pvp.

p.s. by all means, if you think an additional bonus worth nothing to you. then swear by the name of your god, that you will never use these "perfect" set.

Juhasow wrote: »

As for traits goes different traits will require different ways of obtaining crafting stones and jewelery pieces but there isnt one that would be impossible to obtain. Tbh even if there would be 1 like that we could always just get 1 stone learn that trait and then use retraiting station.

No one ever said trait stone are impossible to obtain, it just take lots of grind to obtain them. it is not like a craft station, which is a one time purchase. these you need to grind in large amount if you like to have several crafting set for various content. (trial, pve, pvp..etc)

edit: sure you could farm stone to change trait on your necklace.. but you will have to do that for every piece of jewelry you ever craft. it is a crafting skill.. how many time do you expect to actually craft? 1 time? 2 times?? usually when people dump hundreds of hour on something, they expect to be able to actually make something.

Ok that's just proves my theory that you have no idea what you're talking about. Also from us two I think it is You who should test things on PTS.

I dont need to ask anyone since I was on PTS and unlike You I have some idea what I am talking about.

1. Ok I kinda misunderstood what exactly was Your statement about but that doesnt change a fact Your way of thinking is based on incomplete knowledge. 1st of all yes You'll have to first get chromium grains which You'll later change to chromium plating in 10:1 ratio and this exchange have 100% chance so yeah You'll need 80 grains for improving 1 jewelery piece in that context. What You seem to not knowing is that You'll get grains from both deconstructing gold jewelery and refining raw materials. For deconstructing chance will be pretty high. This is kinda ok if You consider a fact that jewelery is only 3 pieces so you need 24 gold materials where for example to goldening out armor You need 56 of these and it's much easier to farm gold jewelery then gold clothing etc. Vet AA for example takes like 15 minutes and people get guaranteed golden jewelery piece from there and from hard mode which is not that longer 2 jewelery pieces. You can also buy golden jewelery every weekend from PvP vendor. Show me similar ways of obtaining golden items for other craftings. There are only weekly leaderboard rewards which also often includes golden jewelery.

2. If You didnt noticed that yet all sets from new trial maybe except healer one are strongly PvE based and will have zero use in PvP. In PvE additional 1k stamina for example is not game changer. In Your earlier statements You created some wierd outrage about fact there will be some better sets for elitist completly having no idea what that sets will give. There will be maybe less then 1% peoople in the game running in perfected versions of this sets and it'll give them ~1% additional DPS increase. Truly worth QQing about.

3. Stones have kinda easy ways to obtain them. Every trait stone is obtained through different activities but non of them is that time consuming. Lets not forget That You'll use those stones only for crafted item sets since all droped ones will still have only arcane/robust/healthy so for dropped sets You'll have retrait jewelery anyway. As for retraiting I am gladly awaiting opportunity to get rid of all boxes with transmute crystals I have. Lets be honest most of active players after some time start to have issue with using those crystals for anything. I persoanlly have nothing to do with them since quite some time.

My final conclusion for You is that noone never said that jewelery crafting will be the crafting on pair with other ones. Having golden jewelery will be reward for active players that have Summerset and participate in the content not something that even the biggest scrubs in the game will be having on every character.

lihentian · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Juhasow wrote: »

1. Ok I kinda misunderstood what exactly was Your statement about but that doesnt change a fact Your way of thinking is based on incomplete knowledge. 1st of all yes You'll have to first get chromium grains which You'll later change to chromium plating in 10:1 ratio and this exchange have 100% chance so yeah You'll need 80 grains for improving 1 jewelery piece in that context. What You seem to not knowing is that You'll get grains from both deconstructing gold jewelery and refining raw materials for deconstructing chance will be pretty high. This is kinda ok if You consider a fact that jewelery is only 3 pieces so you need 24 gold materials where for example to goldening out armor You need 56 of these and it's much easier to farm gold jewelery then gold clothing etc. Vet AA for example takes like 15 minutes and people get guaranteed golden jewelery piece from there and from hard mode which is not that longer 2 jewelery pieces. You can also buy golden jewelery every weekend from PvP vendor. Show me similar ways of obtaining golden items for other craftings. There are only weekly leaderboard rewards which also often includes golden jewelery.

oyou need 80 dust to make 8 bar, since you claim to be playing on pts. have you ever get a bar directly? there is a video on page one, someone decon 100 gold ring on pts and they end up with 72 dust. which is not enough for upgrade one ring to gold. how long does it take you to acquire 100 gold jewelry? please do ignore me if you can farm 10~20 each day every day.

Second, you said you were playing on pts. but have you notice how rare these jewelry node are? and how often do you get gold mat? i have consult with several friend they all said the chance is not that great, and the node are hard to find. please confirm. also you only get 1 dust at a time.

True jewelry only have 3 piece. but it take 240 gold mat to upgrade them. While a full set of armor cost only 7x8= 56. According to my friend who were playing on pts, you only get 1 dust at a time. now since you were also on pts, tell me how often do you get gold mat from refine raw material?

p.s. for every crafting profession you get upgrade material when deconstruct, but they get full material. while on jewelry craft side you will only get 1/10 of the a full material when you decon, thats if you are getting them at all...

Juhasow wrote: »

2. If You didnt noticed that yet all sets from new trial maybe except healer one are strongly PvE based and will have zero use in PvP. In PvE additional 1k stamina for example is not game changer. In Your earlier statements You created some wierd outrage about fact there will be some better sets for elitist completly having no idea what that sets will give. There will be maybe less then 1% peoople in the game running in perfected versions of this sets and it'll give them ~1% additional DPS increase. Truly worth QQing about.

QQ???? i never said these are op, have i? am saying since they are offering better loot in trial, perhaps normal gold jewelry wouldn't be as desirable in the near future.. since they are likely doing this for every future trial.. so you will always have a reason to run raid.. if gear is your only intention.

p.s. am not sure where you get the idea that am against or worried of these perfect trial gear.. am just saying normal crafted gold jewelry set wouldn't be the best in slot since they are making better ones drop in trial only. even today rarely do people use crafted set, several of the trial set still dominated high end pvp and pve.

Juhasow wrote: »

3. Stones have kinda easy ways to obtain them. Every trait stone is obtained through different activities but non of them is that time consuming. Lets not forget That You'll use those stones only for crafted item sets since all droped ones will still have only arcane/robust/healthy so for dropped sets You'll have retrait jewelery anyway. As for retraiting I am gladly awaiting opportunity to get rid of all boxes with transmute crystals I have. Lets be honest most of active players after some time start to have issue with using those crystals for anything. I persoanlly have nothing to do with them since quite some time.

yes, they are adding 6 new trait. The real question is.. when you craft jewelry you are spending tons of money/material. wouldn't you want the best?? or you would prefer to grind 50 stone for every piece of jewelry you ever crafted? am not saying this is a bad thing, or we can't accept it. am just saying this crafting line is very grindy and perhaps the requirement should be lower.

Juhasow wrote: »

My final conclusion for You is that noone never said that jewelery crafting will be the crafting on pair with other ones. This is reward for active players that have Summerset for participating in the content.

hmm.. who ask jewelry to be on par with other crafting? am just saying TEN times more material is kinda insane, and perhaps should be lower to make it worthwhile.

ghastley · May 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

Yes, it's a significant change to the set balance, as you can now wear two crafted sets of 5 pieces. That needs to come in slowly, so players can adjust, and a long grind is what slows it down.

We'll see if they got the rate right over the month or two after it goes live.

SONEshock · May 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Seems like the way it's been designed, people with the most money (crowns and gold) have been fully endorsed by ZoS to spend to their heart's content to reduce the irritations of the system with the research reduction scrolls. Even no-lifers with time to kill would have a heck of a time gathering enough of the mats to make anything useful.

And Oblivion help you if you have multiple crafting characters.

Quality-of-life changes that would ease the grind burden of the targeted player base (those that have bought or plan on buying Summerset) might include:

setting up improving and refining for JC the same way as other professions. As long as it took for them to implement, there's no real reason to pass an additional, unreasonably large time sink to the players that support and finance the game between the whole Dust+Bars+Ounces thing

Removing the area restrictions to find certain trait stones. Every other profession's mats can be obtained anywhere else in Tamriel - what makes JC so special? Only haughty High Elves can craft it? Nobody even bothered to sugar-coat what a lame restriction this is be in the break room?

Adding a passive in the JC skill line that permits research of multiple traits at a time. It sounds like it would just speed everything up, but put it next to the other crafting professions for a moment. We're still looking at months and months of research to create accessories for sets that have been in the game for who knows how long - 4-5 months of research to create a ring or necklace in only one trait is clearly designed to push the crafters into the CS to buy scrolls.

Really hoping someone is thinking about the players over at HQ and lays off the skooma long enough to see what a long and unbelievably tedious climb JC is going to be when it has the potential to line up with other professions and possibly be enjoyable.

Arrodisia · June 2018

No, this is a Bit much

Some people have the misconception still that jewelry crafting functions the same as other equipment crafting but it is actually 10x the grind, since we need 10 dust to make each template.

Jewelry crafting research times combined with not being able to research 2 items at one time is already annoying enough, but doable. However, the farming of enough nodes necessary for the dust accumulation to create one single template is way worse. Especially since we are lucky to receive 1 gold dust, and maybe 2-4 purple dust, instead templates per 700-1000 mats, the rng seems ridiculously low. It is too rare to get more dust mats while refining that amount.

If we received a gold template directly instead of dust like all other equipment crafting professions, I would've been ok with refining approx 500-600 mats maybe even 700 for a gold template because that would already be a bit grindy, but getting only dust is just ridiculous. When you figure it all together, that is so many hours of mat farming for 1 template, I'm just not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel. The 100k+ price tag on 1 single template after almost a month on PC already tells a sad story here.

Changing the drops for refining to directly getting templates would be better and more in line with other professions and/or increasing the drops from refining significantly will make the player goals seem more attainable yet retain some of the grind IMHO.

Ananoriel · June 2018

No, this is a Bit much

Jewellery pieces are a bit harder to acquire than armor or weapons, since they are only three pieces. So on that part I can understand why it is a bit more grind to level up your skill in it. But the amount of grains and stuff for the upgrade (first 10 x for one single green material x 4 for one green item, and it is even worse if you want to go for purple or gold) is a bit too much for me.

Gilvoth · June 2018

Yes, this is just the right amount of grind for jewelry craft

this to me seems comfortable and i am very much in favor of it and the small grind it presents, and maybe now people will begin to understand and pay us Master Crafters our proper Gold seeing how it really is not an easy task to become Master in the armor and weapons and jewelry and enchantment areas.

firedrgn · June 2018

No, this is a Bit much

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this to me seems comfortable and i am very much in favor of it and the small grind it presents, and maybe now people will begin to understand and pay us Master Crafters our proper Gold seeing how it really is not an easy task to become Master in the armor and weapons and jewelry and enchantment areas.

Small grind and then u want rewarded because its not easy. Hummmmm ya. Did you even read what u wrote. Cause u did not make it past coherency.

Hartagon · June 2018

Hell no, this is insane..

Should have been identical to the already existent crafting.

There is quite literally no reason for it to be as much of a grind as it is. No reason beyond the scumbag business practice of wasting as much of the player's time as possible so they have subscribe longer to accomplish the same thing, that is.