once the shiny has worn off of the new stuff it will go back to normal

The Market is on a normal Lvl right now. Prices for Motifes are still a bit low, but else? Completly normal prices

That's happening at PC EU as well market wide. Trading weeks were quite silent before the release of Summerset and sale numbers were lower than usually at almost every guild, no matter of the location.
Then the expansion got released and during the release week sale numbers rocketed sky high, cash did flow like there's no tomorrow.
And now... silence. Raw materials are dropping in prices. When they are being listed in stores in the morning, during lunch they are already slightly overpriced. This is demotivating harvesters and those who are mostly making gold out by harvesting nodes and selling them.
This results that farmers motivation on selling raw materials is lowering and many of them are sitting on thousands of materials, yet refusing to sell them, because the price does not reflect the effort these players made for harvesting.

> Stores are getting emptier and for refiners it's harder to find enough fair deals, which would be worth to purchase, when keeping in mind decreasing price of refined golden materials.

> Less and less golden upgrading materials are being listed in the store.

> Guilds suffers even more, because usual material based sales are not happening and if someone actually buy for refining, amounts aren't as wide as they used to be months ago.

I don't know how are prices going at NA server with jewellery dusts, but at EU server prices aren't still reflecting the golden upgrade prices, especially when more and more people are lowering down the prices of platings, almost leading to point when purchasing dust makes 0 sense and leads to negative profit. Which is also negative thing for jewellery material harvesters too, because from refiner's perspective purchasing dust is not clever, so obviously less dust is also being sold. This leads to the point where guilds which included a lot harvesters, crafters and refiners are being hit most with decreased sales.

But that's not all folks!

Since Summerset expansion got heavy impacts on meta especially on PvE, now a lot end game PvE players have a need to farm their gear again and many of them are grinding Cloudrest as well and often as they can. This causes the situation where the buying power is decreasing even more for couple of weeks, when players are focusing on farming their gear.
I guess we have to wait couple of weeks if not even months before all this gear farming is more or less closer to be finished and players can focus on something else. These farmed gears very likely needs improving and golden materials might face higher demand again. Hopefully

Farming mats is easier now than making gold to buy them. Especially when you are a master crafter doing writs and use hirelings plus Shadowy Supplier. Also, TTC is a double edge sword: makes flipping and raising prices of rare things easier, but lowers the price of common items. Furthermore, because of insane prices and flipping we don't bother to use the guild traders anymore. We put a lot of things in our "internal" guild store with lower guildie prices.

Plus more and more people are using trader search engines to always home in on the traders with the best prices.

With jewelry mats being as pricey as they are, that's not really surprising.

Ad that to the fact that most people are out playing the new content and farming gear and leveling their own JC skill line, it stands to reason that fewer people will be out buying stuff. Especially because a lot of people are looking at the prices of those mats and deciding that it is NOT worth it.

Curiously though, lesser traders seem less affected by this since these have always been the traders players sought out specifically for specific deals they are known to have. I suspect lesser trading guilds are feeling the impact of this less than the "big" ones.

Farm and list the new uniqueness. Pearl. Gall. Sacks. Psij and Sap and Py motifs. Sling the new purple and gold meals. The demand for certain trait stones won’t go down anytime soon.

I’ve grown my bankroll by 25% since summerset launch.

It's always interesting to see traders complaining about trends in the market that they always claim can only happen under an auction house system !

Summer is always very slow sales I believe for any mmo, but the thing I did not agree with is that they went cross console and took 2/3rd's of the pc population away

Once the farming hype goes down, the materials may recover a bit.
Analysing the guild sales is indeed proving that the regular material sales are decreasing.
Which doesn't seem to affect everyone though, at least not yet. Motifs and Materials were decreasing since Dragonbone already, for obvious reasons. With the anniversary motif madness and the summerset farming flood we're probably soon hitting the rock bottom in that item categories. Then it's exercising patience and possibly refiners and material traders gotta consider to extend their offers or shift their focus.

Seriously, this was predictable.

The day they announced that maormer chapters were harvested through fishing, I scooped up every stack of worms under 4K and a week before launch started listing them at 8k. I also unloaded every perfect roe and tempering alloy I had because of course a flood of people farming mats were going to be coming across a lot of those too, so sell before the cliff.

Next is mid year mayhem. Late July of last year, dunno exact time yet this year. But consider the impact that double AP will have on people - they are going to buy up a lot of stuff from the vendors there, like militant ordinator and triune stones and etc. So start unloading now whatever you’ve got that people can buy with AP before that cliff hits, and build up stocks of things people are going to have great need such as immovable pots and all the other things that pvp play doesn’t provide.

If your stuff isn't selling you probably need to drop your prices.

My tempering alloys didn't sell yesterday at 5800; I dropped to 5650 and they sold like hotcakes.

I don't think sitting on mountains of tempers is a good strategy in cases like this. I'd rather make 5650 per temper than 0 while waiting for them to return to 7k.

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The motif market still hasn't recovered from the jubilee event. If anything, it's getting worse. I've had a lot of motifs listed well below the average price for a while now (in two top trading guilds) and zero sales. You can hardly give them away now.

That's mostly because the player base already got what they needed at Jubilee event:
Many people completed already styles they lacked/wanted to get and rest of motifs were stored in bank for collecting dust and waiting for prices to go up again. But what we need in order to even get motifs up in prices is demand. That's what we have a lack currently:
We don't have enough new buyers who are in need of those motifs, so demand is naturally low, meanwhile supply is higher.
Everyone wants to sell, but not many are actually buying those motifs.

Fiktius wrote: »

weedgenius wrote: »

The motif market still hasn't recovered from the jubilee event. If anything, it's getting worse. I've had a lot of motifs listed well below the average price for a while now (in two top trading guilds) and zero sales. You can hardly give them away now.

That's mostly because the player base already got what they needed at Jubilee event:
Many people completed already styles they lacked/wanted to get and rest of motifs were stored in bank for collecting dust and waiting for prices to go up again. But what we need in order to even get motifs up in prices is demand. That's what we have a lack currently:
We don't have enough new buyers who are in need of those motifs, so demand is naturally low, meanwhile supply is higher.
Everyone wants to sell, but not many are actually buying those motifs.

Only if they didn't go cross console and steal 2/3rd's of the PC population

If what your doing isn't working, then try something else.

I think its not the only reason. A lot of people probaly quit this game when they heared that new ES is coming out. (wich was probaly only reason they played that)