This will never happen. For one, what criteria would they use for roles? How do they know if a group should have 1 tank, 2 tanks, same for healers/etc. I'm all for making grouping more accessible to everyone, but the group finder is not the way. They need some sort of in-game LFG tool.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
This will never happen. For one, what criteria would they use for roles? How do they know if a group should have 1 tank, 2 tanks, same for healers/etc. I'm all for making grouping more accessible to everyone, but the group finder is not the way. They need some sort of in-game LFG tool.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
There's nothing to stop people from grouping into your manual PUGS like this already. At least with Group Finder you could vote to kick.
BigBadVolk wrote: »BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
There's nothing to stop people from grouping into your manual PUGS like this already. At least with Group Finder you could vote to kick.
true, I admit it would help a bit, but it would be just as much a mess as the dungeon group finder, maybe even worse with waiting for 12 people at least for trials
I have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
I have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
The issue would be the 12 fake dpsI have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
You miss my point. It will be a train wreck.
Most that really want to are in guilds that raid, maybe even a couple of them. That leaves pretty much inexperienced and whatever for queuing up.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
The issue would be the 12 fake dpsI have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
You miss my point. It will be a train wreck.
Most that really want to are in guilds that raid, maybe even a couple of them. That leaves pretty much inexperienced and whatever for queuing up.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
The issue would be the 12 fake dpsI have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
You miss my point. It will be a train wreck.
Most that really want to are in guilds that raid, maybe even a couple of them. That leaves pretty much inexperienced and whatever for queuing up.
AzraelKrieg wrote: »Been a while, let's see who is around.
ARCHIBALD! THE GIF!
Thanks Archibald.
BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
The issue would be the 12 fake dpsI have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
You miss my point. It will be a train wreck.
Most that really want to are in guilds that raid, maybe even a couple of them. That leaves pretty much inexperienced and whatever for queuing up.BigBadVolk wrote: »inb4 12 fake tanks or 12 fake healers or 6 fake tanks and 6 fake healers and so on
The issue would be the 12 fake dpsI have no issues with adding the normal versions to the GF, but it will be a train wreck.
Think about the complaint threads about GF groups we already get with much easier content. Those same people will blame everyone else for a group being challenged to clear nHoF and maybe nAA will be a challenge for some random groups.
If they offer a decent reward for doing a random GF trial we will see decent groups form up on their own before entering the GF just like they do for dungeons.
And that's part of the plan too. You offer Group Finder for those that want it. That increases interest in the content, as well as gives people increased exposure and practice in doing the content. Those who want to make their own groups will then have far more people willing and able to run if there's a daily random reward.
You miss my point. It will be a train wreck.
Most that really want to are in guilds that raid, maybe even a couple of them. That leaves pretty much inexperienced and whatever for queuing up.
I seriously doubt this. If there was a tool available to make grouping easier for raids/arenas, people would use it. Dungeon Finder isn't nearly as bad as the people on this forum make it out to be. An equivalent tool for other content would make grouping for normal trials and arenas easier. It's no different than if you're pulling PUGs from zone chat, just much easier, and you have the option to vote to kick.
This will never happen. For one, what criteria would they use for roles? How do they know if a group should have 1 tank, 2 tanks, same for healers/etc. I'm all for making grouping more accessible to everyone, but the group finder is not the way. They need some sort of in-game LFG tool.
Never say never. LFG, Group Finder, something in between, doesn't matter.
The game needs a way to form groups for this content.
This will never happen. For one, what criteria would they use for roles? How do they know if a group should have 1 tank, 2 tanks, same for healers/etc. I'm all for making grouping more accessible to everyone, but the group finder is not the way. They need some sort of in-game LFG tool.
Never say never. LFG, Group Finder, something in between, doesn't matter.
The game needs a way to form groups for this content.
I'm fairly certain I said this exact same thing with the exception being that I also stated trials will NEVER be added to the group finder currently in game. Which is the way it should be.