What is the most disgusting OP build you can come up with?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Just for the record, and this is not a knock on @THEDKEXPERIENCE but he is Zerg surfing in this anecdote and literally anything is viable in those situations. Again, this is not a criticism of that playstyle whatsoever, just a true statement.

Not wrong. Haha.

I’ll play devils advocate and tell you where it is absolutely not BIS or close ... in a 1 on 1 battle. In situation like that Zaan, Grothdar and Skoria are better. Cyrodiil, however, is usually not a static 1 on 1 battle.

When there are 100 people on the screen though, and stuff is firing left and right, and the game is lagging, and there are no add-ons saying “DODGE ROLL NOW!!!!” its highly effective.

Furthermore, as @Lexxypwns knows, I’ve played odd builds for years. Sometimes I screw up and it’s ugly, but every now and then I supercharge my toon to an outrageous level and now is one of those times. Here is my current build, when I’m not using VD for maximum fun.

3 Grace of the Ancients
5 Julianos
2 Willpower
2 Illambris
Magplar: 52.7k+ Magicka
Sword and Board + Lightning Staff w/ Fire Enchant

Real world application: I’m at Sejanus, and there are 20 blues ramming the door. Cast a freeze time, spam some heavy lightning attacks to double proc Illambris (the double proc is really the key to it because it can hit more than 1 person and often hits a half dozen in part), follow up with an Ice Comet, Soul Assault or even Radiant and watch people melt.

That said, I’m the glassiest of cannons. Sure I can heal and shield quite well but if you just charge me my only other real defense is blasting your face with a soul assault. That’s why I have it.

But ... while the gap close against me is the best counter attack there are many situations (like above) where gap closing is impossible and others where vast numbers of people simply will not do it like when 2 zergs collide.

If the question was is this the best build for a totally static 1 on 1 skill based fight the answer is absolutely not. But that’s not what I’m trying to do. What I’m trying to do in Cyrodiil more often than not is leave a massive pile of bodies in a 50 on 50 fight. In that respect my set up is amazing and works completely well.

Final note, I did take a year off from ESO and came back a few weeks ago. Before my absence I had been playing virtually daily since the PC beta. I have more than enough skill to defend myself in a 1 on 1 so I try to rely on that in situations where my gear is not up to par. So far so good.

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2018

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

VD was fun.

So yeah, VD + Illambris + Time Freeze + Templar Triple Fireball or Lightning Staff Fire enchant or Ice Comet = Melt

Post vids when you get a chance. Those combos look nasty on paper.

Maryal · June 2018

not telling ... for obvious reasons.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

VD was fun.

So yeah, VD + Illambris + Time Freeze + Templar Triple Fireball or Lightning Staff Fire enchant or Ice Comet = Melt

Post vids when you get a chance. Those combos look nasty on paper.

If you can give me a quick tutorial on how to do that I’d be happy to. I’m not that great with that stuff. Maybe a twitch stream?

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2018

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

VD was fun.

So yeah, VD + Illambris + Time Freeze + Templar Triple Fireball or Lightning Staff Fire enchant or Ice Comet = Melt

Post vids when you get a chance. Those combos look nasty on paper.

If you can give me a quick tutorial on how to do that I’d be happy to. I’m not that great with that stuff. Maybe a twitch stream?

You play on Xbox right?

On PS4 I can link Twitch/Youtube, save the video via the Share button, then upload it. Never played/owned a Xbox.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

VD was fun.

So yeah, VD + Illambris + Time Freeze + Templar Triple Fireball or Lightning Staff Fire enchant or Ice Comet = Melt

Post vids when you get a chance. Those combos look nasty on paper.

If you can give me a quick tutorial on how to do that I’d be happy to. I’m not that great with that stuff. Maybe a twitch stream?

You play on Xbox right?

On PS4 I can link Twitch/Youtube, save the video via the Share button, then upload it. Never played/owned a Xbox.

I’ll give it a try tonight. No idea if I’ll get it to work or not haha.

Waffennacht · June 2018

@THEDKEXPERIENCE what I do is while playing have the Xbox recording set to like a min.

Something happens, double click big middle Xbox button, and hit "X" for "record that"

Go on laptop with Xbox app. Download video

Either use an editing program to remove 30+ sec of walking lol or just upload on to YouTube

Post link here

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

@THEDKEXPERIENCE what I do is while playing have the Xbox recording set to like a min.

Something happens, double click big middle Xbox button, and hit "X" for "record that"

Go on laptop with Xbox app. Download video

Either use an editing program to remove 30+ sec of walking lol or just upload on to YouTube

Post link here

Thanks man! I just downloaded the app so I can probably post some links tonight.

Akinos · June 2018

Here's that universal magicka build I talked about in the magnb thread. I've tried this setup on magplar, magdk and magnb so far and it works pretty well on each class. I call it the "Star Breaker" build xD
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=66973
Run whatever glpyhs and jewelry traits you want on this build, you will still have really high base stats.
Enjoy~

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2018

Akinos wrote: »

Here's that universal magicka build I talked about in the magnb thread. I've tried this setup on magplar, magdk and magnb so far and it works pretty well on each class. I call it the "Star Breaker" build xD
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=66973
Run whatever glpyhs and jewelry traits you want on this build, you will still have really high base stats.
Enjoy~

Re: really high base stats

I got my first gold necklace last night. Pushed my magic on my Magplar above 52.8k for the first time.

Still don’t have Undaunted 9.

My crack-like magic addiction knows no ends.

Akinos · June 2018

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Here's that universal magicka build I talked about in the magnb thread. I've tried this setup on magplar, magdk and magnb so far and it works pretty well on each class. I call it the "Star Breaker" build xD
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=66973
Run whatever glpyhs and jewelry traits you want on this build, you will still have really high base stats.
Enjoy~

Re: really high base stats

I got my first gold necklace last night. Pushed my magic on my Magplar above 52.8k for the first time.

Still don’t have Undaunted 9.

My crack-like magic addiction knows no ends.

okay?

mursie · June 2018

Zaan/Surge/Sloads

_Ahala_ · June 2018

5x Buffer of the Swift 5x Ashen Grip 2x Bogdan on a magden ice staff bow build with invigorating traits of body and protective traits on jewelry... no armor, weapon, or jewelry enchants because the build performes fine without them... also use the sweet roll food for role play reasons

geonsocal · June 2018

Littlebluelizard wrote: »

Sloads, Infused Torugs with infused Oblivion damage, Skoria (or any monster set). True cancer

if I can ever level my jewel crafting to 50 (only need to craft 3 trait set) - this is the build i want for my magblade, with velidreth...

TheDoomsdayMonster · June 2018

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

Now you are moving goal posts...

First you said "only a few sets are viable."

Now you are saying "optimized and competitive."

These are different things...

A given build that is "optimized and competitive" may well be inferior to another build that excells at Zerg surfing (for example)...

In conclusion, there are many viable ways to character build in this game that will yield good results...

It just depends on what you want your character to excell at...

TheDoomsdayMonster · June 2018

_Ahala_ wrote: »

5x Buffer of the Swift 5x Ashen Grip 2x Bogdan on a magden ice staff bow build with invigorating traits of body and protective traits on jewelry... no armor, weapon, or jewelry enchants because the build performes fine without them... also use the sweet roll food for role play reasons

Now THAT is the build that we all should recommend to those who come to the forums begging for "build hand-outs"...

Maybe that'll motivate them to think for themselves...

brandonv516 · June 2018

Spinners
Sloads
Skoria

Switched to an Argonian and using an Infused Lightning Staff with Oblivion enchant.

Lethal for BGs.

mursie · June 2018

brandonv516 wrote: »

Spinners
Sloads
Skoria

Switched to an Argonian and using an Infused Lightning Staff with Oblivion enchant.

Lethal for BGs.

curious why lightning over fire??

IZZEFlameLash · June 2018

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

Now you are moving goal posts...

First you said "only a few sets are viable."

Now you are saying "optimized and competitive."

These are different things...

A given build that is "optimized and competitive" may well be inferior to another build that excells at Zerg surfing (for example)...

In conclusion, there are many viable ways to character build in this game that will yield good results...

It just depends on what you want your character to excell at...

Not really. I've only used 'viable' quite liberally first post in a general sense the community used. Then, I decided that it would needed to be defined much more. If I was moving goal post, I would do it exactly like your current post. My argument hasn't changed. Not exactly moving the goal post there. Goal post moving would involve shifting of main core arguments and strawman. Just going more into details about what I meant by 'viable few sets'.

Zergsurfing don't really require a build. However, optimized builds do better at zergsurfing as well. 2 full raid of meta builds is much scarier than 2 full raid of main quest reward gears (no sets), with willy nilly point invested builds. Even having like few optimized build runners mixed in the zerg is much scarier than willy nilly gear zergs. But, this would be me repeating the same thing I said over and over again. Optimized builds >>> unoptimized in almost all situations unless optimized build runner happens to be the less skilled than unoptimized build runner or unoptimized builds that are like full on damage without regen ganking people while they are on their mounts afk or like DKEXPERIENCE's case. But anyways, you do you. Carry on.

brandonv516 · June 2018

mursie wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

Spinners
Sloads
Skoria

Switched to an Argonian and using an Infused Lightning Staff with Oblivion enchant.

Lethal for BGs.

curious why lightning over fire??

Preference really. Helps with sustain for me.

Ocelot9x · June 2018

Lot of EP dk on ps4 are running viper/sloads heavy spamming reverb and heavy attacks. The absolute Xv1 build

Mayrael · June 2018

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

And how do you determine what is "optimized and competitive," by the fact that everyone else does it or someone told you so? Fact of the matter is, PvP still requires enough skill to make a build work and even then someone can have enough skill to make it NOT work. You can wear whatever meta you want and still get destroyed by someone that isn't. When that happens, what is "optimized and competitive" then? Don't bring up the pathetic argument of "skill levels" and state something similar to "if they were on the same skill level it wouldn't have happened." How do you know that? PvP is not PvE where you can actually determine what is the best and fight predictable, brain-dead opponents. You can and will find yourself in completely unpredictable situations where more than just the sets you wear count.

Let's not even get into "overshadowed by sets with similar functionality", have you looked at the set list? What similarity are you talking about? General idea of doing damage? General stat boost? Even Skoria, Grothdaar, Zaan, and Illambris are all situationally better than one another. Versus any "skilled player" all of those sets would be better replaced with a defensive set because you gonna die in 2-6 seconds.

As fruitless as it is, I will say this, in this game, gear does matter which is why few gear sets always form core at the heart of competitive (meaning, competitive in almost every situations). Unoptimized/uncompetitive sets as I said are 'viable' but overshadowed in performance by similar but better sets. Like Truth outclasses Senche for example. You may get very specialized build outside of those sets that is good at handful of situation but that really isn't exactly competitive. Which is why we see a convergence into few sets as core part of the builds used by very skilled players. Skills now is basically a fraction. If you don't think gear matters all that much, then refer to defile/bleed and proc meta. Tell me how successful you are without proper gear setup for bleeds on people who are decent players for example.

Skoria/Zaan/Grothdaar >>>>>>>>>>>> Illambris for PvP. Illambris is literally only good against people who like to stay in the red without thinking of moving out of it. If I see you using Illambris, I will consider you a very easy target and it always had been the case. There's a reason why this is limited to PvE usage in theorycrafting. Try tell good players with offensive gameplay to not use Skoria or Zaan. You won't be able to get them off of it. As they also tend to build for defense more. Illambris fails in most of PvP environments provided that enemies are even slightly competent.

Shush, they know secret builds and sets combinations that outclass bleed&defile etc. by a mile, we meta pleb are not worthy to read their posts, our limited brains won't handle it, let's just tear them apart with our barbaric and widely used by pleb builds

Yes, there are some niche sets that can be used but these are useful just for some builds and situations (even mentioned 7th is an example of this, it shines Vs multiple enemies but vs 2 high burst classes it's not as good as you would think). Niche sets are niche not because nobody knows they exists, they're like that because their usage is limited to few builds and purposes.

ZOS_JesC · June 2018

Greetings, since there are several other threads open on the topic of gear builds, we have decided to close this one. Please feel free to continue your discussion in any one of the other threads. Thank you for your understanding.