What is the most disgusting OP build you can come up with?

Knowledge

As many of you know the proc set meta is atrocious right now.

I'd love to see some builds that just take full advantage of this patch for the fun of it.

I'm assuming we'll be seeing a lot of Sloads.

Gprime31

Sloads,durok,Zaan, cost poison any class
From what I see on my death recap

Bergzorn

I'd suggest to go full (12x) sload's.

Beardimus

Lol. Normally these threads are seriously contentious.

This one is a little blatant, tut tut.

The answer to your question (if legit) is in all other thread on the forum lol.

wozborne

Sload’s, Duroks, Zaan, Master DW backbar, heavy armor Stamblade.

WaltherCarraway

5 pieces invigorating Sload's

Nevasca

Sloads, Infused Torugs with infused Oblivion damage, Skoria (or any monster set). True cancer

Brutusmax1mus

My buddies nb health tank guarding people. His drain essence and dark cloak out heal damage completely. It's actually dumb. Dark cloak and invigorating drain make him near unkillable, add in block.. lol good luck. I think he's got 95k hp with a practical build.

Metemsycosis

95k.

TheDoomsdayMonster

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Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

IZZEFlameLash

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

And what's the point in so called "secrets" in this game? Only few sets are viable. Also, no one with the same stats/gears/bars/CP allocations will have the same results because of playstyle and skill level difference unless they are in a group to minimize the gap. I really don't see the point in this type of attitude. You might have had the point if your post was about playstyle but this seem like a straight up attempt at insulting the OP who may or may not even be looking for builds to play. Even if he is, no real need to bash people like them as they might have very limited playtime that they want to spend in actually playing the game instead of sitting in front of sheets and formulate for 90% of their limited time.

TheDoomsdayMonster

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

And what's the point in so called "secrets" in this game? Only few sets are viable. Also, no one with the same stats/gears/bars/CP allocations will have the same results because of playstyle and skill level difference unless they are in a group to minimize the gap. I really don't see the point in this type of attitude. You might have had the point if your post was about playstyle but this seem like a straight up attempt at insulting the OP who may or may not even be looking for builds to play. Even if he is, no real need to bash people like them as they might have very limited playtime that they want to spend in actually playing the game instead of sitting in front of sheets and formulate for 90% of their limited time.

There are more than "a few viable sets"...

Sometimes a set isnt OP until someone demonstrates that it is; how long was 7th around before it took off? That applies for some sets that I've seen the power of ingame that arent really talked about much here on the forums (and I definitely intend of making sure it stays that way)...

And there is no need to "sit infront of sheets" to theory craft a strong build; all it requires is a few moments of thinking (but that is apparently too hard for some people)...

If doing that is too taxing for someone, then a lesser game like DC Universe might be a better option...

Betsararie

I don't think it matters much now there are so many sets that do everything for you.

rimmidimdim

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

My buddies nb health tank guarding people. His drain essence and dark cloak out heal damage completely. It's actually dumb. Dark cloak and invigorating drain make him near unkillable, add in block.. lol good luck. I think he's got 95k hp with a practical build.

95k? Is that possible?

IZZEFlameLash

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Don't feed the troll he is only looking for free builds to troll others

Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

And what's the point in so called "secrets" in this game? Only few sets are viable. Also, no one with the same stats/gears/bars/CP allocations will have the same results because of playstyle and skill level difference unless they are in a group to minimize the gap. I really don't see the point in this type of attitude. You might have had the point if your post was about playstyle but this seem like a straight up attempt at insulting the OP who may or may not even be looking for builds to play. Even if he is, no real need to bash people like them as they might have very limited playtime that they want to spend in actually playing the game instead of sitting in front of sheets and formulate for 90% of their limited time.

There are more than "a few viable sets"...

Sometimes a set isnt OP until someone demonstrates that it is; how long was 7th around before it took off? That applies for some sets that I've seen the power of ingame that arent really talked about much here on the forums (and I definitely intend of making sure it stays that way)...

And there is no need to "sit infront of sheets" to theory craft a strong build; all it requires is a few moments of thinking (but that is apparently too hard for some people)...

If doing that is too taxing for someone, then a lesser game like DC Universe might be a better option...

Well, you do you. As someone who comes up with his own build, I still find this type of attitude very unnecessary in this game. Sharing ideas is such a frowned upon practice nowadays I guess.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

davey1107

What is the most OP, unfair, ridiculously poorly conceived setupmthat seems like the dev team is cheating? Why reinvent the wheel and put work into answering that question? Someone just send a screenshot of the build Wrobel is running on his anime yaoi proc sorc and I think we will have a strong clue.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Time freeze + illambris + Templar triple fireball has me melting whole groups tonight in PVP. This is the first time I’ve gotten to use my new rotation since the XBox update because I’ve been on vacation.

It’s insane.

I’m also starting to think I should fish my Vicious Death out of the closet.

VD was fun.

So yeah, VD + Illambris + Time Freeze + Templar Triple Fireball or Lightning Staff Fire enchant or Ice Comet = Melt

IZZEFlameLash

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

Brutusmax1mus

rimmidimdim wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

My buddies nb health tank guarding people. His drain essence and dark cloak out heal damage completely. It's actually dumb. Dark cloak and invigorating drain make him near unkillable, add in block.. lol good luck. I think he's got 95k hp with a practical build.

95k? Is that possible?

Ive seen him at 104k

THEDKEXPERIENCE

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

On XBox, I do and yes. No matter what people say to the contrary most people simple do not move out of the way, especially while sieging or as a ball group. A person is smart, people are often not so smart. Now that I can actually freeze them in place it’s freeze, fire/lightning, proc, Ice Comet, Vicious Death, bodies at doors in piles.

Edit: it’s also great when shooting up at people on walls. It’s situational but vastly more effective than you’d expect. Made about 150k AP just running around for a few hours, not AP farming.

IZZEFlameLash

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

On XBox, I do and yes. No matter what people say to the contrary most people simple do not move out of the way, especially while sieging or as a ball group. A person is smart, people are often not so smart. Now that I can actually freeze them in place it’s freeze, fire/lightning, proc, Ice Comet, Vicious Death, bodies at doors in piles.

Edit: it’s also great when shooting up at people on walls. It’s situational but vastly more effective than you’d expect. Made about 150k AP just running around for a few hours, not AP farming.

Interesting. On PC, even the most beginners tend to roll dodge out of Illambris or red circle. Lol.

Kadoin

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Don't feed the troll he is only looking for free builds to troll others

Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

And what's the point in so called "secrets" in this game? Only few sets are viable. Also, no one with the same stats/gears/bars/CP allocations will have the same results because of playstyle and skill level difference unless they are in a group to minimize the gap. I really don't see the point in this type of attitude. You might have had the point if your post was about playstyle but this seem like a straight up attempt at insulting the OP who may or may not even be looking for builds to play. Even if he is, no real need to bash people like them as they might have very limited playtime that they want to spend in actually playing the game instead of sitting in front of sheets and formulate for 90% of their limited time.

If you think only a few sets are viable, you obviously haven't tried using many of the sets that exist in the game. Some of those sets are far better than most PvPers think. I honestly don't think any of it is really secret, anyone can read set descriptions and find out what compensates for what they lack. It ultimately comes down to what you're willing to give up to patch the holes in your build...some things are definitely worth giving up, depending on how you play.

Hanokihs

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

On XBox, I do and yes. No matter what people say to the contrary most people simple do not move out of the way, especially while sieging or as a ball group. A person is smart, people are often not so smart. Now that I can actually freeze them in place it’s freeze, fire/lightning, proc, Ice Comet, Vicious Death, bodies at doors in piles.

Edit: it’s also great when shooting up at people on walls. It’s situational but vastly more effective than you’d expect. Made about 150k AP just running around for a few hours, not AP farming.

Interesting. On PC, even the most beginners tend to roll dodge out of Illambris or red circle. Lol.

On console, players love the red. They live for red. They dream of red, and go out early every morning to set up camp in the red, so they can spend a hard day at work worshiping the red and close their eyes to red after giving the red a little smooch on the forehead each night.

I used to question it, but now I just accept it, for I am but a simple pleb, forever casting glowy circles with a big stick.

Who am I, truly, to stand in the way of love?

IZZEFlameLash

Kadoin wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Don't feed the troll he is only looking for free builds to troll others

Exactly...

If you discover a combo thats really good, keep it to yourself...

Dont come on here giving people that are incapable of thinking build help to show how smart you are; if someone is doing that then you have no one to blame but yourself if a particular build catches on and many people start to use it (which eventually leads to nerfs)...


All of these threads like these below arent helping anyone become a better player; all you are doing is handing people crutches:

"Help me with the meta"

"Tell me whats best"

"Whats currently OP"

"Post the most OP build you can think of"


Let these kind of people figure it out for themselves; they are looking for builds that will carry them as much as possible and are too lazy (or brain dead) to think them up themselves...

They should have brains in their skulls; make these people use them...

And what's the point in so called "secrets" in this game? Only few sets are viable. Also, no one with the same stats/gears/bars/CP allocations will have the same results because of playstyle and skill level difference unless they are in a group to minimize the gap. I really don't see the point in this type of attitude. You might have had the point if your post was about playstyle but this seem like a straight up attempt at insulting the OP who may or may not even be looking for builds to play. Even if he is, no real need to bash people like them as they might have very limited playtime that they want to spend in actually playing the game instead of sitting in front of sheets and formulate for 90% of their limited time.

If you think only a few sets are viable, you obviously haven't tried using many of the sets that exist in the game. Some of those sets are far better than most PvPers think. I honestly don't think any of it is really secret, anyone can read set descriptions and find out what compensates for what they lack. It ultimately comes down to what you're willing to give up to patch the holes in your build...some things are definitely worth giving up, depending on how you play.

Only few sets are competitive and optimal. Other 'viable' sets are always ecllipsed by those few both in theory and practice. And what is optimal and competitive depends on the direction of meta the devs are shifting to. I use/used non-popular sets but doesn't mean it was optimal. They don't use these other sets not because they don't know. They just have better alternatives like pre-nerf Black Rose for their purposes in the meta. But, suit yourself. Not stopping you from using those other sets.

TheDoomsdayMonster

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

IZZEFlameLash

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

Kadoin

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

And how do you determine what is "optimized and competitive," by the fact that everyone else does it or someone told you so? Fact of the matter is, PvP still requires enough skill to make a build work and even then someone can have enough skill to make it NOT work. You can wear whatever meta you want and still get destroyed by someone that isn't. When that happens, what is "optimized and competitive" then? Don't bring up the pathetic argument of "skill levels" and state something similar to "if they were on the same skill level it wouldn't have happened." How do you know that? PvP is not PvE where you can actually determine what is the best and fight predictable, brain-dead opponents. You can and will find yourself in completely unpredictable situations where more than just the sets you wear count.

Let's not even get into "overshadowed by sets with similar functionality", have you looked at the set list? What similarity are you talking about? General idea of doing damage? General stat boost? Even Skoria, Grothdaar, Zaan, and Illambris are all situationally better than one another. Versus any "skilled player" all of those sets would be better replaced with a defensive set because you gonna die in 2-6 seconds.

IZZEFlameLash

Kadoin wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Viable =/= optimized and competitive. Illambris, as I said in that very post, most people do get out of that circle unless they are total beginners. And Illambris is very much overshadowed by: Skoria, Grothdaar and Zaan because it is placed AoE and the platform I play, people always gets out of the placed AoE. So, it may be situationally viable. And it still is not optimized or really competitive in other situations. As I said, only few sets offer distinct advantage and do not really get overshadowed by sets with similar functionality. That is why there's only few viable (in this case, competitive and optimized) set choices.

And how do you determine what is "optimized and competitive," by the fact that everyone else does it or someone told you so? Fact of the matter is, PvP still requires enough skill to make a build work and even then someone can have enough skill to make it NOT work. You can wear whatever meta you want and still get destroyed by someone that isn't. When that happens, what is "optimized and competitive" then? Don't bring up the pathetic argument of "skill levels" and state something similar to "if they were on the same skill level it wouldn't have happened." How do you know that? PvP is not PvE where you can actually determine what is the best and fight predictable, brain-dead opponents. You can and will find yourself in completely unpredictable situations where more than just the sets you wear count.

Let's not even get into "overshadowed by sets with similar functionality", have you looked at the set list? What similarity are you talking about? General idea of doing damage? General stat boost? Even Skoria, Grothdaar, Zaan, and Illambris are all situationally better than one another. Versus any "skilled player" all of those sets would be better replaced with a defensive set because you gonna die in 2-6 seconds.

As fruitless as it is, I will say this, in this game, gear does matter which is why few gear sets always form core at the heart of competitive (meaning, competitive in almost every situations). Unoptimized/uncompetitive sets as I said are 'viable' but overshadowed in performance by similar but better sets. Like Truth outclasses Senche for example. You may get very specialized build outside of those sets that is good at handful of situation but that really isn't exactly competitive. Which is why we see a convergence into few sets as core part of the builds used by very skilled players. Skills now is basically a fraction. If you don't think gear matters all that much, then refer to defile/bleed and proc meta. Tell me how successful you are without proper gear setup for bleeds on people who are decent players for example.

Skoria/Zaan/Grothdaar >>>>>>>>>>>> Illambris for PvP. Illambris is literally only good against people who like to stay in the red without thinking of moving out of it. If I see you using Illambris, I will consider you a very easy target and it always had been the case. There's a reason why this is limited to PvE usage in theorycrafting. Try tell good players with offensive gameplay to not use Skoria or Zaan. You won't be able to get them off of it. As they also tend to build for defense more. Illambris fails in most of PvP environments provided that enemies are even slightly competent.

Lexxypwns

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

People use Illambris in PvP and people die to it??

LoL...

But you said only a few sets in this game were viable...

Dude there are ALOT of viable sets out there that are fully viable...

But of course you gotta be able to be able to think and simutaneously be creative to realize it...

Just for the record, and this is not a knock on @THEDKEXPERIENCE but he is Zerg surfing in this anecdote and literally anything is viable in those situations. Again, this is not a criticism of that playstyle whatsoever, just a true statement.

Betsararie

Something involving a stam warden which is still the most OP class.