Sordidfairytale wrote: »

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Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Faulgor , netch's will boost all but pet damage and curse, so it depends a lot on your skill loadout and CP distribution.

I tend to get higher parses with Netch / MD vs Necro / MD, but I'm also CP specc'd for it.

It comes down to how much damage you're getting from Heavy/Light attacks vs that from pets.

Spell Damage will buff LA/HA a lot more than magicka will (about 40 to 1)

Spell Damage will do basically nothing for pet damage (the modifier is so small, it may as well be zero).

Regarding all other skills, Max stat and Spell Damage are basically interchangable, at a ratio of 10.5 Stat = 1 Spell Damage and vice versa.

So it depends on the build and your personal playstyle/timing. If you have both, use the one that gives you consistently higher numbers.

Excellent points, but to add to the thought.

Max Magicka will improve your ward. Spell damage will not.
Max Magicka will also improve your heal from the matriarch (if you chose that). Spell damage will not.
So if you find yourself being a bit squishy or relying on heals a lot, consider that.

@Sordidfairytale , true, but in regard to the ward, this really only becomes an issue in PvP (where shield values are halved.)

If you're using Hardened, you're already getting an additional 33%. You can also boost the base value via CP's. It becomes a little more prevalent if you're using Empowered.

In short, any greater shield value than what gets burned up in 6/10 seconds is potentially wasted Spell Damage, and in any build, LA/HA are going have a place.

Equally, with the Matriarch, it is a larger heal, but often it will be large enough, even with meager magicka stat values, especially when coupled with the ward above.

It's generally much easier to add additional max stat than it is to add more Spell Damage. The trick is to find a balance with the build that works for you and your playstyle, then fine tune from there.

So long as you know which skills are affected primarily by which value, you can adjust however you need to.

Excellent points, overall.

EDIT: To be fair, Harness also scales with max stat. Beyond a certain point, it will cost less than it returns if someone is silly enough to feed you spell projectiles.

Anyway, hope this helps!

Updated for Summerset Isles patch. Enjoy : )

So, thief mundus might actually work better for this build. Still testing. Will update as I find out more.

For this build yes because it scales off max resources.

ajaxtheboss wrote: »

https://imgur.com/a/Xvg9JpH

I'm at 45.5k(on 3 mil) with a double heavy attack rotation, i think this is about where it caps out.

Would've liked to push higher.

5 Siroria
5 Necro
2 Zaan
Thief mundus

Ill try your rotation tonight, unstable blockade and other morph of liquid lightning might be promising.

Results?

Gprime31 wrote: »

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ajaxtheboss wrote: »

https://imgur.com/a/Xvg9JpH

I'm at 45.5k(on 3 mil) with a double heavy attack rotation, i think this is about where it caps out.

Would've liked to push higher.

5 Siroria
5 Necro
2 Zaan
Thief mundus

Ill try your rotation tonight, unstable blockade and other morph of liquid lightning might be promising.

Results?

So with the 1 heavy rotation, i had to swap to witchmother. With ele susceptibility i was hitting 45.3k on 3mil and 43.9 on 6 mil.

I also had level 1 unstable wall.

Once I max unstable wall, have someone ele drain for me, and i'm able to use blue max mag/max health food, I think 47k is possible on 3mil.

I think in a raid setup, this will be the harder hitting setup as long as bosses are ele drained/you're getting orbs.

Need updated version of this please!