magNB - Gear Choices with change to 2h weapons. What's everyone running?

Metemsycosis · June 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Caluurions+ wyrd tree+ bloodspawn (or whatevs) is what I intend so very soon. Gonna want that purify and resto ulti. Massive burst, a defense against sloads+ and higher mitigation. Mage or atronauch mundus. Cloak will be fine.

Trust me, Wyrd tree is awful. Legitimately terrible.

You’re better off running efficient purge because at least then you can have an inadequate purge on demand instead of tied to an oppressive cooldown

It is an oppressive cooldown. No matter. Amber + sloads + skoria to The Rescue.

ChefZero · June 2018

Mechanical Acuity, Bloodthorn and Skoria (Zaan also possible)

I have restro, destro, 2h and S&B. Most time destro + S&b for zerg surfing and 2h + restro for small scale. With 5 heavy armor and bloodthorn you have a good amount of hidden reg on stamina and magicka (in fight of course). It's a very flexible setup, only contra is MA effect only off-heal of siphoning, restro healing could be stronger with more focus on max magicka or mag damage.

Datthaw · June 2018

In bgs I play around with a support ice staff/resto build, running 5 winterborn 5 trans 2 skoria 1 asylum ice staff with all tri glyphs. This setup give me amazing zone control, snares out the wazoo and has a good amount of damage
Bars are ele blockade, mercy, refreshing path, force pulse, destructive reach, soul tether
Back bar healing ward, dampen mag, fear, siphon strikes, degen, resto ult

In cyro I have been running a 2h resto build, pretty standard 2 zaan, 5 shackle, 5 lich, 1 torugs greatsword for the 2pc spell damage.
Bars are usually forward momentum, mercy, cloak, concealed, cripple, incap
Back bar healing ward, siphon strike, fear, swallow soul, degen, resto ult. This build is a squishy kite build, total cloak abuse.
Destro resto builds in cyro are pretty much the same as my duel builds

When it comes to duels I will run either shackle/necro/skoria or shackle/lich/skoria. But I have been known to put on my ice build just for the lols
Bars are cripple, mercy bow, refreshing path, swallow soul, flame reach, incap
Back bar healing ward, dampen magic, shadow image, siphon strikes, degen, resto ult

All these setups have worked well for me, and almost....ALMOST....hide my inner scrub.

Lexxypwns · June 2018

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Caluurions+ wyrd tree+ bloodspawn (or whatevs) is what I intend so very soon. Gonna want that purify and resto ulti. Massive burst, a defense against sloads+ and higher mitigation. Mage or atronauch mundus. Cloak will be fine.

Trust me, Wyrd tree is awful. Legitimately terrible.

You’re better off running efficient purge because at least then you can have an inadequate purge on demand instead of tied to an oppressive cooldown

It is an oppressive cooldown. No matter. Amber + sloads + skoria to The Rescue.

I’m not proud of it, but I made a set of Wyrd tree gold before because I wanted it to work so badly. I kept ignoring the issues I was having because “hey a purge solves all my problems”

The times when it works like you need are such an awesome thing but it’s just too hard to control and the cooldown may as well be forever when you’re outnumbered

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2018

Haven’t had a ton of time to play but will be heavily nerding out this weekend as the wife goes out of town. Hopefully @Lexxypwns will be able to get some magblade BG action going with me

I got a sloads setup last night for BGs paired with necro and skoria and did pretty well in the match I got in. I definitely noticed like what Lexxy mentioned here or another thread, you want your 5 piece sloads on that front bar for optimal proc control, I ran 5 body when I first tried it and it was just meh. Also open world I was messing with 5 shackle, 5 necro, skoria / bloodspawn and was having a blast solo. Light attack weaving is so fluid with swallow soul I never knew how many bow procs I was missing. Still have a few more things I’d like to try out and will report back after this weekend.

Metemsycosis · June 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Caluurions+ wyrd tree+ bloodspawn (or whatevs) is what I intend so very soon. Gonna want that purify and resto ulti. Massive burst, a defense against sloads+ and higher mitigation. Mage or atronauch mundus. Cloak will be fine.

Trust me, Wyrd tree is awful. Legitimately terrible.

You’re better off running efficient purge because at least then you can have an inadequate purge on demand instead of tied to an oppressive cooldown

It is an oppressive cooldown. No matter. Amber + sloads + skoria to The Rescue.

I’m not proud of it, but I made a set of Wyrd tree gold before because I wanted it to work so badly. I kept ignoring the issues I was having because “hey a purge solves all my problems”

The times when it works like you need are such an awesome thing but it’s just too hard to control and the cooldown may as well be forever when you’re outnumbered

Golded it out? Whew. I havent golded armor ever. (Might do skoria maybe someday)

I ended up running efficient purge and it's not even bad when used to stop stuff like poison inject, sloads, curse. Not so good at stopping snares (like mist or forward momentum, which I'm leveling towards now) but I'm finding situational awareness is greater than a skill slot in this regard. For the moment I'm legit tearing it up in bgs with this set up and haven't even played with the updated shade yet! Pushing almost 37k max magicka in no cp. Lotus, tether, concealed, impale impale impale.

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

@HEBREWHAMMERRR - did they fix the swallow soul weave? Is it smoother now?

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2018

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@HEBREWHAMMERRR - did they fix the swallow soul weave? Is it smoother now?

Yeah! They fixed the animation so the light attack weaves are so fluid now. No joke I was shocked at the increased uptime on my bows with the change. Very great quality of life change for magblade. Also didn’t mention it in my previous post but with shadow image no longer needing a target Necro is sooo damn good! The nerfs do hurt our sustain but these quality of life changes are excellent.

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

I was running shadow image last night for the first time as it's always been kinda clunky and purge was more on-demand. It is a complete game changer!! Was kiting all around a dude and it took him a good 5min to figure out what I was doing. Twas too fun!!

Insanely excited about the swallow soul weave! Thx dude! Appreciate you improving my ESO experience:)

barshemm · June 2018

I'm converting my Stam nightblade to magicka now after bringing my DC one out to play for a bit.

Right now I'm leaning towards spinners, riposte and troll king destro/resto. Hate to say it but the tk is pretty much to try and counter sloads. If I can figure out a spot for it I might try getting mutagen on my resto bar for some extra purge and hot.

Still have a ways to go leveling up staffs, doing the main story to get soul assault as well. In the past I've always done melee magblade. Want to try a ranged one.

I also still have my vicious death to switch to in keep defense or zerg surfing. Race is argonian, should be interesting for a magblade.

Metemsycosis · June 2018

I'm glowing about vicious death. On magsorc, anyway. Inevitable, curse, fury, soul assault: still mulling over how to be semisustainable and retain the disturbing levels of burst. (Magnbs are amazingly sustainable, in comparison, imo)

Knootewoot · June 2018

I wear Skoria/WarMaiden and Kragnerac's hope.

Krag gives good damage (a bit less then julianos) and also provides some sustain/health

Crits i have around 50% when i also use magelight which seem to work most of the times.

I wanted Amberplasm, but i don't get any drops

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

@thankyourat - I appreciate the feedback as I definitely had some limitations that I wasn't taking into consideration.

Switched to 2h/resto and it started off disastrous. Usually I do pretty well on K/D in BGs with destro/resto. 2h was super tough (3 - 16 over 3 matches) and I was about to switch back but decided to tough it out.

Fast forward 2 hours later and I started getting the hang of it. FM is absolutely amazing with cloak!! Started performing really well.

Open world was amazing fun as I was dropping tons of people solo. Only dies twice. Once to a zerg (my fault for being over aggressive) and a 1v3 where I got stuck in a revealing flare spam and was burned down.

Here is my set up:

Gear - shackle, war maiden, grothdaar (skorioa instead?)

Front: concealed, cloak, FM, cripple, mercy, Soul Harvest(prefer damage amp over stun since running war maiden. fear and concealed are hard CC)

Back: lotus, fear (use those back-to-back when grothdaar procs from cripple spam), purge, shrewd offering, healing ward, rest ult

Thanks for responses and there is a lot to figure out.

Still want to try heavy armor build from @Lexxypwns but haven't farmed the gear yet

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

@HEBREWHAMMERRR I couldn't get the hang of the new swallow soul weave. Probably should have tried for longer so I'll give it a try again.

2h light/concealed weave was butter baby! Playstyle is fast and fun too.

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2018

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@HEBREWHAMMERRR I couldn't get the hang of the new swallow soul weave. Probably should have tried for longer so I'll give it a try again.

2h light/concealed weave was butter baby! Playstyle is fast and fun too.

Yeah I was trying a little last night, plan on playing all weekend. Had an idea for a 2H / resto setup with sloads on resto bar/buff bar, proc sloads and go in for burst, run spinners 2H front bar and maybe bloodspawn w/ incap. Just an idea but I’ll be doing a lot of testing this weekend.

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

@HEBREWHAMMERRR - I imagine you're on PC? I'm on Xbox. Would be cool to collaborate.

Akinos · June 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Caluurions+ wyrd tree+ bloodspawn (or whatevs) is what I intend so very soon. Gonna want that purify and resto ulti. Massive burst, a defense against sloads+ and higher mitigation. Mage or atronauch mundus. Cloak will be fine.

Trust me, Wyrd tree is awful. Legitimately terrible.

You’re better off running efficient purge because at least then you can have an inadequate purge on demand instead of tied to an oppressive cooldown

Wyrd tree is good when it's not on both bars. I ran it on my DK's back bar for a few days with willpower on front. Very easy to control the purify effect on it like that. Basically just swap bars when you get heal debuffed and cast something.

Akinos · June 2018

Also, my new universal build that should work on all magicka classes, pic is of magblade stats though:

I can't say what it is yet because I'm still finalizing some details about it, however I will say that it's self buffed in stealth, no pots on.

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

@Akinos - damn....tell me more lol

DomiNate4NB · June 2018

Looks like necro, trainee with double single monster

memofin · June 2018

Has anyone tried out that argonian, clever alchemist, infused potion build?

Maulkin · June 2018

If you’re gonna play 2h

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@thankyourat - I appreciate the feedback as I definitely had some limitations that I wasn't taking into consideration.

Switched to 2h/resto and it started off disastrous. Usually I do pretty well on K/D in BGs with destro/resto. 2h was super tough (3 - 16 over 3 matches) and I was about to switch back but decided to tough it out.

Fast forward 2 hours later and I started getting the hang of it. FM is absolutely amazing with cloak!! Started performing really well.

Open world was amazing fun as I was dropping tons of people solo. Only dies twice. Once to a zerg (my fault for being over aggressive) and a 1v3 where I got stuck in a revealing flare spam and was burned down.

Here is my set up:

Gear - shackle, war maiden, grothdaar (skorioa instead?)

Front: concealed, cloak, FM, cripple, mercy, Soul Harvest(prefer damage amp over stun since running war maiden. fear and concealed are hard CC)

Back: lotus, fear (use those back-to-back when grothdaar procs from cripple spam), purge, shrewd offering, healing ward, rest ult

Thanks for responses and there is a lot to figure out.

Still want to try heavy armor build from @Lexxypwns but haven't farmed the gear yet

I think Blobs' 2H build is a better template to start from. It needs some adjustments cause he hasn't revised it post Summerset but it's a better place to start from.

I would ditch War Maiden for Spinners on the front bar personally. And I wouldn't use Lotus or Shrewd Offering but Dampen Magic and one of Shadow Image, Rapid Regen (with vMA resto) or Siphoning Attacks instead. Your survivability will go up a lot. You're currently in light armor but without a shield that you can use unless you're at near execute range.

Datthaw · June 2018

memofin wrote: »

Has anyone tried out that argonian, clever alchemist, infused potion build?

I want to, clever alch seems like such a versatile set. What really throws me ff with it is how expensive a build would be with constant pot chugging. Would probably have to use aalliance war pots

ShadowMonarch · June 2018

Akinos wrote: »

Also, my new universal build that should work on all magicka classes, pic is of magblade stats though:

I can't say what it is yet because I'm still finalizing some details about it, however I will say that it's self buffed in stealth, no pots on.

Look forward to seeing it!

HEBREWHAMMERRR · June 2018

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@HEBREWHAMMERRR - I imagine you're on PC? I'm on Xbox. Would be cool to collaborate.

I’m on XboxNA, GT: HEBREW HAMMERRR

Kaysha · June 2018

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@thankyourat - I appreciate the feedback as I definitely had some limitations that I wasn't taking into consideration.

Switched to 2h/resto and it started off disastrous. Usually I do pretty well on K/D in BGs with destro/resto. 2h was super tough (3 - 16 over 3 matches) and I was about to switch back but decided to tough it out.

Fast forward 2 hours later and I started getting the hang of it. FM is absolutely amazing with cloak!! Started performing really well.

Open world was amazing fun as I was dropping tons of people solo. Only dies twice. Once to a zerg (my fault for being over aggressive) and a 1v3 where I got stuck in a revealing flare spam and was burned down.

Here is my set up:

Gear - shackle, war maiden, grothdaar (skorioa instead?)

Front: concealed, cloak, FM, cripple, mercy, Soul Harvest(prefer damage amp over stun since running war maiden. fear and concealed are hard CC)

Back: lotus, fear (use those back-to-back when grothdaar procs from cripple spam), purge, shrewd offering, healing ward, rest ult

Thanks for responses and there is a lot to figure out.

Still want to try heavy armor build from @Lexxypwns but haven't farmed the gear yet

Just drop Lotus on your backbar and replace it with strife. Weave strife on restobar top proc merciless

Lexxypwns · June 2018

Kaysha wrote: »

DomiNate4NB wrote: »

@thankyourat - I appreciate the feedback as I definitely had some limitations that I wasn't taking into consideration.

Switched to 2h/resto and it started off disastrous. Usually I do pretty well on K/D in BGs with destro/resto. 2h was super tough (3 - 16 over 3 matches) and I was about to switch back but decided to tough it out.

Fast forward 2 hours later and I started getting the hang of it. FM is absolutely amazing with cloak!! Started performing really well.

Open world was amazing fun as I was dropping tons of people solo. Only dies twice. Once to a zerg (my fault for being over aggressive) and a 1v3 where I got stuck in a revealing flare spam and was burned down.

Here is my set up:

Gear - shackle, war maiden, grothdaar (skorioa instead?)

Front: concealed, cloak, FM, cripple, mercy, Soul Harvest(prefer damage amp over stun since running war maiden. fear and concealed are hard CC)

Back: lotus, fear (use those back-to-back when grothdaar procs from cripple spam), purge, shrewd offering, healing ward, rest ult

Thanks for responses and there is a lot to figure out.

Still want to try heavy armor build from @Lexxypwns but haven't farmed the gear yet

Just drop Lotus on your backbar and replace it with strife. Weave strife on restobar top proc merciless

Imo, he’d be better suited putting cripple in that lotus slot so that he can get his magika flood passive on back bar and weave that to proc merciless since it will give impeccable fight control. Then he can fit Acceleration on front bar for the minor force+major expedition and push his burst to higher levels.

I feel very strongly that Destro+2h is superior 2h/resto now that we can use dark cloak as a burst heal. But then you need multiple Mageblades leveled so you can have access to Shadowy Disguise for other builds

MrDenimChicken · June 2018

I've played 2h magblade a ton now and here is the build I think is top tier:

for more of a gank build that is really slippery and packs a huge punch, go caluurions/necro/zaan. You can switch out necro for shacklebreaker too. I run necro now though since shade is so awesome now.

But since shade is so awesome now, running 2h isn't quite as necessary for me though. I've tried switching the caluurions out for warmaiden and going destro/retro and it's also super effective. probably a better duel build too.

NightbladeMechanics · June 2018

I'm back to running my old destro juggerblade style. Heavy armor healy pew pew builds do nicely into proc set cancer. Vid inc o/

Sarjako · June 2018

2 builds I enjoy... using the same equipment typically. Spinners, Caluurions and Valkyn Skoria or substitute for another damage set like necropotence or vicious death. For the 2H /Resto build I swap the monster sets for either 1 PC Chudan / I PC Pirate Skel, 2PC Pirate or 2PC Grothdarr.

Destro / Restro

Cloak / Crippling Grasp / Mage Light ( PVP ) / Destro Reach / Force Pulse Ult: Shooting Star
Purge / Resto DMG Shield / Harness Magicka / Merciless Resolve / [[[[[Impale / Swallow Soul / Mass Hysteria / Shade]]]]] [ Incap Strike ]

OR

2H/Resto

Forward Momentum / Crippling / Mage Light / Lotus Fan / Concealed Weapon Ult: Soul Harvest
NB Evade skill / Resto DMG Shield / Harness Magicka / Mass Hysteria / Shade Ult: Support Shield or Soul Tether.