I partially disagree. On launch day I was running around the map, not looking for crafting materials specifically, and within the first hour I had 8-9 nodes found.

What I agree with is, what someone else wrote in an other thread: After launch on live it will be very hard to gather those materials because way more players will compete for those nodes. There I see frustration coming up since it will take long, especially for ppl who cant play all day or during uncrowded times.

I dont know if there is a possibility to dynamically increase amount of nodes spawning depending on how many players are online (not counting each one ofc, but like every 100), but this would be a solution for that which makes it rare in all times.

I've found only 1 in Summerset, and I've explored a lot of the map.

Asardes wrote: »

They probably want to have less nodes, and thus make people grind more, so they play the content for longer and don't notice how superficial and empty it really is. I'm starting to get sick and tired of this artificial rarity that makes you run for hours on a make-believe treadmill. Looking at this it looks more efficient to just grind dolmens with a maximum level character, and simply decon the jewels that drop there for skill level up and materials after launch. It's boring but at least you get a guaranteed "ingot" for every piece of jewelry and some inspiration from deconning it and there are zones where you can cycle through all 3 dolmens in 5-6 minutes.

Accept you can't get gold mats that way...

Cas

Asardes wrote: »

Castielle wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

They probably want to have less nodes, and thus make people grind more, so they play the content for longer and don't notice how superficial and empty it really is. I'm starting to get sick and tired of this artificial rarity that makes you run for hours on a make-believe treadmill. Looking at this it looks more efficient to just grind dolmens with a maximum level character, and simply decon the jewels that drop there for skill level up and materials after launch. It's boring but at least you get a guaranteed "ingot" for every piece of jewelry and some inspiration from deconning it and there are zones where you can cycle through all 3 dolmens in 5-6 minutes.

Accept you can't get gold mats that way...

Cas

For those there's always that ~20 minutes vAA HM with guild mates for 2 pieces of gold jewelry. I'd say that's a much safer bet than refining, by looking at the odds from other materials. You only get roughly 1 gold temper per stack, but deconstructing gold gear from leaderboards (you get a lot of silly combos like Inferno staff of ... Eternal Yokeda) I always get a gold temper back. It's basically impossible to collect 2 stacks of jewelry materials and refine them in 20 minutes and get 2 tempers from them, considering the stated rarity.

2 gold rings won't give you 2 tempers either, it gives you 1/5 th of a temper at max...

So far out of hours of exploring I've only come across one. This is beyond unreasonable, especially considering come launch those who have mapped out the spawn locations will hold the monopoly on the nodes. It's like chest farming in Vvardenfell all over again.

Increase the amount of nodes.

I've see about three in Summerset proper, and I was wondering how much of that was node rarity and how much of that was that the nodes look like slightly shiny but otherwise indistinguishable blobs. I admit I haven't spent much time looking for them though.

For those of you having trouble finding nodes on Summerset, have you checked other zones?

Node spawns definitely felt lower. It didn't feel too bad in the thieves guild area, but it felt pretty bad in Rivenspire, Craglorn, and Gold Coast. The big issue is with upgrades costing 8 times as much as armor and nodes being about 50-66% less common you will have to harvest for 16-24 times longer just to upgrade rings and necks.

Other issue I found is that even with the keen eye skill trained the nodes blended in with the background a lot of the time. All the other crafting nodes show up as red except for alchemy mats. The bland white color of the platinum nodes tended to be harder to spot.

I refined 1600 materials and I got back 13 gold grains. Following that average it would take about 11,000 ore to upgrade one piece of jewelry. I was able to harvest about 80 ore in 30 minutes, which actually seemed a bit lucky. At this rate it would take around 70 hours of harvesting to upgrade one piece of jewelry.

I believe either the amount of grains to make one plating needs to come down or the node rate needs to be increased a lot. I realize this isn't meant to be as easy to make as gold armor and weapons, but it shouldn't be this insane.

I would recommend doubling the node rate and dropping the amount of grains required for plating to 3 or 4 max. In closing gold jewelry is already a bit of a luxury so don't freak out at the initial findings.

schattenkind wrote: »

I still see a danger in general increase of the jewelerey material nodes, because ppl who play more or can play in times with less players online will in certain way still have monopoly on the materials.

Just imagine you playing only evenings during full server load, even with a increase you wont get much out. On the other hand a number of players who play in the mornings will have a lot more nodes to harvest.

There should be some kind of mechanism that gives every player (nearly) the same chances to get materials, thats the real solution. General increasing of nodes wont help those who cant play in good times, but those who can.
Therefore my suggestion is to adapt node spawning to online player count, which is without doubt better, than increasing generally.

It does not matter if the amounts gained are high or low. The same people will remain with the same percentage above others that have less time to play.

The game is about get rewarded for your time in the game doing things, make it a level reward for all per day no matter your effort. That will kill the game fast.

IDK what to think of the extra grind for jewelry mats and especially the extra grind for upgrade mats.

This is the second new craft that has been introduced after the game's original 6. You can sort of see the reasoning behind the furniture crafting excessive mats requirement nonsense (it's obnoxious but you can see the reasoning) since crafted furniture is a direct competitor with crown shop furniture sales.

But what's the reasoning behind making jewelry crafting and upgrading extra grindy both in gathering and in decon upgrade mat results on top of already making all pre-Summerset jewelry not decon? I mean there is no cash shop competition here (as far as we know so far.) It just feels like a random extra grind for no particular good reason on par with giving ridiculously low limit to the max number of transmutation stones you can have saved.

It just seems ill-conceived to me and a symptom of shallow developmental thinking.

I'm assuming Jewelry Crafting stations & resources will be made available across all game maps after Summerset goes live? Or will this remain exclusive to the Summerset map? Also, will it be available generally, or only to those who purchase content?

The craft stations and nodes are throughout the game, certification might only be in Summerset though.

There aren't many in Summerset, but I tested out one of my usual harvesting routes and there were tons of them.

My worry is that because about 1/3 of ore nodes now randomly spawn as jewelry nodes, that there is going to be insufficient ore pickup when harvesting, and higher rarity of blacksmithing tempers as a result.