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Game has become too flashy!
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✭✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »The title says it all.
Raid groups look like a gathering of parade mascots, every player has a personal Tinkerbell pet buzzing around their head and mounts look trial bosses.
I was not playing the game at launch, but started just before the crown store release. Even back then the game looked so much more beautiful (if you look at the videos). People used undyed breton armour and rode brown or white horses!
I get that people want to look "special" but Zos catering to these demands has turned TESO into "lord of the rings meets Avatar". A guy using pink Dro-M'Athra armour astride a red glowing ghost horse, looks like a vision from a skooma induced nightmare! Idk it has gone too far.
I know this will probably never happen, but if ZOS could just tone it down a bit, or better yet, add a toggle to display everyone in vanilla armour and with normal mounts that would be awesome. Might also help performance.
Its all about the Benjamins now.1 -
veloSylraptor✭✭✭- People can use ignore lists and bans however they want. That's just the thing - whatever they consider offensive is reason enough for banning/ignoring. I'm not condoning or condemning it, I'm just explaining how things are, and why that makes the perspective counter to yours more than reasonable.
And yet none of those uses of bans and ignores lists is going to misrepresent people or change how they look, simply preventing their speech from showing up or ban them from the game. You are conflating different mechanics that do different things to suggest that doing this particular thing is likely to already be supported. If you look around the thread you will find that no, most of the consensus is that this is the OP's personal problem and not the game's to solve.[*]Be constructive to finding a solution for the OP's problem, don't come in here saying, "No! I'm more important! Your problem doesn't matter because it will negatively affect me!" You have concerns for your own enjoyment of the game, so express those, but don't just try to say that OP isn't allowed to have their concerns as well. Try to find a middle ground, or an alternative fix, maybe.
Except, I have, I have tried offering understanding and solutions that don't infringe on other players fun. The OP fail to address those and simply dismiss them out of hand. Also, again with the double standard here, is the OP not doing the exact same thing? Opening a thread saying "Other people dressing differently disturbs [/b]me[/b]!" Why the double standard?
Since when are forum posts only allowed for the purpose of compromise or seeking a deal? Why not just to oppose like a lot of people here already do?[*]Sorry, but I don't see how any of your posts in this block of quotes say anything that might help solve the OP's problem.
Again, since when are forum posts only allowed for the purpose of compromise or seeking a deal? Why not just to oppose like a lot of people here already do? Are we always supposed to support any OPs? maybe try negotiate and water it down if we disapprove? Why aren't we able to simply oppose?
Also, in that block of post has any of the OP's post acknowledged and show understanding of the opposing position? I think not. Simply dismissiveness and assumptions of how people should think and react to the OPs suggestion.
If the OP cannot accept that different people are different, and that different people are not them, I don't know how else to help.[*]I'm only addressing you because you're the only one responding directly to me. If I feel the urge to comment on someone else's words I will, and if someone addresses me I'd be happy to respond to them. ...Is that weird? I don't think so, but if it is, please let me know.
Fair enough, except, I will still call out all the particular double standards that are implied intentionally or not in such posts. Because the answer is no, I will not be held to a higher standard that no one else is held to.[*]I'm not trying to be combative - I'm just trying to explain what our goals here should be. We should be trying to help each other, not just saying "no".
Again, no, there is no such goals. I agree that it would be nice to help each other, I tried. But at some point if people are so diametrically opposed, then they simply have opposing positions of interest, nothing to be done about that. Concerns about performance as brought up by some in this thread could be solved by lower detail meshes and lower resolution textures, no need to misrepresent people over that.
Also, just to be clear, I don't see you as combative, I know you're just trying to help and bring people together. Hopefully come out with a solution that would be preferable to all (or at least most).
Lastly, look around the thread. I have afforded more acknowledgement and understanding to the OP's position that a lot of posts here that tend to be more dismissive. What more is expected of me here? That I agree with the OP's position? Cause that expectation is going nowhere.Edited by veloSylraptor on June 1, 2018 2:27AM1 -
IXxIronWolfxXI✭✭✭Whilst my character isn't using flashy stop sign colours, my mount certainly is rather exotic..
I do agree with your points however as well as the points of others in this thread. I think 3 toggles should be added in settings that will resolve the issues and up performance too.
-Hide player dyes
-Hide player pets
-Make player mounts default (horse)0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think folks should mind their own bee’s wax. If I plunk down my monies for an outfit I can wear what I like.2 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The amount of draconian, unpleasant measures they'd have to impose on this game to keep it from being immersion-breaking is astronomical. I'm not nearly as bothered by weird skins or flashy mounts as I am by people dueling on top of me in a crafting area or inside the bank, or by people throwing an exploding bird. Talk about making the world look ridiculous.
With the warden cliff racers I see it like this - to me this is not an actual cliff racer, but a mixed conjuration/illusion spell, which is an actual magic attack of a summoned minion disguised as a cliff racer due to the illusion part of the spell. You see a cliff racer attacking at an unnormal dive speed, while in fact it is a minion from another plain, temporarily summoned to excute this attack. It's unnatural high dive speed makes me think like this - a normal cliff racer couldn't attack dive that fast.
Not those, the memento one where people literally (digitally) throw a bird at you and it hits with a squawk and a squelching noise and an explosion of red. They throw a bird hard enough at you to kill it. It's gross, and just as stupid as mudballs.Edited by Minyassa on June 1, 2018 3:03AM0 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think it would be awesome if they added a toggle that allowed people to mask out all the non-vanilla graphics. That would open the door to them adding other toggles, like one to opt out of involuntary emotes like mudballing. I would pay crowns for that toggle. Hell, I would pay expansion costs for that toggle.1 -
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✭Elder Scrolls is a high fantasy game so the effects are appropriate. Been playing Skyrim though I have to say I prefer its cleaner and more realistic outlook.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Elder Scrolls is a high fantasy game so the effects are appropriate. Been playing Skyrim though I have to say I prefer its cleaner and more realistic outlook.
High fantasy does not mean cartoon. But I think that's what MMOs are to most players: virtual cartoons. That's why they call characters toons.
I don't really care. I prefer actual high fantasy a la Dragonlance or every other TES game, but whatever.
My main concern is the performance impact from all the asset management the client has to do. So it would be nice to disable at least some of it. I like to play with high sensitivity mouse settings (3200 dpi) so micro stutter sucks.
But hey, people wouldn't gamble for loud mounts if everyone else didn't have to see and hear them.Edited by zyk on June 1, 2018 5:28AM2 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I LOVE how fashionable everyone suddenly became.
The glowing mounts and random pets are an eyesore to me, though.
It all depends, I like the nix-hound pet - a lovely little critter from Morrowind. I like it's motions and it's cracklng sounds and it lets me feel good to have it around when I am adventuring. But I give you that most of the glowing mounts are much too much on the glowing side now.
I like to have the Sylvan Nyxad - when I have to do a lot of surveys, he's a funny little chatterbox!2 -
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PC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything3 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just bought that new brightly colored Guar... So there op..
I wouldn't consider that to be "flashy" - nothing is flashing or glowing on the mount - it just has "blue coral snake" colors, but not just these snakes are colored like this in real world nature, there are a lot of others, which have a pretty similar color scheme.2 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here.
I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake0 -
Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Damn & I was thinking it was still far too puritanical with far too little flashing
Garish or gaudy would be the terms I'd use for the current art direction!
I'd love a change ...“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy1 -
dodgehopper_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm happy we can make those ghastly Rubedite weapons look like regular steel again. I tend to opt toward a more realistic look with occasional magical bling. A good example is my use of the Frostcaller style recolored with a proper chain mail coloration. It actually looks pretty cool in my view despite those little dangly magical ice bits.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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Cambruin✭✭✭I agree wholeheartedly.
People wearing pink armour, riding mounts that lack any and all credibility, having floating red and blue orbs, being followed by daedric 'pets' using jester personalities. I mean serisously? You have this rich and immersive, hand-crafted world and this is how you let people inhabit it?
Two things top my wanted list;
* Allow us to toggle cosmetics pets on/off and possibly even allow us to completely choose which effects we'd like to show/hide, from cosmetic armour to active skills and beyond.
* Crate a RPing layer. I don't care much for reoleplaying myself, I'm no native speaker (guess that shows, sorry) but I always went to RP servers because they provide the best possible experience. On that particular layer every cosmetic option is disabled. No outfit 1 or 2, no cosmetic pets, no personalities (or at least, not the immersion-breaking ones), no rediculous skins, ...
I love this game, it's the absolute best, but despite LotRO being in such a horrid state I did recently reinstall simply because I wish to sit back and relax. Not experience an epileptic seizure every time one of those 'cool kids' runs by.Edited by Cambruin on June 3, 2018 11:28AM1 -
Ectheliontnacil✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
REEEEEEEE!!!
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GizmoX64✭✭I'd love an option to:
1. Hide all player pets. Including Sorcerer "pets" via skill.
2. Use generic Player models.* Like in the player creation screen, there is Light, Medium, Heavy, Male, Female. Have those default and override all player models.
3. Use generic player mounts, set to default horses.
All client side, or only viewed by me (client).
This would make the game more generic, but save on overhead, and save my sanity as far as pets go.1 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
REEEEEEEE!!!
^^
Well, you must've survived it. You posted. Heh.
That is one hell of a garish guar, for sure.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake0 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
Why do you think it's excessive?
There's lore behind the color scheme as well:
Like other reptilian creatures, Guar can be bred for bright, even gaudy colors. The Argonians of Dhalmora offer this entertaining variant, a popular performer in Tamriel's traveling shows.
It's more realistic than all those supernatural mounts like the true ghost horse, the bloodstead wraith steed, the storm atronach and wild hunt mounts, and the golden sparkly imperial horse?
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DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
Why do you think it's excessive?
There's lore behind the color scheme as well:
Like other reptilian creatures, Guar can be bred for bright, even gaudy colors. The Argonians of Dhalmora offer this entertaining variant, a popular performer in Tamriel's traveling shows.
It's more realistic than all those supernatural mounts like the true ghost horse, the bloodstead wraith steed, the storm atronach and wild hunt mounts, and the golden sparkly imperial horse?
Why? Because it makes me want to reach for sunglasses.
It may very well be within lore but that doesn't mean it's not excessively garish.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake0 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
Why do you think it's excessive?
There's lore behind the color scheme as well:
Like other reptilian creatures, Guar can be bred for bright, even gaudy colors. The Argonians of Dhalmora offer this entertaining variant, a popular performer in Tamriel's traveling shows.
It's more realistic than all those supernatural mounts like the true ghost horse, the bloodstead wraith steed, the storm atronach and wild hunt mounts, and the golden sparkly imperial horse?
Why? Because it makes me want to reach for sunglasses.
It may very well be within lore but that doesn't mean it's not excessively garish.
Poor guar. That's how they were born.
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DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
When I saw this in the store all I could think of was the OP here. I hope his head didn't explode because even I think this one is...well...excessive.
Why do you think it's excessive?
There's lore behind the color scheme as well:
Like other reptilian creatures, Guar can be bred for bright, even gaudy colors. The Argonians of Dhalmora offer this entertaining variant, a popular performer in Tamriel's traveling shows.
It's more realistic than all those supernatural mounts like the true ghost horse, the bloodstead wraith steed, the storm atronach and wild hunt mounts, and the golden sparkly imperial horse?
Why? Because it makes me want to reach for sunglasses.
It may very well be within lore but that doesn't mean it's not excessively garish.
Poor guar. That's how they were born.
I doubt my opinion of them really matters to them.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake0 -
Darrett✭✭✭✭The only part that really bugs me are the floating orbs around everyone, mainly because it makes things too busy when you have a lot of people on the screen.0
