(NA) Toxicity in PvP community reaching CRITICAL LEVELS

Juhasow · May 2018

This thread is toxic.

montjie · May 2018

Retired PC EU Sotha Sil DC zone general here...( my faction DOES suck!!!)

Nah but on a more serious note, I don't get the issue here. maybe cause I come from a FPS background my skin is somewhat more sturdy. Okay so some1 you dont know talks mad trash in chat. Okay, so what? I mean you even have an ignore button if you really can't handle it.

But imho you shouldnt really get fazed by some unknown KB warrior talking crap in chat. What could some1 like that possibly say to tick you off so much to the point youre thinking to yourself, or saying out loud: "I dont like this place. This place is such poison."

Alomar · May 2018

Toxicity has always been there/here/over-there/everywhere, ESO's tiny pvp population just no longer has the numbers to dilute or overshadow it anymore.

Bless Online May 28th

Thunderknuckles · May 2018

Talcyndl wrote: »

I love the angry "Zone Generals" telling the entire Alliance how stupid we are. I always wonder if they realize how counterproductive their [snip] is.

[Edited to remove profanity]

Man, I feel 100% certain that they either don't care or are so narcissistic that they aren't even aware of it. They would likely be enraged if they were to learn just how many people have them on ignore. LOL

Edited to mention that one of the coolest interactions I had with another faction player was when we took each other out at the exact same time and both got the Close Call Kill achievement. He whispered me and said, "That was awesome!" and I responded in kind. It was cool. Don't run across that very often. Still, haven't gotten too many hate whispers in a while.

Biro123 · May 2018

Easy way to reduce the toxicity.... Just do as the zone generals tell you!!

Baconlad · May 2018

I can't wait to log in and crap talk zone chat....much fun

Minyassa · May 2018

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

poietin · May 2018

Can you imagine if cyrodiil had proximity voice chat? lololololol

Sandman929 · May 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

In an environment made of mostly angsty teens wrestling with their hormones and socially stunted 20-somethings? That would be a rare gem.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · May 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

On XBox it’s literally 95% reasonably chill people in Cyrodiil. Maybe you’ll get hazed a bit playfully if you say something stupid in the chat, but that’s about it.

Sure, you’ll get an occasional idiot spouting nonsense but that is definitely in the minority. In thousands of PVP kills I think I’ve gotten like 2 hate messages ever, which is actually better than this very forum where I got a death threat once.

The average dungeon run with randoms ... yeah ... that’s completely the opposite though.

Takes-No-Prisoner · May 2018

PS4 NA I occasionally see individuals get called out for 1v1s and then we have hissing / spitting over dumb arguments. Most of the time, the dumb stuff is just entertainment.

The important thing I reserve Zone for is call outs of enemy attacks. Half of the time I send out an alert for one of our keeps getting attacked, if there is a zerg leader reading chat, they show up!

Been in a few situations where it's just me n' a handful of defenders on front door. It's been 5 minutes since the call went out, keep is flagged, and over the horizon I see a zerg leader and his 24-man ride up on Rapids and smash into the enemy zerg. Good times those are.

IZZEFlameLash · May 2018

I dunno why, but this game might have the highest concentration of egomaniacs of all games I've played. Not even FPS games I played were this much ego driven. From 1vXers that slam the X for outnumbering them to guilds claiming to be the saviors of servers and such. I think I've seen it all. But there might be more I have yet to uncover.

Rokh · May 2018

I enter Cyrodill with the understanding that excessive gaming is an addiction and most of my friends playing ESO are addicted to gaming. We are all aware it is wrong and we are hurting ourselves but we continue to victimise ourselves. This sort of behaviour leads to the creation of our egos which are very hard to maintain. The whole delusion of our awesome is held together by this ego which continously needs to be fed. Which causes people to behave in all sort of nasty ways.
It's rather pitiful.
Wait what did i say? It's too early for me and why I am posting here..

Biro123 · May 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

PC-EU is fine.. Toxicity is rare. Mostly people in /zone are either just reporting campaign info or having a bit of friendly chat/banter.

ofc, things would be better if people didn't keep ignoring home-keeps and calls for defensive help to instead keep pushing the weaker faction - but then, that's mostly ZoS's fault for making it almost pointless to try to play the campaign anyway, so there seems to be this split between those who still try, and those who dgaf anymore.
I'm on the 'still trying' side - but can't blame the others. Will probably be joining them soon.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · May 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

PC-EU is fine.. Toxicity is rare. Mostly people in /zone are either just reporting campaign info or having a bit of friendly chat/banter.

ofc, things would be better if people didn't keep ignoring home-keeps and calls for defensive help to instead keep pushing the weaker faction - but then, that's mostly ZoS's fault for making it almost pointless to try to play the campaign anyway, so there seems to be this split between those who still try, and those who dgaf anymore.
I'm on the 'still trying' side - but can't blame the others. Will probably be joining them soon.

Yeh EU is fine apart from the *** threats, doxing, swatting and general raging toxicity and dead hours of pvp. Completely fine.

Biro123 · May 2018

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

PC-EU is fine.. Toxicity is rare. Mostly people in /zone are either just reporting campaign info or having a bit of friendly chat/banter.

ofc, things would be better if people didn't keep ignoring home-keeps and calls for defensive help to instead keep pushing the weaker faction - but then, that's mostly ZoS's fault for making it almost pointless to try to play the campaign anyway, so there seems to be this split between those who still try, and those who dgaf anymore.
I'm on the 'still trying' side - but can't blame the others. Will probably be joining them soon.

Yeh EU is fine apart from the *** threats, doxing, swatting and general raging toxicity and dead hours of pvp. Completely fine.

You're in the wrong faction :-) Come to DC - we're all nice fluffy bunnies!

Dyride · May 2018

The toxicity is correlated to the number of people playing Nightblades.

If you have too many wanna-be assassin rogues, their failed gank tears infiltrate the groundwater. #ESOscience.

IZZEFlameLash · May 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

PC-EU is fine.. Toxicity is rare. Mostly people in /zone are either just reporting campaign info or having a bit of friendly chat/banter.

ofc, things would be better if people didn't keep ignoring home-keeps and calls for defensive help to instead keep pushing the weaker faction - but then, that's mostly ZoS's fault for making it almost pointless to try to play the campaign anyway, so there seems to be this split between those who still try, and those who dgaf anymore.
I'm on the 'still trying' side - but can't blame the others. Will probably be joining them soon.

Yeh EU is fine apart from the *** threats, doxing, swatting and general raging toxicity and dead hours of pvp. Completely fine.

You're in the wrong faction :-) Come to DC - we're all nice fluffy bunnies!

I really doubt that. Videos/dramas from PC EU shows that it is as toxic as NA one. Not to the degree of NA consoles though by the looks of it. All the namecallings. And I do have to say people playing NBs are prone to be toxic??? I am not sure why but I find it to be the case.

LegendaryMage · May 2018

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

Is there even such a thing as civil PvP? I'm asking seriously. I have not seen any game yet where it isn't just accepted that PvP means people being rude and nasty to each other. It would be nice to find out if I've just had bad luck with that so far. I would actually enjoy PvP in a different type of social environment.

PC-EU is fine.. Toxicity is rare. Mostly people in /zone are either just reporting campaign info or having a bit of friendly chat/banter.

ofc, things would be better if people didn't keep ignoring home-keeps and calls for defensive help to instead keep pushing the weaker faction - but then, that's mostly ZoS's fault for making it almost pointless to try to play the campaign anyway, so there seems to be this split between those who still try, and those who dgaf anymore.
I'm on the 'still trying' side - but can't blame the others. Will probably be joining them soon.

Yeh EU is fine apart from the *** threats, doxing, swatting and general raging toxicity and dead hours of pvp. Completely fine.

You're in the wrong faction :-) Come to DC - we're all nice fluffy bunnies!

I really doubt that. Videos/dramas from PC EU shows that it is as toxic as NA one. Not to the degree of NA consoles though by the looks of it. All the namecallings. And I do have to say people playing NBs are prone to be toxic??? I am not sure why but I find it to be the case.

There's only 3-4 loudmouths from PC EU that cause drama, if zeni dealt with them, PC EU wouldn't have had any external drama, although still plenty of internal one. This is why social bans need to make a comeback at once.

pzschrek · May 2018

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

And I do have to say people playing NBs are prone to be toxic??? I am not sure why but I find it to be the case.

Look at how a nightblade plays. It's an ass hole class from the ground up. So it's no surprise that people who main them generally tend to be ass holes

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos · May 2018

LegendaryMage wrote: »

There's only 3-4 loudmouths from PC EU that cause drama, if zeni dealt with them, PC EU wouldn't have had any external drama, although still plenty of internal one. This is why social bans need to make a comeback at once.

Dude there are alot more than that....
Many pvpers want recognition and open their mouths to get it.

SkysOutThizeOut · May 2018

If you want to get the toxic small scalers out of zone and your faction read this thread. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415045/create-a-4th-faction-a-deserter-bandit-faction-in-cyrodiil#latest

frozywozy · May 2018

Sometimes I wish accounts were bound to one faction, and you couldn't communicate with the other faction. Just like Wow used to be. It would be easier to get along and people with big egos wouldn't be a problem anymore.

vamp_emily · May 2018

Humans are attracted to drama because it is stimulating.

Elong · May 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Sometimes I wish accounts were bound to one faction, and you couldn't communicate with the other faction. Just like Wow used to be. It would be easier to get along and people with big egos wouldn't be a problem anymore.

But you play in a guild with big egos who play and communicate with other factions.

Vilestride · May 2018

Elong wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Sometimes I wish accounts were bound to one faction, and you couldn't communicate with the other faction. Just like Wow used to be. It would be easier to get along and people with big egos wouldn't be a problem anymore.

But you play in a guild with big egos who play and communicate with other factions.

How was DC ?

Elong · May 2018

Vilestride wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Sometimes I wish accounts were bound to one faction, and you couldn't communicate with the other faction. Just like Wow used to be. It would be easier to get along and people with big egos wouldn't be a problem anymore.

But you play in a guild with big egos who play and communicate with other factions.

How was DC ?

It was awful. 2 months of listening to those who we do not name. How did you find your time there?

LegendaryMage · May 2018

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

There's only 3-4 loudmouths from PC EU that cause drama, if zeni dealt with them, PC EU wouldn't have had any external drama, although still plenty of internal one. This is why social bans need to make a comeback at once.

Dude there are alot more than that....
Many pvpers want recognition and open their mouths to get it.

Few on Youtube, but many more in-game. The ones in-game need social bans desperately, as far as I know, that used to be a thing in the past, but no longer is sadly.

It would simply limit all communication on an account until it expires, leaving the player free to play the game, without bothering anyone else of course.

DoctorESO · May 2018

Talcyndl wrote: »

I love the angry "Zone Generals" telling the entire Alliance how stupid we are. I always wonder if they realize how counterproductive their [snip] is.

[Edited to remove profanity]

People who do that are not "real" generals.

Iskras · May 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Sometimes I wish accounts were bound to one faction, and you couldn't communicate with the other faction. Just like Wow used to be. It would be easier to get along and people with big egos wouldn't be a problem anymore.

- rather than using some personal privileges, such as friendships, to suggest third-party banishment, right?