Bot trains - again and again [video]

Ipslor · December 2017

Auridon. Grathwood. Khenarti's Roost. What's common in all of these places?
GUESS WHAT? INFINITE BOT TRAINS!
All reports goes to /dev/null. No GM seems to respond. There are the same accounts and even the same characters over and over and over. You want proof? Here's some nice video for you! Some high quality 24/7 TRAINBOTTING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVPIyU5yeAo

Why is it still happening? I remember there was a time without this cancer. What happened?

Ladislao · December 2017

Can agree.

Actually I don't see any problems with bots. But in view of the fact that third-party software is used, bots must be banned. There are a lot of bot trains in the initial locations of the factions.

maniac4maniac · December 2017

These bots took a pretty crappy location to grind though from so many possible uninhabited choices :d

Elsonso · December 2017

Ipslor wrote: »

Auridon. Grathwood. Khenarti's Roost. What's common in all of these places?
GUESS WHAT? INFINITE BOT TRAINS!
All reports goes to /dev/null. No GM seems to respond. There are the same accounts and even the same characters over and over and over. You want proof? Here's some nice video for you! Some high quality 24/7 TRAINBOTTING!

Why is it still happening? I remember there was a time without this cancer. What happened?

It is still happening because the botters create or buy new accounts and use them to run the same scripted patterns. When they get banned, and they do, it is a matter of hours before they show up again.

You give no clues about what server your video was taken on. A quick check of my records says that I have reported (or noted) close to 100 bots on that beach this year (PC/NA). Last time I was there, there were 6 bots running there (PC/NA), and the oldest ones I reported just over a month ago (Nov 10, 2017). If new bots show up, I will report them, but right now I am just waiting for them to get around to banning the ones that are there. When that happens, I will report the new ones.

As they have said, it takes multiple reports against an account for it to attract their attention. I have seen cases where one or two disappear, but the rest remain. I figure this is because someone just reported one bot and said "there are others there". They say that works, but based on this observation, I report them all individually. If they take action against me for over-reporting, their loss.

I can definitely say that when I report them, no one trots right out there and bans them any time soon.

As an aside, this is not the worst of the cases. There are a few bots running in Shadowfen that I have reported more than once. I have a rule that I never report more than one time, but these guys have been there since AUGUST and I wondered if the reports were getting misfiled into the "don't care" bucket. Others have gone, and new ones have come, but these guys are like royalty. I have named one of them the King of Shadowfen. They should rename the area after him. I don't even report bots in Shadowfen anymore. It is a waste of my time. There must be something about them that frightens ZOS and they won't touch them. Maybe they are ZOS run bots. Who knows.

Tan9oSuccka · December 2017

Ladislao wrote: »

Can agree.

Actually I don't see any problems with bots. But in view of the fact that third-party software is used, bots must be banned. There are a lot of bot trains in the initial locations of the factions.

Gold sellers are a Plague. Zenimax really needs to be more aggressive with this problem.

I would say they are part of the reason the economy is so jacked up on PS4.

Apherius · December 2017

Ipslor wrote: »

Auridon. Grathwood. Khenarti's Roost. What's common in all of these places?

Rivenspire, Alik'r Desert, Betnikht, The rift, Shadowfen[..] EVERYWHERE

What common in all of these place ? The tranquility, they know that they will probably have 3/4 month to level their accounts and farm dreugh-wax in order to Sell gold in chat and Sell account, then zenimax will decide to do something and ban them ...

I won't say that they don't ban them like a lot say ... because i know they do it ... it's just that it takes too much time, and this last thing is true.

jssriot · December 2017

A week or so ago I saw a bot train run right into Elden Root, I guess to empty their inventories. They really aren't worry about getting reported.

Elsonso · December 2017

jssriot wrote: »

A week or so ago I saw a bot train run right into Elden Root, I guess to empty their inventories. They really aren't worry about getting reported.

No. They know that ZOS isn't really active on this front. I am sure that the reason that ZOS waits for reports, and then counts the reports before acting, is that they don't want to spend time on the bots unless enough people complain. Then they are all about swooping in and dealing with the matter.

I dunno. Maybe they just deal with bots once a quarter, or once a month, on some afternoon before heading out. Who knows. All I know is that new bots appear so much faster than ZOS gets rid of them that it is probably hardly even a concern for the botters. They have free run of the game, and they know it. (edit: the botters know it, too)

jssriot · December 2017

Apherius wrote: »

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What common in all of these place ? The tranquility, they know that they will probably have 3/4 month to level their accounts and farm dreugh-wax in order to Sell gold in chat and Sell account, then zenimax will decide to do something and ban them ...

I won't say that they don't ban them like a lot say ... because i know they do it ... it's just that it takes too much time, and this last thing is true.

I have admittedly given up on reporting them. It takes too much to my time to run after each bot I see to report them. All I feel I can do is refuse to craft for and buy from people I suspect run bots. Sad that I pretty much ignore anyone in my guild asking for a crafter to make low-level training gear now and likewise I've stopped buying certain items from the trade guild I'm in because it's bad enough I have to compete with bot runners in the same guild. And I never, never buy from zone chat--never really did before, but now more committedly. I don't think any of this makes much an impact, but all teh same, I don't want anything to do with bot runners if I can help it.

Ipslor · December 2017

lordrichter wrote: »

You give no clues about what server your video was taken on.

Always forgot that part.
PC/EU

Kalante · December 2017

ps4 NA in glenumbra

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QmnhC3ade1g&t=1s"]https://youtube.com/watch?v=QmnhC3ade1g&t=1s[/url]

cbdfarm · December 2017

Kalante wrote: »

ps4 NA in glenumbra

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QmnhC3ade1g&t=1s"]https://youtube.com/watch?v=QmnhC3ade1g&t=1s[/url]

A good site to see all the dead werewolves lol but other then that the bots ruin the game lol

Meld777 · December 2017

Fact is, bots do not get banned. End of discussion.

If you see a bot disappear, it is not because of your report, but because the account got linked to gold selling. And yes, gold sellers tend to lose their accounts quite often. No matter how many guild banks you have and how careful you are, some buyers report sellers after a purchase and it makes part of the gold trackable.

You don't believe me? Get a bot yourself. Not very hard. Just google for a good botting software. Report yourself 10 times. Bot for another month. Then come back and tell me I was right. As long as you don't sell gold, no one will touch your bot.

Yes, I know ZOS made an official statement that bots are getting banned. I just haven't heard of a single case where an account of any gold seller I know got banned for actual botting.

Source: I'm a long-time member of elitepvpers and EpicNPC communities. No, I do not bot myself, but I know many people who do in multiple games incl. ESO and make a good living off it.

duendology · December 2017

This is so irritating and p****ing off!
And also LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME whether you do it because you can't be bothered farming or to sell gold.
Annoying mother*****s! I hope your consoles or pcs blow up in your face..or get a virus!
And Merry Very!

Elsonso · December 2017

Meld777 wrote: »

Fact is, bots do not get banned. End of discussion.

If you see a bot disappear, it is not because of your report, but because the account got linked to gold selling. And yes, gold sellers tend to lose their accounts quite often. No matter how many guild banks you have and how careful you are, some buyers report sellers after a purchase and it makes part of the gold trackable.

You don't believe me? Get a bot yourself. Not very hard. Just google for a good botting software. Report yourself 10 times. Bot for another month. Then come back and tell me I was right. As long as you don't sell gold, no one will touch your bot.

Yes, I know ZOS made an official statement that bots are getting banned. I just haven't heard of a single case where an account of any gold seller I know got banned for actual botting.

Source: I'm a long-time member of elitepvpers and EpicNPC communities. No, I do not bot myself, but I know many people who do in multiple games incl. ESO and make a good living off it.

Would not surprise me if this was true. I have to figure that either they are so overwhelmed that they can't keep up with bots, or they really don't care about bots. If all they care about is gold selling, then I guess it is reasonable that it is the latter and all they do is check the account to see if it is associated with gold selling. If it is, ban time. If it isn't, carry on.

Nestor · December 2017

Ladislao wrote: »

Can agree.

Actually I don't see any problems with bots.

I guess the fact that they kill mobs that are required for quests is lost on you.

getemshauna · May 2018

I'm not gonna create a new topic - Customer Support doesn't even allow me to include a description or video - I should "add player to ignore list".

Here is a video of bot train in Grahtwood aswell - next to the Laeloria.

https://youtu.be/glFrFFCfKSM
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_EveP

Aesthier · May 2018

When I see bots I grab a drink and a ranged toon and settle into tagging every mob they do. Just wish I could find a pack of them in Craglorn for better loots.

Yzalirk · May 2018

I like the music, very smooth and uplifting.

Anyways, exactly what agenda do bots have? And are all said bots in the same location used by a single botter?

Rawkan · May 2018

Bots in MMO's will always exists. People are always buying gold. You ban the bots, new ones pop up in a minute. Purchasing new accounts is cheap with the amount of money they make off of gold buyers.

DHale · May 2018

Now bots are seen in most zones on na pc even on weekdays. I still report one but I know they don’t do anything which I actually write in my report.

Tan9oSuccka · May 2018

I stand corrected from my earlier post. They are back in the same spots in Betnik, Alikr and others.

PS4 NA.

a1i3nz · May 2018

Who cares? If it's ruining your immersion....lol this games pve sucks it's pathetic that they even care enough to bot eso

Grabmoore · May 2018

a1i3nz wrote: »

Who cares? If it's ruining your immersion....lol this games pve sucks it's pathetic that they even care enough to bot eso

This is why we need a separate forum for Xbox users. Kids can't handle adult discussions.

exiars10 · May 2018

gethemshauna wrote: »

I'm not gonna create a new topic - Customer Support doesn't even allow me to include a description or video - I should "add player to ignore list".

Here is a video of bot train in Grahtwood aswell - next to the Laeloria.
https://youtu.be/glFrFFCfKSM
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_EveP

Yay, I saw bots first time ever in Grahtwood... last weekend ... There were two trains killing tigers.

MajBludd · May 2018

If everyone starts running bots we'll be all good. Since Zos doesn't care to get rid of botters.

Jayman1000 · May 2018

yeah, the usual places. these locations have been botted by trains for so long back I cant even remember a time it wasnt happening . it's incredible. you have to wonder why zos doesn't just put up THREE wide screens monitoring these locations 24/7, so they only have to glance up on the screen when a train comes chooing, "ban time!". but no, these trains go on and on and on. in the EXACT same places constantly, 24/7 non-stop. For YEARS! dafrog up with you zos?? u blind or sumtin?

And now that I have sat here and watched the video for a while I recognise the pattern they run in; it's the same damn pattern, the exact same route I have seen when I went to these places to witness it myself. meaning, this must be the same person doing it again and again and again over and over. they must just be reusing the same route each time.

Jayman1000 · May 2018

What's the music playing?

patents · May 2018

They are everywhere

And there’s nothing we can do

SirBaldrick · May 2018

Love the tunes on this vid!

ArchMikem · May 2018

At least with Bots like these you can snipe the mobs before they get to them, that way they don't collect any mats cause they didn't get hits in. The real pains are the ones that stand in one spot in the middle of a group of spawns just constantly firing off attacks. You can't grief those, unless there's a convenient world boss nearby.