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Azuramoonstar wrote: »

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If anything, the people who are toxic towards their random group mates - and/or have an issue with being paired up with lower level/CP players - are the ones who should not be using the dungeon finder, and they should be the ones playing with friends/guildies so that they can control who they are playing with.

I'm beyond tired of this argument. Let me break it down for you.

1. I am in 4 PVE guilds, 3 of which are near max capacity. Nothing is happening in any guild chats the vast majority of the time. Nobody is asking if anyone wants to farm gear, nobody is running trials (normal or vet), nobody is looking to do pledges, nobody is looking to get dungeon skins or motifs, nobody is even looking to do a skyshard or lorebook group. Sure, you'll see one of these things very occasionally, but for about 80% of the time I'm logged in and can see the chat from all these channels, it's just either completely dead across all channels or there will be a little banter that has nothing to do with running stuff, and this is in FOUR PVE GUILDS. "Just run with guildies" is not a valid point when nobody in 4 PVE guilds is making any attempt to collect players to do anything, and when I post something like "anyone want to farm SPC/Ebon/Whateverset", it's nothing but empty air waves for a response.

2. Some people (myself included) can only play at off-hours when the already generally uncohesive population is cut to one-tenth.

3. "Make more friends then". This depends on what kind of person you are on multiple levels. Your task-orientation, your standards for behavior, and your schedule all govern which people could potentially become your friends. If you're a guy that loves being rowdy, has little to no standards for behavior, volume, or skill level, and plays a lot in primetime, your friends list will be much larger than mine since I have high standards for behavior, courtesy, and skill level, I only run with people when I need to collect/complete something quickly and solo otherwise, and can only play in the wee hours of the morning.

"Just use guilds/friends to avoid the problems of the group finder" does not work for either side of the argument, and if people would just use whatever critical-thinking skills they have, this would have been realized and shut down a long time ago. Between schedules, incompatible personalities/skill levels, different goals that everyone is working on at any given point meaning working on someone elses' is a personal sacrifice, this argument should be considered the Poster-Boy for "easier said than done."

I am in PVE RP guilds (and RP and trading guilds) that are all very active, and people are constantly playing together - everything from PvE/PvP content to normal dungeons and trials. If your guilds are or feel dead/inactive you should consider leaving them and joining new guilds. There are so many guilds out there!

I would never say anything about "making more friends", as I am very well aware of how different people are in regards to their respective introversion or extroversion. But again, this is where either you join guilds to make it easier to connect with others, OR you use the Zone chat. There are always people (especially in the capitol cities) spamming the chat with LFM or LFG, which IMO is one of the better ways to find people that fit your "criteria".

As for what time you play, that of course can have affect on how many and what kind of players are online. But as a person who also plays in the off hours, I do not see this as an issue on the matter. If anything, I am just glad anyone is actually using the dungeon finder at these random times


Not to get too personal, but it seems your focus lies mainly on the issues of guilds and the social aspect of the game. Rarely do people choose to stay in inactive guilds, or in guilds where they don't feel they can properly connect with others. This is an MMO after all - so being "social" is kind of a must, especially if you want to do dungeons, PvP and general end-game content. ESO was my first ever MMO (have been playing since PC beta), and I definitely had to cross some personal boundaries in regards to communicating in the game, but it can be done.

But anyways, best of luck in the future - hope you get your guild situation sorted

pretty much this.

I have autism, and i had no real issue making friends in-game and networking with people. Easiest thing is simply help people and ask for help in return.

hell even start a guild around an interest, and look for people of similar interest. I met my boyfriend in my guild on ff14 by talking to him about games. nearly 6 years together and lived with him for 2 years come june 1ts.

idk why mmo went from very social games to anti-social. the "i have a real life" mantra really should die as everyone has a life outside of the game. I met people who had full time jobs/families that could play 5 hours a night. I also met people who play 2 hours a night simple because they shared a system, or just simply only wanted to play 2 hours a night.

really wish people would stop make petty excuses on why they can't meet people and get stuff done game has a large player base that is fairly active at all hours. i play 5pm-5am CST/CDT and see chat very active, I've also play 5am-5pm and again see the chat fairly active.

Just a thought; some folk have disorders that make socialising problematic. Some folk want to avoid the drama. Some folks have disabilities that make them less than optimal for grouping up and they don't want to ask for special treatment. There are reasons that aren't "petty", at least to those experiencing them.

I have autism, and ADD, yet i have 0 issue networking with others, and finding like minded people to do content with in every mmo i've played. You should never use your disability as an excuse not to do things, it just enables bad habits, and bad behavior. If a persons disability is so bad that chatting via text is bad. MMO are not really for them, as some text communication will be necessary at some point in every mmo. Also if a person has physical disabilities that make there dps low, find people who are accepting and understanding. There was a guy in ff14 who has a birth defect that made his arms/hard deform and played with his feet. He was cheered on but a ton of people.

Everything you just stated is a petty excuse. And it is sad to see people use there disabilities as a scapegoat. It just hurts others who have disabilities but go on to make friends and do content together. Disabilities are not some ball/chain or wall to hide behind.

I guess you cannot understand that there are some things that are simply impossible for some people. Perhaps some day you will be able to see that.

Sure, there are ways to accommodate, work around etc. and that is always the best way to have things but it is not always possible for everyone. Please respect that.

Do you know how degrading it is for me to read that? I fully understand what it is like to have disabilities that make the most of basic of things hard. But i try to work above it like others do, and how others should. You can't live life under the yoke of a disability. Nor can you use it as an excuse. Please understand and respect that.

You are just enabling bad behavior, and bad habits. People need to wake up to reality that their disability is not something that should define them, that they choose to do activities that don't agree with their disabilities that they need to make it work, and raise above there disability.

I play MMO to help with my autism, I used to not talk at all. But due to playing mmo, and having to communicate i worked hard to get better. Your comment is a nit of a slap in the face to my hard work.

Being an sjw is not a good thing, and to be frank.... none of what you said was the "petty excuses" i was referencing and you making my post to be about stuff that isn't. I just chose to say my stance on said comment.

No one should have the audacity to use there disability as a shield to stop them from participating in a game they choose to play.

Or simply put, don't choose games that don't agree with your disabilities if you are so weak willed to play despite the disability.

Sorry but I hate when people use disabilities as a shield, yoke and a ball and chain. It makes people like me seem weak.

All I ask is that people respect, if not understand, that not everyone can operate at the same level. It is naught to do with "SJW" or anything of that ilk. It is about empathy, understanding, awareness that we are not all alike. Not using as a "shield", not using as an "excuse" but facing realities which vary wildly from person to person. It's grand that you are able to carry on as you do. A personal victory, indeed (no sarcasm to that at all, I'm serious, it is a victory for you and due to your hard work) and someone else not being able to do as you do has utterly nothing to do with making you look weak. But you are not everyone and if others wish to play an MMO and are not interfering with their fellow games, good on 'em.

I'm not sure how many people are using their disability(ies). I know quite a few people who don't even mention them, aside from if pushed to do something they either aren't comfortable with or simply cannot.

I'm sorry that you are taking that as a "slap in the face" as that's entirely the opposite of my intentions. I am not enabling anything here. I'm proffering a viewpoint that I think could be given more consideration. Some folk can overcome, some cannot. You can and whilst I'm glad for you, you aren't everyone.

Go well.

Nothing you stated was about showing respect, or understanding. But enabling bad habits and behavior.

If players can't fill in a basic expectation of communication, why should they play an MMO which has a requirement of basic communication. MMo are team based games, and at some point require you to play as a team, you are require to communicate.

also sjw, is social justice warrior. you fight on the behalf of "weaker" people.

Everyone's actions can effect others, which is how stereotypes form, is most of the autism players started to say "we don't wanna chat cuz autism" then people will assume everyone with autism is anti-social.

Reality is what you make of it, anyone can overcome their disability and do anything.

Juju_beans wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Azuramoonstar wrote: »

i've played ff14 for 5 years, it has a duty finder (random group finder) with themed roulette that gives daily bonuses, specific queues for content. As well as a party finder tool that allows you to set up groups that you can set rules on.

I think ESO can benefit from a party finder tool, would make grouping easier for me in the long run.

so you think it would be a good idea if ESO introduced a tool that supported people being ***?

Wow has a tool like that for putting together custom groups and allows players to specify requirements.
And, as you would think, the player requirements are the most elite achieves, gear, dps scores.