I'm not sure but do you know what you get when you cross a Hobo and a rabbit ?

Aren't the orcs closer to the daedra than the Dunmer?

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I don't think bosmer horns are daedra horns

They look the same and one of them is actually called cute deadra horns or some such...

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Aren't the orcs closer to the daedra than the Dunmer?

Well according to Dark elf quests some npcs say that the dunmer are descendants to the deadra.. and that they are the closest relatives a few times..

I just thought it was strange that both the deadra and Bosmer both have horns the same..

Is there any lore on all this or is it just ESO fluff added in..

From the unofficial lore wiki xD

The earliest days of the Bosmer are lost in legend. Some speak of the Ooze, the shape-shifting formlessness from which they came before the Green Pact with Y'ffre. More obscure legends also suggest that not all Bosmer agreed to the Green Pact. Some wished to stay as the Ooze, to keep their shape-shifting abilities. However, these dissenters were apparently overcome by the other Bosmer, and as punishment, these "Oathbreakers" were buried in Ouze. There's some suggestion that early Bosmer were known for intermarrying with humans.

Tho cannot find any mentions of Bosmer / Deadra. I only find a conspiracy that the green pact shaped them from the ooze by Hircine. Tho nothing concrete as the first era of TES lore is still, well. Unknown for the most parts xP

some more lore from another source:

Writings[source?] describe the Bosmer's settling on the shores of Valenwood in a different way than most historical records describe. It says that the Bosmer (or Aldmer/Altmer) of the time wanted to be free of the main-stream way of life on Alinor (or the Summerset Isles) and instead wanted to live a life of simplicity in the forest and, because of this, left their home of their own accord. However, lore articles[source?] and in-game tomes[source?] describe the Aldmer/Altmer landing on the shores of the province in ancient times and leaving some of their own people behind so that they would have ties to the Tamrielic mainland when in a time of need (this would explain the supposed pact of old that they made which gave the Thalmor the right to annex Valenwood at the beginning of the Aldmeri Dominion's revival).[source?]

Pretty sure bosmer horns are left overs from the early days of tamriel when aedra had physical forms on nirn and nature was constantly changing. I would need to find a source of course but i believe i saw this is some bosmer lore that the horns are due to how they constantly shapeshifted back then

Also dungmer are related to daedra only in that they worship and were cursed by daedra. Their biological lineage is completely mer as far as im aware. I assume they claim to be decendant from daedra for the same reason one would claim to be the child of a god irl

"The Green Pact with the Forest God known as Y'ffre, the spirit of the now, is the agreement where the Bosmer promised never to harm or eat the vegetation of Valenwood, in return for Y'ffre's patronage.[13][19] To this day, they have little more than foot paths connecting their tiny settlements in Valenwood's sparsely populated forests.[1][20] In return, Y'ffre grants them the power to maintain their form and not constantly change their form as in the Dawn Era, while also permitting to them to return to that state if a significant number of Bosmer perform a ritual.[19][21] "

uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Bosmer

"Y'ffre (God of the Forest): Most important deity of the Bosmeri pantheon. While Auri-El Time Dragon might be the king of the gods, the Bosmer revere Y'ffre as the spirit of 'the now'. According to the Wood Elves, after the creation of the mortal plane everything was in chaos. The first mortals were turning into plants and animals and back again."

This was a copy from another thread that asked the same question, so just going too leave the link for it here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/86563/bosmer-lore-question

Dunmer, Altmer, Bosmer, Maormer and Orsimer all used to be 1 race of elves called Aldmer.
There were those who worshipped Daedra as true gods but the others didn't like this and even killed a lot of these elves. These particular ones were aided by Boethiah to help them survive in darkness and murder if they needed to. Boethiah then aided them further by helping them escape Summerset Isles but Trinimac tried to stop them.
Trinimac was an Aldmer hero who was then confronted by Boethiah when he tried to stop the elves leaving. She/He, Boethiah, devoured Trinimac and released him as a corrupted being called Malakath. Trinimac's followers were also corrupted and transformed into Orcs.
The Daedric-worshipping Aldmer, guided by their prophet Veloth, then escaped to a land called Resdayn or as we know it by today, Morrowind. By this point they were no longer called Aldmer but Chimer or Changed Elves. There in Resdayn they met with the Dwemer, the Deep Elves who are also called Dwarves by the Giant races in another land (A whole other story for another time). I think they fought for the land for some time before finally coming together at peace. I'll summarize a bit. The Dwemer didnt worship any god and insteaf mocked them (basically atheist elves), aiming to challenge both Daedra and Aedra alike. They managed to get their hands onto the heart of Lorkhan, a god who tricked the 8 divines into creating the universe without telling them it would drain their powers and bind them to it. The gods killed him and tore his body apart, creating the 2 moons. They tried to destroy his heart but the heart laughed at them, so Auri-el (Akatosh) shot the heart into the ocean where Vvardelfell is right now. The heart then grew a literal volcano around itself, creating Vvardenfell. This all happenned before basically anything else I said before it lol. Anyways, the Dwemer were using the power of the god's heart to give themselves practically infinite lifespans while also creating a giant robot god named Numidium, the brass god. The Dwemer completely disappeared when someone (cant remember names) stroke the heart of Lorkahn. Some dude named Nerevar gave the heart to some dude named Dagoth Ur (his best friend) to hide it, but he went mad with power and had him killed (Dagoth Ur died). Then 3 people named Almalexia, Sotha Sil, and Vivec killed Nerevar as he was down and took the heart to become gods. The Daedric prince Azura was furious because these 3 mortals claimed god-hood so she cursed all Chimer with dark skin and red eyes, named Dunmer. After this, you buy TES3 and play Morrowind because that *** is absolutely insane and Dagoth Ur is an incredible being. I wanna play Morrowind again...

Still doesn't say if these Aedra and Deadra aren't just long lost ancestors of the modern Elves.. they all look identical.

This is a good question for the lore forum. Basically, I'll say this: Elves, or mer, and men and beast races, are all separate from daedra, which are not a race so much as a different type of magical entity. They are often considered a race in many regards for ease of classification, but daedra are more akin to aedra, the gods, than the mortal races of men and mer.

Altmer are the purest of the mer, the most elvish of the elves. Bosmer are close cousins of the Altmer, but closer with nature , hence their antlers or horns. Dunmer are closer to the daedra, but are basically still elves - they just worship daedra. Bretons are basically half elves, so half Altmer and half Imperial, let's say, neither of which are particularly kind to daedra. The same goes for Nords and Redguards and Imperials - not big daedra fans. The beast races care less about good and evil in terms of aedra and daedra, generally, but the Orsimer, or orcs, are a weird case. By some they are considered a beast race, but you can also tell by their name - orsiMER - that they are also considered elves by some. The legend is that they were elves corrupted by what is now a daedric prince, so they have daedric energy in their blood. This is only legend however, so we don't know if orcs are literally related to daedra. I mean, the Khajiit and Argonians are called betmer and they are almost definitely not related to elves (or at least Argonians).

But no, wood elf horns aren't really daedra related at all - it's more to do with nature and animals.

Thanks all i've learn't a lot here

Still not sure why some of the Dunmer quest npcs say that Dunmer are related to the Deadra.

Very odd.. If they are not.