DuskMarine wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

@DuskMarine
You do know Destiny 1 fixed their problems in about 18 months right? This game has been out since 2014 so please spare me your naivety.
Everyone understands issues take a long time to fix but the problem is little to no communication, largely ignoring player feedback or outright basically telling us to shove it, etc

18 months haha........ha thats kinda funny cause it actually tookem like 3 years to get it even remotely playable to the ones like me that play rpgs on a regular basis. that game was horrid for a lot longer than 18 months.

Atleast it hasn't turned into an EA copy cat

Rawkan wrote: »

There's a simple solution to this, stop paying them and play something else.

That's the heart of the problem for a lot of us, though, isn't it? We're addicted, so we can't stop.

Honestly i do feel for you kind sir, and i know how fustratign is this, trust me, i am also very sick of the OP classes what one hitt killing everything in Cyrodiil reguardless howmuch def i got as a sorcerer, even if i could hit the max cap that wont be enough againts the constant stunners, while sorcerers skill wich also doing stunns are disabled in Cyrodiil, sound realy fair right? Hell no, its bull sheet, if i can be constantly stunned by every god dam mele at least give me a fair advantages against them to do the same.

I am sick of the OP DK's, stampwardens, and the one hitt killing poision damages as well. Over performing other classes both in pvp and pve is not class balance. Each and every character should be equaly strong and weak. not the oposite. And thats realy fustrating. Not to mention not just pvp bleeding about issues, but also pve as well.

What we see constantly from others to nerf sorc, nerf magplar, nerf sorc, nerf sorc, oh and yes nerf sorc.... Beach please only those OP meles can have advantages over other classes, but a sorcerer cannot be stronger? what is this siriusly Kidner Garden mentality? OMG i tell you my MOM ZOS that you are too powerfull and you will be down at the bottom of teh dps list as sorcerer while nye nye nye i will be still OP asf and basicly onehitt killing everything and i cannot be killed even if 20 people is on me ha ha ha... I am so sick of this sheet fest too. Every class needs to be equaly buffed and nerfed at the same % including gear stats, cp stats, skill power % and so on. so everyone will be performing at the same level, and no one will getting annoyed by favouring over other classes while they can be still fun to play with. But constantly killing potential classes by these QQ's is just disgusts me all the time.

And the list goes on and on, and ZOs dosent need more information because tehy know it god damn well how messed up the class balances, including stats, skills, setts, and so on. so we realy dont have to be more specific, unless (forgive me devs) teh developers haven't got any clues about their own job around classes, races and how tehy should work, in balance with other classes, withouth any of teh classes overshine eachother.

OP take it easy and relax.

For whatever reason if you are not satisfied with the game, just cancel your account.

I am as equally critical of the combat mechanics and balance.

They are enamored with one shot mechanics in PVE and it bleeds over in pvp, and it is a serious problem.

They will never have any reasonable balance in this game so long as pve and pve skills are not isolated.

PVP is a literal disgrace. It has to be the most atrocious balanced I've ever seen.

So....whatever, cancel account and carry on. See, no biggie.

Sting864 wrote: »

zParallaxz wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

You do NOT speak for me.... I don't recall voting for you to be king....
Thank you ZOS, for listening to your customer feedback to make a truly stellar game...
(for those of you who are familiar with the scaffolding in the Thieves' Guild dungeons... that was a perfect example of talented developers implementing customer ideas... oh, and you're welcome...)

As I said before, these are the white knights who enjoy their simple pve overland quest and will still continue to support the game through the crown store. Therefore, ZOS has no real reason to improve combat since it makes no money.

It isn't "white Knighting" to enjoy something... I have not spent dollar one on Crowns... I get them with my ESO+ subscription, but that is not the reason I subscribe... I subscribe to ESO+ to invest in a pastime that I enjoy... Being an actual part of the development of something improves the journey... I'd rather help drive than whine in the back seat...

Yeah your helping them drive off a cliff lol, me and people like me are trying to police them away from danger and wrong doing.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I've been gaming for over 20 years and I've seen the cancer of greed completely destroy this industry.

We've gone from an era of gaming where microtransactions were unheard of to one where you're hard pressed to find a game without them.

We've gone from having game developers actively engaged in communication with their players and genuinely caring about the experience to companies that package and sell junk while labelling it gold, shut down anyone saying anything negative about it, and lying to your face when you call them out on these practices.

This *** has to stop, and the sooner the white knights stop defending those who are blatantly taking advantage of them, the sooner that cancer will wither and fade. I doubt it will ever happen, though, because too many of these people are all too happy to bend over and get reamed while saying thank you for it.

Customer service does not mean the customers serve you.

zos is genuinely caring about its playerbase they actually care about what we say people just want the impossible to happen like balance changes that needs a while to be fixed and worked on. and ive been in the gaming world a bit longer than you have and what your comparing zos to is not what zos is which i know who your comparing them to which is EA. sorry but i have to whole heartly disagree with you on that. EA doesnt talk at all and just gives out what they want us to do not what we say is wrong. zos does the complete polar opposite which is why alot of us have no problem supporting them. ZOS yes may take time to fix or add things players are saying are broken or want added but they do eventually add them. people wanted housing and jewelry crafting from day one of eso guess what we have now housing and jewelry crafting is coming. peoples main gripe right now class balancing if you ask me in the current build of the game class balance is currently just fine. but zos has already confirmed that they are working on it as a whole its going to take a lot of testing to make sure nothing gets messed up so your looking at maybe another year worth of work to be done on that. you gotta give games time you cant expect them to be done super fast.

You're naive. We've been told a dozen times between morrowind and now that class balance changes were going to be worked on. If any work had actually been done on that front, we would have it on the pts for summerset.

The problem here is people like yourself keep believing the lies zos is feeding you.

Go look at my post called the “PTS SCAM”, I tried bringing this bs up during the second week of summer set pts only to get my thread derailed by several white knights. If I would have Gina’s statement earlier I would of been golden.

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Please don't say "we" as if you speak for everyone.

This. As for me, I don't see any problems playing the game. Things change as devs add new content. ESO is a constant experiment. I have two options: get used to changes (and changes that are announced but will never happen or be reverted) or move to some more conservative game where nothing happens. I choose getting used.

A lot of these threads seem to be created by people who are completely burnt out on the game. Very few people play one game only all day every day without getting burned out. The moment the game starts feeling like a chore and you start being annoyed about every little thing, move on, take a break. The drive to play ESO will come back after you've cleared your head of it for a while.

I promise you, spending your time on these forums when you don't enjoy the game won't help, at all.

What people want i think is all classes to be viable in all content.. equally..

I know thats a big ask from game companies but a few classes really are lacking badly in that department.. That said and the stupid racials should never have been allowed to be so unbalanced for so long..

Racials do not make ESO "different" they just ruin character creation and cause no end of issues at the later game.


And i'm not against companies making money in a cash shop but here its too much.. Buy the damn game buy the expansions buy the dlcs and then support the game with a burden removal ESO+ monthly subscription.... wtf

On top of that 50% of the cash shop is rng crates and artificial limited stock made to make whales feel better...



Honestly yes the game is fun but i totally understand and agree with op asking for some balancing fixes on mediocre classes... with the amount of money grubbing Zos pulls a few balance fixes should not affect their damn budget.. ever..

Zenimax is doing a great job.

They're coming out with a new expansion in two weeks, what more can these snow flakes want?

LadyLethalla wrote: »

Rawkan wrote: »

There's a simple solution to this, stop paying them and play something else.

That's the heart of the problem for a lot of us, though, isn't it? We're addicted, so we can't stop.

Then you need to seek counseling like any other addiction.. Fix your issues as no one else will.

DuskMarine wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

@DuskMarine
You do know Destiny 1 fixed their problems in about 18 months right? This game has been out since 2014 so please spare me your naivety.
Everyone understands issues take a long time to fix but the problem is little to no communication, largely ignoring player feedback or outright basically telling us to shove it, etc

18 months haha........ha thats kinda funny cause it actually tookem like 3 years to get it even remotely playable to the ones like me that play rpgs on a regular basis. that game was horrid for a lot longer than 18 months.

Atleast it hasn't turned into an EA copy cat

im not sure what your referring to but zos isnt a ea copy. but bungie sure as heck is a copy of ea eververse is a prime example. at least the lootcrates in eso resemble what wed pay for out of lootcrates that you can get irl which is cosmetic items. destiny 2 those lootboxes are the only place to get endgame exotic shells.

Oh yeah I forgot it's worse than EA since you can't earn anything in game its all store bought