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The maintenance is complete, and the PTS is now back online and patch 11.2.1 is available.
Combat Changes 5/7/18?
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themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭All i see in terms of balance feedback is buff my balance tbh, and i fairly believe that they just made the best combat update ever.
So instead of all the QQ causing more stupid nerfs, i'm fine with the way it goes.PC|EU2 -
Gigasax✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
We hear that stuff for 3 major Updates now! Are you serious?Edited by Gigasax on May 7, 2018 2:58PM- Noractis -
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Nolic1✭✭✭Well we have 2 more big updates this year or DLC releases one could be class balance coming with one of them but will have to see if this will be true and what the changes will be.Sherman from Sherman's Gaming
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Hayhurst✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
What is the point in the class feedback threads if you're not going to make any changes based on the feedback in those threads. What happened to Summerset having a huge focus on class balancing? You've made one round of changes and now you're telling us all the feedback from the class balance threads won't be taken in to account for future Summerset patches and there will be no more focus on class balance until a further update down the line.
If you have any NO intention of making any changes based on feedback for the current patch you receive then don't ask for feedback at all. We feel like we're wasting our time.
Edited by Hayhurst on May 7, 2018 3:10PM21 -
Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
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Well, they should be focused on light attacks first. It’s what all classes use in weaving rotations. Then you balance individually off of a solid base.0 -
TheGentleChu✭✭I'm super disappointed to hear that nothing is changing despite all of the negative feedback in all of the class balance comment threads ... My poor MagDen will continue to be a meme and will be the laughing stock of PvP, but thank you for at least giving us some communication with what to expect. I hope in the future you'll let us know a bit sooner! @ZOS_GinaBruno6
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well we have 2 more big updates this year or DLC releases one could be class balance coming with one of them but will have to see if this will be true and what the changes will be.
I totally could see them selling a "Class Balance DLC" for 2000 Crowns.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -9 -
Toraf✭✭✭It will be next patch they said, and they said that since morrowind... "meh" let's wait another year I suppose.PC - EU - Pact
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Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly you've been saying we should wait for class balanding patch for the better part of two years now.
It's bad enough that you only do balancing updates about once a year, it's even worse when the much-touted balancing patch turns out to be nothing more than a few minor tweaks and changing skills that no one asked for or cares for (looking at you, DK healing skills).
Time and time you insist on saying you see and listen to all the feedback, time and time you invite players over for playtesting - and time and again nothing comes out of it.
Your gameplay team isn't delivering, and it hasn't been delivering for the entire 3 years I've been playing this game. And if you wonder why people are becoming hostile, it's because you keep leading us around by the nose with promises of gameplay balances that always turn out to be castles in the sky.
When you keep saying "next time you'll get balancing changes" and very little hapens, it gets really hard to believe you.16 -
Dragath✭✭✭✭calm down, guys.
the reason why they put the class balance patch on hold, is because they want to hire gilliam to do it.
they are not capable of doing it on their own.10 -
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I mean, I honestly don't think that's far from the truth. The class rep program is only just now getting off the ground, and presumably they want to let that have an impact on their next class balance patch.calm down, guys.
the reason why they put the class balance patch on hold, is because they want to hire gilliam to do it.
they are not capable of doing it on their own.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.3 -
Contraptions✭✭✭✭✭Class balancing can't be monetised. Maybe I'm just being cynical but I guess that's why ZOS is dragging their feet on it.Patroller and Editor at UESP16 -
Valkysas154✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
Yep def taking a year or so brake from this game once i am done with Summerset sad thing is there still prob wont be any changes by then absolute no confidence with this development team
There is allot more things i want to say but that would just get me a ban and i feel allot of other feel this way right now
Edited by Valkysas154 on May 7, 2018 3:46PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
The light attack changes with overload, empower, elemental weapon, and bound weapons has to be fixed, right now you can pull 70K light attacks on the PTS.
I can one shot anyone with this, and I really don’t want this to happen.
It’s an easy enough fix: “overload light attacks can no longer be empowered”
Edited by Minalan on May 7, 2018 3:39PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭Contraptions wrote: »Class balancing can't be monetised. Maybe I'm just being cynical but I guess that's why ZOS is dragging their feet on it.
Coming soon to Crown Store: class balance scrolls8 -
Spurius_Lucilius✭✭✭Contraptions wrote: »Class balancing can't be monetised. Maybe I'm just being cynical but I guess that's why ZOS is dragging their feet on it.
Coming soon to Crown Store: class balance scrolls
I would rather get some Class Change Scrolls.PC NA Casual/PVP6 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
so mind explaining where the patch notes are your late as usual0 -
Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We are going to shove these Summerset class changes down your throat? Don’t like it? Then file feedback on the changes in the forum in the “Feedback for X Class Balance” threads that we start, which promptly goes into the trash folder.8 -
Mihael✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
lmao biggest load of bs ever also notice how it says future patches not next patch this way they can keep using the same old excuse lol6 -
SorataArisugawa✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
And this is, what we got so far is what Mr. Wroble and his team thought is enough for balance after 9 month?
I am sorry, I have to go, I can't stand the ridiculousness!PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!5 -
Starlight_Knight✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can you not just revert all the magwarden nerfs then untill you guys can sort the class out, i really dont want to have to play magden in the state it is on PTS - every change is dreadful for a pvper.
Loved the warden when it came out, but constantly feeling punished for playing one. To much take not enough give.
Edited by Starlight_Knight on May 7, 2018 4:19PM4 -
HatchetHaro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys,
We truly appreciate all the time and effort everyone has put into writing their feedback on current class balance. In hindsight, we realized the previous patch notes may have implied that balance changes specifically for class abilities would be included in upcoming PTS patches for Update 18. To be clear, our focus for the remaining PTS updates will be iteration and polish for the Psijic Order skill line, Light and Heavy Attack balancing, updating item sets, and fixing bugs. We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates.
Pretty pathetic to be honest, not balancing classes around the new stuff you guys have added. There is plenty of data already on what people are doing on the PTS; if that unbalanced stuff makes it to live, well, players would not be happy.
Hint: magblades have been BiS in PvE for weeks on the PTS due to their insane scaling damage with their executes and bloodthirsty. Nerf bloodthirsty and they're... actually still BiS.
This really seems to be a trend with you guys; there's just this disconnect between ZOS and the community. I thought you guys were on the right track with the "monthly" combat update discussions, but you just don't seem to understand just how much impact on the faith those of us in the raiding scene have in ZOS.Edited by HatchetHaro on May 7, 2018 6:53PMBest Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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Tanis-Stormbinder✭✭✭✭✭I am so disappointed with this combat balance news Summerset will be my last Chaper or DLC and that's only because I pre purchased5 -
Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, if it’s any consolation, this thread is a prime example of why the devs don’t really respond to the forums. If it’s anything we don’t want to hear, we complain, moan, and generally act childish.
For those of you that think: “well I don’t do that”, remember that this is a community. A sum of all our parts, not the individual.Edited by Avran_Sylt on May 7, 2018 4:24PM4 -
Dedricus✭✭✭Posted this on another thread and I'll post it here too...
There's an entire thread about needed stam dk changes. its been running for 2 ptr cycles now and we've got nothing. I've defended Zenimax for far too long. This is outrageous. I'm strongly regretting buying Summerset and I'll definitely speak with my buying power moving forward.
Not trying to make a scene, but the amount of help the devs have gotten from the players (which has mostly gone ignored) is unacceptable at this point.3 -
Dedricus✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »Well, if it’s any consolation, this thread is a prime example of why the devs don’t really respond to the forums. If it’s anything we don’t want to hear, we complain, moan, and generally act childish.
For those of you that think: “well I don’t do that”, remember that this is a community. A sum of all our parts, not the individual.
It's one thing if it happens every time they post, completely unwarranted. It's another thing when they've been putting off balance changes for over a year now.6 -
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✭✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »Well, if it’s any consolation, this thread is a prime example of why the devs don’t really respond to the forums. If it’s anything we don’t want to hear, we complain, moan, and generally act childish.
For those of you that think: “well I don’t do that”, remember that this is a community. A sum of all our parts, not the individual.
@Avran_Sylt you have a point but let's not pretend like the devs didn't string us all along and pull another bait and switch at the eleventh hour. A pretty disgusting and irresponsible move, people have a right to be frustrated about this.8 -
Delsskia✭✭✭✭Maybe they were hoping that everyone would be so pissed off about how slow and tedious it is to gather jewelry crafting mats, that we'd all forget about class balance for another 6 months.NA-PC
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