34k EZ DPS with S&B so why we nerfing strife???

NyassaV · May 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjW5OVblK0
Imagine if this person used Caltrops or vMA bow

Nerfing stirfe doesn't fix the problem and punishes the wrong part of the game. But lets give the already pretty OP DK a buff. FFS just give frags it's damage back and let magic wardens keep their CC

@ZOS_Wrobel

Asmael · May 2018

That was during the first week of PTS when Infused was broken, video has more relevance as a meme than anything else at this point.

ak_pvp · May 2018

What a pointless post. Showing a bug as justification to stop a nerf.

I don't want strife nerfed, no real point because then imbue and pulse out do it by a lot, and it homogenised the classes further. But it's hardly an entire class killing nerf, magblade will still be top mag spec, hell it even gets a buff with shade.

Darlon · May 2018

Lol, showing a bug that has already been fixed as argument for your case is really not going to work....

Osubaker33 · May 2018

Can we please ban this troll already

Lucky28 · May 2018

there is no reason strife is getting nerfed. stirfe isn't even why magblades have high dps. most magblade dps don't even run strife. so why indeed.

really it's just another blow to solo PvP as though it needed another blow.

danno8 · May 2018

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

DeadlyRecluse · May 2018

This bug exists, so don't nerf an unrelated skill?

Lucky28 · May 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

What a pointless post. Showing a bug as justification to stop a nerf.

I don't want strife nerfed, no real point because then imbue and pulse out do it by a lot, and it homogenised the classes further. But it's hardly an entire class killing nerf, magblade will still be top mag spec, hell it even gets a buff with shade.

he probably did it intentionally making fun of the NB cheesing a dummy video. XD

still tho. strife should not be nerfed. can't be said enough. it's a bad idea that does great harm to a classes signature skill.

NyassaV · May 2018

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

Waffennacht · May 2018

NyassaV wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

"Assuming" ... That word implies there's room for doubt.... Lmao

Inig0 · May 2018

are you drunk all the time?

DjMuscleboy02 · May 2018

Inig0 wrote: »

are you drunk all the time?

First off, I need you to step back up off my mans

NyassaV · May 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

"Assuming" ... That word implies there's room for doubt.... Lmao

touché

danno8 · May 2018

NyassaV wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

Lol, so you are posting a video about broken cheese, while trying to reference another video with broken cheese to make a point about a nerf to a completely different skill, all wrapped up in the false pretense that you don't know what is going on in the video you posted?

How could anyone misunderstand what you were trying to do?

xAk_MoRRoWiNdx · May 2018

Wow what a post!

Edit: Removing duplicate "post" lol

NyassaV · May 2018

danno8 wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

Lol, so you are posting a video about broken cheese, while trying to reference another video with broken cheese to make a point about a nerf to a completely different skill, all wrapped up in the false pretense that you don't know what is going on in the video you posted?

How could anyone misunderstand what you were trying to do?

wut... make sense plz?

ccfeeling · May 2018

Strife nerfing , thats the zos only option to make all pvpers claim down.

40 percent seems too much, i would say yes absoutely, we all know Zos weak at maths.

New skill elemental weapon can replace strife, this is a all class usable spam skill, we dont have to worry

HuawaSepp · May 2018

I can live with strife getting nerfed furher every patch now that we have elemental weapon.
But where is our class exclusive self heal?
Only Siphoning Attacks? That comes not even close to what other classes have.
I want compensation for not compensating this in first place.

_Ahala_ · May 2018

Guess it will be easier to balance classes when no one uses class skills anymore... no variety? Fun...

ccfeeling · May 2018

HuawaSepp wrote: »

I can live with strife getting nerfed furher every patch now that we have elemental weapon.
But where is our class exclusive self heal?
Only Siphoning Attacks? That comes not even close to what other classes have.
I want compensation for not compensating this in first place.

Sad to say, slot Malevolent Offering in bad enviroment...

I doubt that we will break new parser record with elemental weapon, what it mean we will face new nerf phase again.

No body care our survibilty....

Saint_Bud · May 2018

Strife must be nerft. Without a nerf you will not use the new psijic skill as your spam skill. Its cheaper and gives you better results. Its not just strife, evey spamskill will get useless. And i know, no one beside zos like it.

Dymence · May 2018

NyassaV wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know what was going on in that video before I posted it.

You should really just delete the post with a "NVM, I messed up" and move on.

I know exactly what was going on in the video XD There wasn't much reason to post it other then for kicks. Just like there is no reason to nerf strife

If I were you I'd be embarrassed that I start every conversation assuming everyone but myself is an idiot. (Trust me, I've tried it. Not a good policy)

Being able to admit when you were wrong is a virtue.

Lexxypwns · May 2018

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

But imbue costs less than what they're making strife to be

Lucky28 · May 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

it's a matter of class identity and there actually being a reason to play the class you want to play. i don't *** care about DPS numbers and cost matching up i want my magblade to feel and play like a magblade if i wanted to play a sorcerer i would play a sorcerer.

and what you're saying is basically how all the good MMO's over the years lost mass amounts of players and ultimately died. it's not only an unpopular opinion your expressing but a bad direction for development. when all the classes play the same and all the builds are the same and there is no room for players imagination, games die. simple as that.

exeeter702 · May 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

Ive made this case in great detail numerous times. Its pointless, the majority are beyond reason.

exeeter702 · May 2018

Lucky28 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

it's a matter of class identity and there actually being a reason to play the class you want to play. i don't *** care about DPS numbers and cost matching up i want my magblade to feel and play like a magblade if i wanted to play a sorcerer i would play a sorcerer.

and what you're saying is basically how all the good MMO's over the years lost mass amounts of players and ultimately died. it's not only an unpopular opinion your expressing but a bad direction for development. when all the classes play the same and all the builds are the same and there is no room for players imagination, games die. simple as that.

No it isnt, and seriously drop the hyperbolic nonsense regarding other mmos loosing player bases over things like this. If you dont give any *** for dps numbers than nothing is stopping you from using strife, you simply dont want to place value its utility or you want to worry less about sustain. Force pulse is not what makes a sorc, and any magic build using the destro skill does not make them a sorc either.

The value in strife and the chouce the developers are asking you to make is between its less damage, more utility for solo or ally helaing, or the raw damage from pulse. This has absolutely nothing to do with class identity.

exeeter702 · May 2018

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

But imbue costs less than what they're making strife to be

And the psijic skill line contains much less direct passives that will influence choosing IW over pulse or strife in pve and pvp when you consider the trade offs your making. As a skill, IW is bound to the range of you weapon, and the delayed damage ramp of the spell orb passive and the passive barrier are not exclusively enabled by IW. These factors are considered when you are weighing the cost budget of the skill.

Lucky28 · May 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

it's a matter of class identity and there actually being a reason to play the class you want to play. i don't *** care about DPS numbers and cost matching up i want my magblade to feel and play like a magblade if i wanted to play a sorcerer i would play a sorcerer.

and what you're saying is basically how all the good MMO's over the years lost mass amounts of players and ultimately died. it's not only an unpopular opinion your expressing but a bad direction for development. when all the classes play the same and all the builds are the same and there is no room for players imagination, games die. simple as that.

No it isnt, and seriously drop the hyperbolic nonsense regarding other mmos loosing player bases over things like this. If you dont give any *** for dps numbers than nothing is stopping you from using strife, you simply dont want to place value its utility or you want to worry less about sustain. Force pulse is not what makes a sorc, and any magic build using the destro skill does not make them a sorc either.

The value in strife and the chouce the developers are asking you to make is between its less damage, more utility for solo or ally helaing, or the raw damage from pulse. This has absolutely nothing to do with class identity.

no because that is the way magblade is supposed to play. they're not supposed to have massive burst heals or stupidly high shield stacks or be that tanky. they're identity as a class is their low cost abilities and good sustain this is a direct blow to the class and how it was originally envisioned and how players play the class.

and yes i've played by removing strife and replacing it with force pulse. it plays like a sorc it's rotation is basically the same as a sorc rotation and that's a problem.

and what i'm saying is: i do not want all DPS classes and rotations to be the same. that is a boring and unimaginative game.

mr_wazzabi · May 2018

Lucky28 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Strife is getting nerfed to bring it in line with other hard hitting spammables with long range and strong secondary effects, it’s not rocket science.

When all spammables perform within a couple of % of each other(dummy parses don’t count), then there is no reason why they should have significantly different costs. It’s really that simple.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I also don’t care, it’s simple logic guys. Now it’s cost is in line with force pulse and imbue while offering a unique class based flavor in a spammable. It’s that simple. If you want unreflective use pulse, if you want guarantee status use imbue, if you want healing use strife

it's a matter of class identity and there actually being a reason to play the class you want to play. i don't *** care about DPS numbers and cost matching up i want my magblade to feel and play like a magblade if i wanted to play a sorcerer i would play a sorcerer.

and what you're saying is basically how all the good MMO's over the years lost mass amounts of players and ultimately died. it's not only an unpopular opinion your expressing but a bad direction for development. when all the classes play the same and all the builds are the same and there is no room for players imagination, games die. simple as that.

No it isnt, and seriously drop the hyperbolic nonsense regarding other mmos loosing player bases over things like this. If you dont give any *** for dps numbers than nothing is stopping you from using strife, you simply dont want to place value its utility or you want to worry less about sustain. Force pulse is not what makes a sorc, and any magic build using the destro skill does not make them a sorc either.

The value in strife and the chouce the developers are asking you to make is between its less damage, more utility for solo or ally helaing, or the raw damage from pulse. This has absolutely nothing to do with class identity.

no because that is the way magblade is supposed to play. they're not supposed to have massive burst heals or stupidly high shield stacks or be that tanky. they're identity as a class is their low cost abilities and good sustain this is a direct blow to the class and how it was originally envisioned and how players play the class.

and yes i've played by removing strife and replacing it with force pulse. it plays like a sorc it's rotation is basically the same as a sorc rotation and that's a problem.

and what i'm saying is: i do not want all DPS classes and rotations to be the same. that is a boring and unimaginative game.

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34k EZ DPS with S&amp;B so why we nerfing strife???

34k EZ DPS with S&B so why we nerfing strife???