Fishing, any advice.

Stinkyremy · May 2018

Apart from the well known knowledge of fishing in groups and using the right bait for the right water, does anyone have any advice or advanced tips for fishing.

There are 2 different bait for water, one from the overworld, one found in water, does the bait found in the water make any difference in chances of getting rare fish?

I have been sparingly solo fishing in stonefalls for months and I cannot get 3 blue fish from foul, river and lake water, but while going for a green fish from ocean water I got the blue fish multiple times. What is up with this?

NovaMarx · May 2018

Fishing in ESO is heavily RNG based, and a definite grind. There isn't any real difference from using any of the 2 different types of bait, unfortunately - again the RNG is so strong that it is pretty much purely luck based.

I have been fishing on several of my past toons, but have only recently decided to go all out to get all the achievements on one char. I so far have AD and EP completed, and am working on completing the rest.

The only real advice I have for anyone fishing is to do it as they natural go through zones questing, to reduce the feeling of grind. The way I have gotten most of my fish have been from forcing myself to fish at every hole I pass - it takes discipline and it not always fun, but it's gotten me this far in my journey

I have been in debates since PC beta, wanting them to tweak how fishing works, but it has never been touched - and most likely never will. So we just have to live with the killer RNG.

Stinkyremy · May 2018

NovaMarx wrote: »

Fishing in ESO is heavily RNG based, and a definite grind. There isn't any real difference from using any of the 2 different types of bait, unfortunately - again the RNG is so strong that it is pretty much purely luck based.

I have been fishing on several of my past toons, but have only recently decided to go all out to get all the achievements on one char. I so far have AD and EP completed, and am working on completing the rest.

The only real advice I have for anyone fishing is to do it as they natural go through zones questing, to reduce the feeling of grind. The way I have gotten most of my fish have been from forcing myself to fish at every hole I pass - it takes discipline and it not always fun, but it's gotten me this far in my journey

I have been in debates since PC beta, wanting them to tweak how fishing works, but it has never been touched - and most likely never will. So we just have to live with the killer RNG.

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately I have done every quest, this is a real late game activity for me, it is just about grinding through it.
I will do it, I don't have much to do on my main other than grind fishing, Trials and PvP

FloppyTouch · May 2018

Beer

VaranisArano · May 2018

I read while I fish. I did my first character's Master Angler without add-ons, but if you are on PC, I can't recommend Votan's Fisherman enough. The audio cue when its time to reel in the fish has made going for Master Angler a 2nd time so much more enjoyable.

SugaComa · May 2018

If you have children who are young enough to enjoy fishing ... Get them to do it while you do other things like make lunch , tidy the garage etc

If you don't have young kids start a child labour ... I mean baby sitting service

jlmurra2 · May 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Beer

That can help mitigate all the RNG disappointment, not only fishing.

AlnilamE · May 2018

Fish while waiting for other things. Are you a DPS? Do you do pledges? Queue for pledges and fish while you wait for the group to form.

Don't be discouraged by RNG. You'll get the Blue Monkfish and the Midget Salmon eventually!

jedtb16_ESO · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Apart from the well known knowledge of fishing in groups and using the right bait for the right water, does anyone have any advice or advanced tips for fishing.

There are 2 different bait for water, one from the overworld, one found in water, does the bait found in the water make any difference in chances of getting rare fish?

I have been sparingly solo fishing in stonefalls for months and I cannot get 3 blue fish from foul, river and lake water, but while going for a green fish from ocean water I got the blue fish multiple times. What is up with this?

nope, none whatsoever.

pinkempyreal · May 2018

I usually caught up on some tv shows on my second monitor while I fished. Using Votans Fisherman for the reel in sound queue and then setting all volumes other than UI off make it easy to just lay back and relax with my controller. I also transitioned to a work from home position so some days when I was on lengthy phone calls or in meetings I was also fishing!

I've gotten my Master Angler but sometimes I wish I was more motivated to fish every time I watched TV just as a side way to perhaps make some gold on my ESO "downtime". Anyway, best of luck to you!

NovaMarx · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

NovaMarx wrote: »

Fishing in ESO is heavily RNG based, and a definite grind. There isn't any real difference from using any of the 2 different types of bait, unfortunately - again the RNG is so strong that it is pretty much purely luck based.

I have been fishing on several of my past toons, but have only recently decided to go all out to get all the achievements on one char. I so far have AD and EP completed, and am working on completing the rest.

The only real advice I have for anyone fishing is to do it as they natural go through zones questing, to reduce the feeling of grind. The way I have gotten most of my fish have been from forcing myself to fish at every hole I pass - it takes discipline and it not always fun, but it's gotten me this far in my journey

I have been in debates since PC beta, wanting them to tweak how fishing works, but it has never been touched - and most likely never will. So we just have to live with the killer RNG.

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately I have done every quest, this is a real late game activity for me, it is just about grinding through it.
I will do it, I don't have much to do on my main other than grind fishing, Trials and PvP

RIP

Well my only other advice then would be to do it while watching something on the side. The beauty of dual-monitors, as I have, is that I usually watch some YT or such - makes the experience more enjoyable. And if you don't have dual monitor, just use your phone or tablet or TV

Good luck out there!

Violynne · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

There are 2 different bait for water, one from the overworld, one found in water, does the bait found in the water make any difference in chances of getting rare fish?

Sadly, no. It's just another wasted cast, along with gummy sacks and home decorations.

I have been sparingly solo fishing in stonefalls for months and I cannot get 3 blue fish from foul, river and lake water, but while going for a green fish from ocean water I got the blue fish multiple times. What is up with this?

It's called "Zenimax Math", as developers who work for Zenimax clearly do not understand odds or percentages, and instead, use a ridiculous system to "randomize" "percentages" while throwing out artificially and completely unnecessary cool down timers.

I've heard fishing in groups helps increase the catch rate of rare fish, but the only thing I've seen of this is a faster closing of a fish hole. I've not personally seen any improvements vs. going solo. The game isn't really too clear on what constitutes a "group" to raise the chance. 5? 22? The entire player base of ESO? Who knows.

This next one may be coincidence, but I could swear I catch more blue fish while it's raining. I just caught another last night, and it started raining when I caught it.

There's also a legendary drink titled "Hissmir Fish-Eye Rye", which helps identify the fish in the water. Not sure how useful it is. In fact, I don't think I've personally ever seen the drink or the recipe. Huh.

Just from my experience, I tend to have better "luck" going solo. I say this only because in some spots, having a hole dry up much faster when a group is at it seems counter-intuitive if you have to stand around 30 minutes waiting for the hole to respawn after it closes in 2 minutes, when at solo, you have it for at least 6 minutes to yourself.

So pull up a chair and get busy. You'll be at it a while, no matter what option you choose.

Nestor · May 2018

Violynne wrote: »

I've heard fishing in groups helps increase the catch rate of rare fish, but the only thing I've seen of this is a faster closing of a fish hole. I've not personally seen any improvements vs. going solo. The game isn't really too clear on what constitutes a "group" to raise the chance. 5? 22? The entire player base of ESO? Who knows.

In my experience, and it has been a while since I have done this, is the group needs to be 5 to 6 people, or more. 2 or 3 others gives a slight increase but nothing notable. And, you have to be actually grouped with them, as that is the only time I have fished and pulled mostly Trophy Fish from a hole.

It is relatively easy to be in a 3 or 4 person group and fish, it's finding more people than that where the difficulties are, outside maybe a guild fishing event.

Stinkyremy · May 2018

Violynne wrote: »

There's also a legendary drink titled "Hissmir Fish-Eye Rye", which helps identify the fish in the water. Not sure how useful it is. In fact, I don't think I've personally ever seen the drink or the recipe. Huh.

I have fish eye rye, i have used it a few times you can see the holes like the keen eye passives for crafting and it tells you what type of water it is, though it doesn't say "lake, river, ocean, foul" like the community know of the types of water. it just says "fresh, salt" ect.
you can make it out but I never have an issue finding water, or what type it is, plus I would use an online guide on my laptop showing where the types of water are.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Beer

Yep, exactly what I was doing last night.

SantieClaws · May 2018

Ask the bard to play some upbeat music

Fish with friends

Bring snacks

Always gut your fish at the Shrine of the Fishies at the Fishmas Grotto

Hand 10% of all your perfect roe to the Khajiit Benevolent Fund for the Promotion of Fishmas (donations can be made via the Bank of Khajiit)

Respect the salmon!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

lihentian · May 2018

personally i think they should allow afk fishing.. or at least make it more fun more rewarding... atm fishing is just for killing time.. or perfect roe grind...

jedtb16_ESO · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

There's also a legendary drink titled "Hissmir Fish-Eye Rye", which helps identify the fish in the water. Not sure how useful it is. In fact, I don't think I've personally ever seen the drink or the recipe. Huh.

I have fish eye rye, i have used it a few times you can see the holes like the keen eye passives for crafting and it tells you what type of water it is, though it doesn't say "lake, river, ocean, foul" like the community know of the types of water. it just says "fresh, salt" ect.
you can make it out but I never have an issue finding water, or what type it is, plus I would use an online guide on my laptop showing where the types of water are.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Beer

Yep, exactly what I was doing last night.

^this. it was one of those things that looked interesting on first sight but became clear immediately afterwards that it is of no practical value. tells you the kind of water you are looking at but if you're serious about fishing you know anyway. it also gives a boost to stam and mag regen.... i'm sure you'll agree that's essential for fishing.

JKorr · May 2018

Don't explain to the posters/players who gloat that they leave "the trash" in nodes for someone else that "the trash" is probably worth more than the other mats from the node.

I've bought motifs with gold from worms/crawlers..... Someday I'll actually fish with it instead of selling.

Lysette · May 2018

pinkempyreal wrote: »

I usually caught up on some tv shows on my second monitor while I fished. Using Votans Fisherman for the reel in sound queue and then setting all volumes other than UI off make it easy to just lay back and relax with my controller. I also transitioned to a work from home position so some days when I was on lengthy phone calls or in meetings I was also fishing!

I've gotten my Master Angler but sometimes I wish I was more motivated to fish every time I watched TV just as a side way to perhaps make some gold on my ESO "downtime". Anyway, best of luck to you!

How do you make gold from fishing?- Those rare fish I caught are all character bound.

Cryptical · May 2018

Lysette wrote: »

pinkempyreal wrote: »

I usually caught up on some tv shows on my second monitor while I fished. Using Votans Fisherman for the reel in sound queue and then setting all volumes other than UI off make it easy to just lay back and relax with my controller. I also transitioned to a work from home position so some days when I was on lengthy phone calls or in meetings I was also fishing!

I've gotten my Master Angler but sometimes I wish I was more motivated to fish every time I watched TV just as a side way to perhaps make some gold on my ESO "downtime". Anyway, best of luck to you!

How do you make gold from fishing?- Those rare fish I caught are all character bound.

Xbox na - stack of fish are around 20 to 25k. Perfect roe. Some people pay extra for the rare bait.

I made my first million by selling the raw fish from my master angler grind.

maltinkilic · May 2018

Ok so some answers first. Normal bait or special baits doesn't affect your rate fishing chance (catching a foul rare with roe fish or crawler is same).

Now some math. You have 5% chance to catch a rare fish when you are alone per reel. For each person fishing the same hole the chance increases by 5% and caps at 20%(so it caps at 4 ppl).

When you catch a rare it is 1/8 blue.

To summarize when you are fishing alone you have 0.625% chance to catch a rare blue per each reel.

freespirit · May 2018

I just hope your character is AD.........

If not you may want to make sure you have a fast mount before you go do the Cyrodiil fish!!

Stinkyremy · May 2018

freespirit wrote: »

I just hope your character is AD.........

Why?
EP rule most servers on PS4 EU.
I am EP, i'm max CP, full horse stats, cyodiil will be the last one I do, then DLC, I will do cyrodiil late at night when the server is empty, same with imp city

maltinkilic · May 2018

Never-ever fish coldharbor alone. All the waters there are foul. You will catch the same blue 4-5 times before you fish the last blue you need.

Katahdin · May 2018

Go early and often
Patience

Coffee and egg sammich for the morning
Roast beef sammich for lunch
Beer and chips for the afternoon
A good pair of boots

Katahdin · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

I just hope your character is AD.........

Why?
EP rule most servers on PS4 EU.
I am EP, i'm max CP, full horse stats, cyodiil will be the last one I do, then DLC, I will do cyrodiil late at night when the server is empty, same with imp city

Cause the only salt water spawns in all of Cyrodiil are next to the AD gate

Stinkyremy · May 2018

Katahdin wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

I just hope your character is AD.........

Why?
EP rule most servers on PS4 EU.
I am EP, i'm max CP, full horse stats, cyodiil will be the last one I do, then DLC, I will do cyrodiil late at night when the server is empty, same with imp city

Cause the only salt water spawns in all of Cyrodiil are next to the AD gate

ohhhh, i best get some invis pots and a nb friend to help me then.

Tan9oSuccka · May 2018

Spotify was a life saver with the fishing boredom.

This site was a big help too:

http://teso-guides.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-fishing-maps-ebonheart-pact

maltinkilic · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

I just hope your character is AD.........

Why?
EP rule most servers on PS4 EU.
I am EP, i'm max CP, full horse stats, cyodiil will be the last one I do, then DLC, I will do cyrodiil late at night when the server is empty, same with imp city

Cause the only salt water spawns in all of Cyrodiil are next to the AD gate

ohhhh, i best get some invis pots and a nb friend to help me then.

No need to worry about AD zone. Once you pass the last AD keep you are safe. No one will check along coasts to see any DC/EP fishing. Fishing in cyro was easy for me never got ganked and in imperial city I only ganked once, also a decent enemy player saw me fishing in imp city and joined me fishing till I cleared the hole and left without attacking me.

tinythinker · May 2018

NovaMarx wrote: »

Fishing in ESO is heavily RNG based, and a definite grind.

^ this is very true

But you can fish while watching or listening to something like sportsball competitions, podcast, people in a Discord group, etc.

And friends (or people you pick up in zone chat) not only make it more fun but also increases the chance of catching rares.

TheRealPotoroo · May 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Apart from the well known knowledge of fishing in groups and using the right bait for the right water, does anyone have any advice or advanced tips for fishing.

There are 2 different bait for water, one from the overworld, one found in water, does the bait found in the water make any difference in chances of getting rare fish?

I have been sparingly solo fishing in stonefalls for months and I cannot get 3 blue fish from foul, river and lake water, but while going for a green fish from ocean water I got the blue fish multiple times. What is up with this?

You have not made the right sacrifices to RNGesus.

Getting the remaining blues is simply a matter of bloody-minded persistence. It took me over 1k guts to get the second lake blue in Bangkorai. OTOH, I did Deshaan in under two hours. Go figure.