How TES6 will affect ESO population

Integral1900 · April 2018

It’s five or six years away at least, and even if it does come out it will be another mmo timed to release as this one declines, they have proven an elder scrolls mmo can be done. There will not be any more single player ones.

Kajuratus · April 2018

Integral1900 wrote: »

It’s five or six years away at least, and even if it does come out it will be another mmo timed to release as this one declines, they have proven an elder scrolls mmo can be done. There will not be any more single player ones.

I wouldn't necessarily say an MMO, more like a live service type of game. Yes, an Elder Scrolls MMO will sell, but ESO vastly underperformed compared to the levels they were hoping for. Bethesda Game Studios recently merged with Battlecry Studios, who themselves were making the game Battlecry, which from what we saw was intended to be a free to play multiplayer action combat game for up to 32 players. It wouldn't surprise me if the new BGS studio in Austin were planning to make some sort of Live service, which could be Elder Scrolls related and be completely separate from the Maryland and Montreal Studios. On the other hand, they could be implementing live service type "features" into the next "three big projects" that BGS has lined up.

negbert · April 2018

I’ll take time to play the new one whenever it arrives but I’ll continue to play ESO for the social aspects. In that respect they don’t compete. Taking a few weeks off now and then to play something else helps reduce burnout anyway.

inthecoconut · April 2018

Too early to say either way. I need to see what the game is like. Just because it is TES6, it doesn't automatically make it a good game. I'll be interested, sure. But like every game, I need to see what it is first.

Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of the open-world formula that every game has adopted in recent years.

Chaos2088 · April 2018

If the new ES6 game went across all of nirn, oblivion, aetherius and other places then yes I would get it.

But if it is just one area of Tamriel then I may pass on it.

Thealteregoroman · April 2018

Damn....yall coming for this persons neck LOL.

Vhozek · April 2018

They will NOT flood the market with Skyrim VR, Summerset Isles chapter, and TES6 in 1 year. Don't expect TES6 til they're ready to kill ESO. What I do see happening is Morrowind remastered though because the anticipation for that is not as great as TES6, they have Morrowind assets in ESO, and it's a good distraction from TES6. Doubt it would hurt ESO as significantly as TES6 would.

exeeter702 · April 2018

Chaos2088 wrote: »

If the new ES6 game went across all of nirn, oblivion, aetherius and other places then yes I would get it.

But if it is just one area of Tamriel then I may pass on it.

You would have to be incredibly naive to think for a second that a full AAA open world rpg with the budget that usually accompanies that, would have enough girth to encompass all of the locations you have listed as they are portrayed in ES lore with adequte attention to detail.

The next Tes game will most defintely be an isolated key location / region, with "rpg" elements that would make fallout 4 blush. Frankly, production values are no longer a selling point for me when it comes to the single player games that bethesda *** out.

Nyladreas · April 2018

jcaceresw wrote: »

Is still several years before we get a new Elder Scrolls game. Even when Bethesda release the new IP they are working I may just leave the game temporally. Because of the daily rewards I may try to log each two or three days to claim the rewards and avoid the guild traders of kicking me.

All of this changes if HalfLife 3 were released. I will wanna play it until I finish it and play it again a number of infinite times.

@jcaceresw this might interest you then. https://www.projectborealis.com some of the devs they have aren't just fans but people who worked on successful titles.

Azuramoonstar · May 2018

Vhozek wrote: »

They will NOT flood the market with Skyrim VR, Summerset Isles chapter, and TES6 in 1 year. Don't expect TES6 til they're ready to kill ESO. What I do see happening is Morrowind remastered though because the anticipation for that is not as great as TES6, they have Morrowind assets in ESO, and it's a good distraction from TES6. Doubt it would hurt ESO as significantly as TES6 would.

solo player games do not effect the time if MMo

SE runs 2 mmo and has games come out with those mmo. The mmo market and rpg market are not the same.

Sting864 · May 2018

Kajuratus wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

It’s five or six years away at least, and even if it does come out it will be another mmo timed to release as this one declines, they have proven an elder scrolls mmo can be done. There will not be any more single player ones.

I wouldn't necessarily say an MMO, more like a live service type of game. Yes, an Elder Scrolls MMO will sell, but ESO vastly underperformed compared to the levels they were hoping for. Bethesda Game Studios recently merged with Battlecry Studios, who themselves were making the game Battlecry, which from what we saw was intended to be a free to play multiplayer action combat game for up to 32 players. It wouldn't surprise me if the new BGS studio in Austin were planning to make some sort of Live service, which could be Elder Scrolls related and be completely separate from the Maryland and Montreal Studios. On the other hand, they could be implementing live service type "features" into the next "three big projects" that BGS has lined up.

I don't know where this "ESO vastly underperformed..." stuff is coming from.... ESO has sold over 10 million copies (so far...) and was voted "Best MMO" for 2015, 2016 and 2017 by MMORPG.com...
Considering Zenimax Online Studios developed ESO... not Bethesda, or Bethesda's owner, Zenimax Media, Bethesda's merger is irrelevant....

Mureel · May 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Pretty sure lots of us started anticipating TES 6 roughly about the time we finished Skyrim (I say "finished" but I still keep booting it up and making new characters.)

I know I'm going to take a break from ESO when it finally does come out.

This.

Yzalirk · May 2018

There is literally zero information regarding the next installment. Why is this even a topic of discussion?

Azuramoonstar · May 2018

Sting864 wrote: »

Kajuratus wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

It’s five or six years away at least, and even if it does come out it will be another mmo timed to release as this one declines, they have proven an elder scrolls mmo can be done. There will not be any more single player ones.

I wouldn't necessarily say an MMO, more like a live service type of game. Yes, an Elder Scrolls MMO will sell, but ESO vastly underperformed compared to the levels they were hoping for. Bethesda Game Studios recently merged with Battlecry Studios, who themselves were making the game Battlecry, which from what we saw was intended to be a free to play multiplayer action combat game for up to 32 players. It wouldn't surprise me if the new BGS studio in Austin were planning to make some sort of Live service, which could be Elder Scrolls related and be completely separate from the Maryland and Montreal Studios. On the other hand, they could be implementing live service type "features" into the next "three big projects" that BGS has lined up.

I don't know where this "ESO vastly underperformed..." stuff is coming from.... ESO has sold over 10 million copies (so far...) and was voted "Best MMO" for 2015, 2016 and 2017 by MMORPG.com...
Considering Zenimax Online Studios developed ESO... not Bethesda, or Bethesda's owner, Zenimax Media, Bethesda's merger is irrelevant....

you got proof of those rewards? i know ff14 was labeled the best mmo a few times across a few sites. ESO did fail at launch due to the poor mash up of MMo + TES game play. having to pre order the collecters edition to unlock imperials. It gained traction with One tamerial which fixed most stuff.

Darkstorne · May 2018

Yzalirk wrote: »

There is literally zero information regarding the next installment. Why is this even a topic of discussion?

You would be amazed how many people are expecting a TES6 announcement at this year's E3. Despite all the lengths Bethesda have gone to telling people the next game is a new IP and not TES, the game after that is also not TES, and although TES6 will eventually happen it's not even begun development yet and won't begin for a very long time.

I feel sorry for Bethesda at this point. They'll want to impress with Starfield but we'll genuinely see a lot of "WHERE WAS TES6!?" comments.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · May 2018

The better question to ask is how will ESO affect TES 6.

Mainly how TES 6 might become the new HL3

sekou_trayvond · May 2018

The better question to ask is "how will the next creation of genius from Todd Howard and BGS effect ESO"

I don't care what Todd and his team put out next. Buh bye ESO for a decent spell while I cavort in that world.

Aesthier · May 2018

DuskMarine wrote: »

yea when es3 and oblivion were still roaring strong i modded them and those 2 had major replayability that lasted me years of time but when skyrim came out i played it once through the story was meh and kinda boring the sidequests were just eh at best. then the modding community came along and gave it another week for me then i was like why am i even still playing skyrim so i bought eso on console first never touched skyrim again. then they started monetizing their mods for skyrim so. really i see es6 coming maybe in the year 2030 but the max life that game will have is alot shorter than any other elder scrolls game for the reason being they started monetizing mods meaning theyll start outlawing the communities mods. so play the game through once and beat it and never touch it again cause the replayability is gonna be crap or pony up money to them to mod your game to extend the life maybe a week to a month.

I can understand that.

If I was paying for my mods I probably wouldn't play either but I don't and it has quadrupled the lifespan of the game for me. Added to that is the fact I can use the Creation Kit and make my own mods (I really enjoy making new player homes the most that fit with the environment) and that pretty much makes Skyrim the last great single player game for me.

Mureel · May 2018

sekou_trayvond wrote: »

The better question to ask is "how will the next creation of genius from Todd Howard and BGS effect ESO"

I don't care what Todd and his team put out next. Buh bye ESO for a decent spell while I cavort in that world.

What's BGS again? I have plenty of CP to quit eso for like a year...

Androconium · May 2018

OverDream wrote: »

Will ESO community leave the project for trying TES6?

1. You DO GO ON.
2. MMO hardliners will get ESO to themselves.
3. MMO hardliners will rejoice when all their PvP wishes come true.
4. Proper TES players will leave in droves, scarred irreversibly by the MMO experience.

1. Thank me later.
2. Just send money.

You know I'm right (i knowz punkchuation).

Violynne · May 2018

Darkstorne wrote: »

You would be amazed how many people are expecting a TES6 announcement at this year's E3. Despite all the lengths Bethesda have gone to telling people the next game is a new IP and not TES, the game after that is also not TES, and although TES6 will eventually happen it's not even begun development yet and won't begin for a very long time.

This is from the same PR team which told people they weren't working on Fallout 4, only to release it the very next year, and then told everyone how much better the game was compared to Fallout 3.

In other words: people should ignore lies when they hear/see them.

I feel sorry for Bethesda at this point. They'll want to impress with Starfield but we'll genuinely see a lot of "WHERE WAS TES6!?" comments.

Are you kidding me? Bethesda can light a bag of dog crap with their logo on fire, charge gamers $60 to stamp out the flames, and they'd laugh all the way to the bank watching these people act like idiots over a bag on fire.

"New IP" is subjective when using the same crappy engine brought to us in Morrowind. No, not ESO Morrowind, Elder Scrolls III Morrowind. "Upgrades" still means same broken engine.

Whitewashing a bunch of tired fetch quests with new "space paint" will sell by Bethesda. There's no issue on that front whatsoever.

No matter what Bethesda throws out this November, the one thing I can count on is ESO will be a pleasant experience while people are stamping out flaming bags of crap.

OverDream · May 2018

what info is currently for TES6, will it be on shelves this year?

Kalgert · May 2018

I'll likely stick with ESO over any new installment of the Elder Scrolls.

Skyrim's Creation Club kind of soured my mood for any newer releases from Bethesda, which means I am not likely to spend my time in those games.

Heck, I am still living in Oblivion's age.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · May 2018

OverDream wrote: »

what info is currently for TES6, will it be on shelves this year?

No. Hines and Howard have both said 2 new releases first then TES6. At least 5+ years... Prob...

exeeter702 · May 2018

Mureel wrote: »

sekou_trayvond wrote: »

The better question to ask is "how will the next creation of genius from Todd Howard and BGS effect ESO"

I don't care what Todd and his team put out next. Buh bye ESO for a decent spell while I cavort in that world.

sekou_trayvond wrote: »

The better question to ask is "how will the next creation of genius from Todd Howard and BGS effect ESO"

I don't care what Todd and his team put out next. Buh bye ESO for a decent spell while I cavort in that world.

What's BGS again? I have plenty of CP to quit eso for like a year...

Bethesda game studios

rikimm16_ESO · May 2018

TES6 won’t happen for a few more years...

They are probably still working to get a new engine to work. No way they’ll use the same engine as Fallout or previous Eder Scrolls based on the backlash received in Fallout4 when players were comparing the engine with The Witcher 3.

exeeter702 · May 2018

Sorry, but if its anything like skyrim in the actual gameplay department, ill pass.

Skyrim for me was meh at best, little depth in the rpg department. It was clearly an open world rpg for the masses. Then fallout 4 came out officially downgraded bethesda from once upon a time being "automatic buy" to "i am likely not going to be impressed, so convince me otherwise".

Skryim was "role playing game for dummies" and Fallout 4 was a toilet bowl, come at me.

teiselaise · May 2018

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Is this like half-life 3?

Sadly, I suspect traditional TES will get Half-Life 3'd. ESO is a far better return on investment than a traditional TES game, much like Steam and TF2 microtransactions were better ROI for Valve, it just didn't make sense as a business for them to keep making Half-Life. Zeni is more likely to produce an ESO 2 at this point.

I hope I'm wrong.

I believe you are indeed wrong, zeni aren't producing the elder scrolls game, Beth is, by Beth I mean the beth studio, not big beth. It would surprise me if they trashed all their non mmorpg ip's just because they're a worse investment than eso.

Sevn · May 2018

I must be part of the special gamer group that can play multiple games concurrently. I also think lots of players play ESO because they enjoy it, not because they are just using it as a placeholder for the next TES game. TES6 isn't coming anytime soon in any regard.

I'll most likely play ESO until the servers go down, I find a better game or the game moves too far in a direction I don't agree with.

NeKryXe · May 2018

well... it took me about 500 hours to complete all achievements, dlcs, quests and side quests on TES5. probably i'll need the same time to finish TES6 and then I'll return to TESO

plain and simple.