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Are bare fists Light and Heavies buffed as well?
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Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭Interested to know this as well. I will try it out later on PTS if I remember! I usually go unarmed in overland PvE to have some challenge.Edited by Moloch1514 on April 28, 2018 5:48AMPC-NA5
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Marginis✭✭✭✭✭Buffed how, and by what? Are you asking about if they restore stamina, or if they count as light and heavies for effects, or if they get buffed by things that affect light and heavy attacks, or something else entirely?@Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others.0 -
Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LA and HA now scale at a 10.5:1 ratio of resources:damage instead of a 40:1 ratio.
He wants to know if that also includes unarmed attacks.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Buffed how, and by what? Are you asking about if they restore stamina, or if they count as light and heavies for effects, or if they get buffed by things that affect light and heavy attacks, or something else entirely?
think he's referring to the universal buffs/nerfs to all light and heavy attacks with weapons.PS4 / NA
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unarmed and Unarmored was a very popular, and quite powerful, skill line is earlier TES games (Morrowind and IIRC Daggerfall had it)
This is some thing I would like to see come back to the game.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just tested this on a stam DK and the light attack damage was exactly the same for crit/non crit punches on Live vs. PTS.Edited by Moloch1514 on April 28, 2018 5:48AMPC-NA0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »Interested to know this as well. I will try it out later on PTS if I remember! I ususally go unarmed in overland PvE to have some challenge.
should be buffed by your stamina stats. But weapon dmg is so small, it might be a buff for unarmed niche builds. Since the max stat governs the new LA scaling, you wont need to worry about weapon dmg as much.
Probably still role a DK for the 40% heavy attack buff (which works on fists lol)Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Marginis✭✭✭✭✭I'll see if I can test this personally for you, sometime after I get off work tonight or sometime tomorrow, if someone else doesn't get to it first.
EDIT: From one console player to another, I feel your pain. The PTS is really nice to have in your back pocket.Edited by Marginis on April 27, 2018 5:46PM@Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others.0 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Can you double bar a bare knuckled build? I think tried this long ago but it didn't work.0 -
Marginis✭✭✭✭✭Bladerunner1 wrote: »Can you double bar a bare knuckled build? I think tried this long ago but it didn't work.
Nope, if you don't have two weapons equipped you cannot swap bars. Even with one weapon equipped you still cannot swap. I could test this in PTS too though, just in case it changed.@Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Bladerunner1 wrote: »Can you double bar a bare knuckled build? I think tried this long ago but it didn't work.
Nope, if you don't have two weapons equipped you cannot swap bars. Even with one weapon equipped you still cannot swap. I could test this in PTS too though, just in case it changed.
that would be a buff to unarmed troll builds if you can barswap on pts.
But as far as I know you can't use 2 bars with unarmed. You can however slot a shield or an offhand weapon and still use fists. you will retain some benefit from the weapon slotted.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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wozborne✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »Just tested this on a stam DK and the light attack damage was exactly the same for crit/non crit punches on Live vs. PTS.
Thanks for testing. Kind of disappointing, may even signal that ZoS has forgotten unarmed as a weapon even exists. Does not bode well for ever getting a fist skill line.Edited by wozborne on April 28, 2018 3:51PM0 -
Marginis✭✭✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »Just tested this on a stam DK and the light attack damage was exactly the same for crit/non crit punches on Live vs. PTS.
Thanks for testing. Kind of disappointing, may even signal that ZoS has forgotten unarmed as a even exists. Does not bode well for ever getting a fist skill line.
The series as a whole has been stepping away from unarmed builds, generally. There is still a call for it, hence TESV mods, but it does make sense from a certain gameplay perspective. Might be a compromise if they make a dagger motif or something that just looks like fists, so it would at least look like you are punching giant dungeon bosses.@Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others.0