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Anyone else hate staves?
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Talking about magic 'making sense' is going deep amigo
What makes sense to me is a mage having a sword. Zap em at range, stab em up close.Xbox One | EU | EP
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't exactly hate them... I just would want an alternative! Like the "Spell Foci" idea I keep mentioning along with my other thoughts of weapons: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-iiAnyone else hate staves?
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Azuramoonstar✭✭✭✭Talking about magic 'making sense' is going deep amigo
What makes sense to me is a mage having a sword. Zap em at range, stab em up close.
not all magic comes from the human, it can come from a focus.
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mikejezz✭✭✭✭I just hate the looks of them. There’s no really cool stages in the game.
I want a scythe! I know there’s one, but it looks more like a sign post than a scythe.0 -
Medakon✭✭✭Medakon - Legendary Super Hero Professional Assassin Nightblade from Tamriel who do different stuff
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✭I don't mind them, I just wish there was more variety when it comes to magic based weapons...0 -
Anastian✭✭✭emilyhyoyeon wrote: »I actually never liked that casting always required a free hand in the other TES games (I think, in the single player games, it should be both). But yeah I wish there were more magicka weapon options (not staves) even though I also want alteration and illusion staves to be added
Oh my, alteration and illusion staves *_*0 -
tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Azuramoonstar wrote: »my guess none of you understand how staves work?
you cast the magic the staff is a focus point. you put magic in the staff as a focus and release the energy.
In TES staves are enchanted and the magic comes from the staff itself.
of the mmo and rpg i played ESO/TES staves make the most sense.tinythinker wrote: »I'm hoping sword and rune becomes a thing as teased before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxVRzbNHyQI
Something like that worked out for another MMO
rdm is ff14 is actually over powered. the way the class works us the orb attaches to the hilt of the rapier and acts as a staff. you have to balance black and white magic then go in with an enchanted sword to slash up before jumping away and picking a finisher spell. It can melee, cast nukes and has a strong cure. It can raise people and it has a duel cast trait that every other cast is instant.
I've played red mage, but the point isn't whether some people consider it OP. It is about the weapon style of the caster and the animations, particularly given the "sword and rune" and "sword and orb" requests that pop up from time to time on these forums.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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eso_nya✭✭✭✭✭
✭There _should_ be a free hands&kicks and staff martial arts line aswell as a free hands caster line w/ ability to cross them.0 -
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✭Heh I had another player ask me once How I make my character stand like that with my Staff as they hated how their character stood with theirs. Took me a bit to realize they meant the difference in stance between Destro/Resto0 -
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Heh there is a bug that happens when weapon swapping that crosses over your skill lines...it’s rather fun swinging your staff and shooting fireballs out of your swordForsakenSin wrote: »
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✭Ahhhh..........
never realized this itched some people so bad.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭I don't a have problem with them. To someone who mentioned staff animations in Dragon Age, I've always found those to be a little over-the-top personally.
The one thing I think looks really silly is the staff bash. It would make far more sense to me to bash with the butt end of the staff.Edited by Guarlet on April 26, 2018 2:14PMAKA The Goblinator, PC/EU0 -
Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. The animations and the way the staff is used in ESO is just dreadful.
If we have to use them, why not be like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGOJtrCppI 0 -
tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Anotherone773 wrote: »Magicka dual wield = wand+spellbook. Why isnt this a thing?
*prepares link to the Arcanist class from another game for animation of ranged spell-casters using books as their weapons to show what that might look like/entice readers to drool over the possibilities*
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In general the answer to the question of "Why not this type of weapon?" at minimum involves:- 5 new abilities, an ultimate, and passives that have to be theorycrafted and balanced with regard to other skills lines, gear sets, racial bonuses, etc.
- a suite of new art and animation and sound assets for the new weapon
- a place for the new weapon in the games combat system -- not just immediate balancing (see above) but the overall fit of such a weapon in the game and a function/purpose/role that is not already covered well enough by an existing weapon. That, and right now the greater number of stamina weapons is a counter-weight to a greater number of magicka-based class abilities
That's just to start.
Doesn't mean they won't ever do it, but it would be a long process that they would need to feel was worth the investment.
A simpler route is weapon skins.
We already have an outfit system that allows you to replace the appearance of a dagger with a sword. But, they both have similar animations, just swap out the object. To add a rune-and-sword look or a spellbook you would still need the second bullet above (a suite of new art and animation and sound assets for the new weapon) which would "reskin" a staff but the skill line and weapon functionality would remain the same.
To justify the cost these would be definitely be Crown Store purchases ("limited time offer to get the spellbook appearance for staves"/"try the new scythe appearance for two-handed melee today"/etc.).
edit for spelling ("route not root")
Edited by tinythinker on April 26, 2018 3:10PM❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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Eyro✭✭✭✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »Ahhhh..........
never realized this itched some people so bad.
It is way past itching for me! Into full on Burning now!Edited by Eyro on April 26, 2018 4:14PM0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Staves would be ok if they didn't have a triple wall between ur skills.
They don't boost all sources of damage. Only 8% to specific skill types.
You have to have an ability slotted to get the 8% from the staff line.
Less spell damage than DW.
If I choose a lightning staff on my magplar, he only gets puncturing sweeps boosted.
If I choose fire staff, all of my heavies will act like dark flare and be dodged and sweeps doesn't get boosted.
Only thing good about lightning staff on my magplar is lightning heavies...that's it. ***0 -
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✭✭I get so bored of sticks. I hardly ever play my magicka characters except magDK, but the flame staff fits with the theme of the class so it doesn't grate on me as much as the others. It gets old going poof poof poof with the stick all the time. Give me more options please. Enough with Elder Staves Online.0
