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10 gold daily reward...
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Avrael✭✭✭✭Im sure you wont get the later rewards if you dont claim the ones before. Zos isnt that nice to us."I mustache you a question."
"Well shave it for later."0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The daily awards are a trap. Don’t fall for the loop.
As it is I’m logging in almost every day anyway. It’s a win-win to me.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.4 -
umagon✭✭✭✭✭
It’s not aimed at players like you. The trap is usually the best awards are at or around the two week and/or end of the month time frame. And you have to login to advance to the next award. So, it increases player engagement and also allows them to show players more advertisements for different shop items. Both are aimed at increasing revenue. It’s not about giving you something as a player that is useful, it more about offering some that players perceive as useful but in the long run doesn’t amount to anything. Because in the same time frame that it would take for all those small awards to add up, players could get better things.
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Stickbow✭✭✭If you get 10 gold three out of 7 days, random crafting mats three days and a super rare motif some time in that week, you are much more likely to continue logging in every day on the chance that you get that super rare motif than if you get 500 gold per day. Ever see the lottery commercials that say "Today could be the day"?
It's explained pretty clearly in the concept of variable interval intermittent reinforcement in Skinnerian operant conditioning, though this is a slightly modified version, since you *always* get a reward, but the big reward you want is always a possibility - even if only 0.0002%.
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.
If the rewards will indeed contain collectible items, can they please be delivered via runebox rather than adding them directly to our collection so that we can delete them if we don't want them?0 -
SainguinKrist✭✭✭✭✭I swear to Vivec... Anytime ZoS tries to do literally anything for this community we react with nothing but rage and vitriol.
Grow up already. They're adding a new system to help engage players. It's worked in plenty of other games, including non-F2P titles like BDO.
ZoS could announce tomorrow they're doing everything player's have ever wanted and you people would still act like petulant children because it didn't happen sooner.
This is why I avoid the forums like a bubonic plague.I have characters that have classes.
I'm not sure what their names are.
Leader of Casual Filth, a proudly LGBT+ led and friendly social guild.10 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep sounds about right. Also can y'all help a noob out. I can't get gifs to post using url or bbcode method.Edited by usmguy1234 on April 25, 2018 7:42PMZaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
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✭✭2k a day would be coolFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
jkolb2030✭✭✭SainguinKrist wrote: »I swear to Vivec... Anytime ZoS tries to do literally anything for this community we react with nothing but rage and vitriol.
Grow up already. They're adding a new system to help engage players. It's worked in plenty of other games, including non-F2P titles like BDO.
ZoS could announce tomorrow they're doing everything player's have ever wanted and you people would still act like petulant children because it didn't happen sooner.
This is why I avoid the forums like a bubonic plague.
The only thing that helped BDO (that i hope never happens to ESO) is that they had a lot of time restraint rewards and the items they gave away all had a fixed amount that they could be sold for on the open market.
BDO system works, but i hope those aspects never becomes a part of the ESO model.1 -
Aurie✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
were not entitled to good stuff in this game man you gotta work for it. course everyone would like something like a lightning staff of moondancer in their login bonus but its not gonna happen. we should just be happy their giving us anything for free.
Again, i dont want good stuff.
But i dont want to get peed in the face and get told its raining.
your not getting screwed. their not gonna give you crazy stuff for free man stop acting like your entitled just cause of where your at in the game. its a free thing that their being generous enough to give us they could remove it right now if they wanted to but their not. so show the developers some respect.
Whilst I agree with you about showing the devs respect, the reason for the daily rewards is to encourage players to log in every day. They are not a generous free gift...there is, quite reasonably, an agenda behind it.
OP was pointing out that if that is indicative of the level of said rewards (which @ZOS_GinaBruno has since clarified is not), they are hardly worth the effort for someone who needs persuading.1 -
Tyreal1974✭✭✭✭You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!!
10G is just 10G, but a lockpick can open up a chest. Why anything could be in the chest. You could even get an invigorating sword or training armor and 10G!
While daily rewards in the PTS are just placeholders to tests the system, seeing that there was a 10G reward did make me smile because I knew what the reactions were going to be.Edited by Tyreal1974 on April 25, 2018 9:37PM0 -
Tyreal1974✭✭✭✭SainguinKrist wrote: »I swear to Vivec... Anytime ZoS tries to do literally anything for this community we react with nothing but rage and vitriol.
Grow up already. They're adding a new system to help engage players. It's worked in plenty of other games, including non-F2P titles like BDO.
ZoS could announce tomorrow they're doing everything player's have ever wanted and you people would still act like petulant children because it didn't happen sooner.
This is why I avoid the forums like a bubonic plague.
Hairy Molag Bol, thank you! I totally agree with what you are saying and take an awesome!3 -
Anotherone773✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If you get 10 gold three out of 7 days, random crafting mats three days and a super rare motif some time in that week, you are much more likely to continue logging in every day on the chance that you get that super rare motif than if you get 500 gold per day. Ever see the lottery commercials that say "Today could be the day"?
It's explained pretty clearly in the concept of variable interval intermittent reinforcement in Skinnerian operant conditioning, though this is a slightly modified version, since you *always* get a reward, but the big reward you want is always a possibility - even if only 0.0002%.
It wouldnt be that rare if everyone got one just for logging in. And you know how OCD people get on here. So that would lead to a bunch of threads about " I am forced to login everyday just to get this stupid motif" and " I missed the motif. Its not fair that some of us have lives and cant login everyday." and 5000 other whine threads about it i really dont want to filter through.0 -
Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
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Ok ngl this is hilarious. And I thought some of Warframe's daily rewards were lame (please...no more morphics...)
Speaking of which, limited time 25%/50%/75% crown discount daily login reward when?Edited by Numerikuu on April 25, 2018 9:51PM1 -
idahogeekette✭✭✭I agree the test-awards right now are a little underwhelming, but its testing the process, while they develop the content.
I think we should offer our opinions, but I am uncomfortable with rude insults in giving them.
For real rewards, I love the idea of recipes and crafting item. Maybe a rare drop item..... like ONE nirnhoned stone or mimic stones or a temper or something would be really useful but not break any balances.
Riding lessons can be used by even veteran players, when they make an new character. And helpful too for new players.
Maybe a craft-bag? With a random recipe drop? so you don't get same recipe all the time? or special craft item?
A dye color? a cosmetic hat or such?
household objects?
Special hard to make foods or potions?
Maybe special tokens that can be turned in to a special vendor for log-in based rewards of our choice?Edited by idahogeekette on April 25, 2018 9:55PM0 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭1) This is actually feedback based on what is currently visible. They chose what was visible. They could have made it "more than junk but less than great" but they chose "junk".
2) Why are so many people slamming feedback when they wouldn't have enabled the system if they didn't want feedback on it.
Seriously, too many people are just "they'll do right by us, they always do. ZOS would never do anything we didn't like because they're better to us than our own mothers."
Are most posters here on ZOS payroll or just always gullible or just really love arguing more than actually just agreeing or disagreeing politely and providing their own feedback on the topic?0 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please make consider the rewards are worth seeing notication for it. It would annoy me instead of reward me for login if this kinda of thing went live.2 -
DeathStalker✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.
If the rewards we are seeing on the PTS are not the rewards going live, then what exactly with the daily login bonus are we suppose to give feedback on? What exactly with the daily login bonus are we testing?Edited by DeathStalker on April 25, 2018 11:11PM3 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeathStalker wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.
If the rewards we are seeing on the PTS are not the rewards going live, then what exactly with the daily login bonus are we suppose to give feedback on? What exactly with the daily login bonus are we testing?
Exactly.
I could understand it missing items that haven't been finalized, like the psijic vault crates or other collectibles, but things that are already in the live game with an associated value, like gold, should be easy to proportionally adjust relatively close to the final numbers.
By the way, how many things from PTS have made it to live before just by accident that weren't intended?
Do you think that is more likely to happen if it is an intentionally incorrect number, like this "10 gold", than if they already had a plan as close to what they wanted in place?
They're leaving themselves more work than necessary just trying to correct intentionally misleading things when they will inevitably miss even genuine mistakes.0 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
were not entitled to good stuff in this game man you gotta work for it. course everyone would like something like a lightning staff of moondancer in their login bonus but its not gonna happen. we should just be happy their giving us anything for free.
Again, i dont want good stuff.
But i dont want to get peed in the face and get told its raining.
your not getting screwed. their not gonna give you crazy stuff for free man stop acting like your entitled just cause of where your at in the game. its a free thing that their being generous enough to give us they could remove it right now if they wanted to but their not. so show the developers some respect.
Whilst I agree with you about showing the devs respect, the reason for the daily rewards is to encourage players to log in every day. They are not a generous free gift...there is, quite reasonably, an agenda behind it.
OP was pointing out that if that is indicative of the level of said rewards (which @ZOS_GinaBruno has since clarified is not), they are hardly worth the effort for someone who needs persuading.
agenda behind it..........hmm i dont know about that since people are always yelling about compensation over stupid stuff i mean people have wanted something for nothing for awhile. would a daily login system get me to play anymore than i do no cause i play all the time regardless cause i love the game. but they dont have to give us this login system they could keep adding content which already gives players a reason to play everyday. its rediculous to think were entitled to this login system having amazingly good stuff in it. we should be happy their giving us anything at all.0 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The 10 gold thing was a bit weak sauce. They don't all have to be a crown crate, but 10 gold?
Outside of this, I was kind of unsure what to do here? Do I have to accept this reward? I did so and it took me to a screen with a bunch of other stuff like research scrolls, crates, repair kits, etc - Do I click on something or is this just showing me the possible rewards? I was a little confused. The initial screen just told me 10 gold though, so I assume that is what I ended up with - just not sure of the purpose of the second screen.-- @xaraan --
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Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭Not every prize will be “OMG this is amazing best day eva”. Sometimes free things are mundane, something even 4 year olds can understand and appreciate.
Agreed. However after this thread I am tempted to post every reward with a screenshot and a random gif no matter how small.
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DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daily rewards, good idea in itself.
But can you make it any clearer that you dont understand and care about your own game then putting 10/50/100 gold as a daily reward? Not even a 4 year old that played this game for 10min would put 10 gold as a reward and think "Yep, this will make a diffrence, people will love this!" Even this little kid would know that 10 gold are absolutley nothing in Eso, and that absolutley noone needs those 10 gold, not even the newest player that literally just made his character.
This i not funny anymore. This is sad. If you devs are at this point of not understanding, please go study your game and its players.
It would be better to big one large gold award at the end of 10-30 logins instead of some tiny miniscule amount each day.0 -
zassasaurus✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Will the pts be updated some point before live to have a proper representation of the kind of things that we can expect to see for these on live? It would be good to have the opportunity to give feedback on what you will be offering before this system gets added to the live server.0 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maybe there should be an option to 'opt out' of the daily rewards ... that way people that don't like the daily rewards, or find the rewards 'unrewarding,' don't have to deal with them.
Personally, I like them!Edited by Maryal on April 26, 2018 2:36AM1 -
NUKE65536✭✭mcdonalds germany had a similar system before easter. a bigmac for 1 euro was the best i guess, but free socks or a free small fries are also nice.
perhaps the difference between 10 gold and a free crown crate is a bit large. this on the other hand depends on your rng luck. i always got great stuff out of the free boxes, but prhps one would prefer 10 gold? xD0 -
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✭✭✭✭I'm so sad that the 4 crown crates are the daily reward for the 32nd April. I don't think I can bear to wait that long
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