10 gold daily reward...

Avrael
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Daily rewards, good idea in itself.

But can you make it any clearer that you dont understand and care about your own game then putting 10/50/100 gold as a daily reward? Not even a 4 year old that played this game for 10min would put 10 gold as a reward and think "Yep, this will make a diffrence, people will love this!" Even this little kid would know that 10 gold are absolutley nothing in Eso, and that absolutley noone needs those 10 gold, not even the newest player that literally just made his character.
This i not funny anymore. This is sad. If you devs are at this point of not understanding, please go study your game and its players.
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  • Beardimus
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    So every log in, every player should get something awesome?

    I doubt the Devs put this in thinking it was an A Star prize, rather its one of the booby prizes. Still better than getting nothing which would be the alternative.

    BTW insulting people doing their job is a weird old approach.

    Companies gives out something for nothing yet boom in comes the hate. Wow.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.
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  • Reverb
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    Not every prize will be “OMG this is amazing best day eva”. Sometimes free things are mundane, something even 4 year olds can understand and appreciate.
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  • DuskMarine
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    Avrael wrote: »
    Daily rewards, good idea in itself.

    But can you make it any clearer that you dont understand and care about your own game then putting 10/50/100 gold as a daily reward? Not even a 4 year old that played this game for 10min would put 10 gold as a reward and think "Yep, this will make a diffrence, people will love this!" Even this little kid would know that 10 gold are absolutley nothing in Eso, and that absolutley noone needs those 10 gold, not even the newest player that literally just made his character.
    This i not funny anymore. This is sad. If you devs are at this point of not understanding, please go study your game and its players.

    so free stuff gives a right to scream and holler?.......hmmm that makes sense
  • Jayne_Doe
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    While I wouldn't complain about getting free stuff, I do kinda understand the point of the poster that 10 gold really is pretty menial.

    But, free is free, right? Yes, and they don't have to give us even 10 free gold. But, I do question the purpose of the system if 10 gold actually ends up being one of the log-in rewards. If I understand correctly, the system is designed to encourage people to log in every day. So, the rewards should at least be something worth logging in for - 10 gold is not.

    On the other hand, if they want to balance things out and have really awesome rewards and then kinda meh rewards in order to keep "the excitement" of logging in to see if what you're getting is actually awesome, well...that reinforcement only works to a point. If people are disappointed enough times with rewards of the caliber of 10 gold, then they may just forget it altogether.

    Point is...no, they don't have to give us free things at all, but the fact that they are introducing a "reward" system to get people to log in regularly in theory would mean that rewards should be somewhat worth it. Ten gold is not, but then again, I wouldn't be logging in everyday for the reward alone, but I'm a regular player. I think it's valid to give feedback on the new log-in system and to say whether they think that 10 gold is a worthwhile reward to encourage log-in, but I do agree that the delivery could have been much more respectful.
  • redspecter23
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    This was mentioned in the patch notes, but the rewards you see from the Daily Rewards system aren't final. We simply enabled the system for testing on the PTS, but what you see listed isn't representative of the final offerings.

    Yeah, it will be 5g when it goes live ;)
  • kojou
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    Think of it as the cereal box where you open and get the message "Not a winner. Please try again."

    I agree that 10 gold is almost nothing, but I'm sure there will be good prizes too.
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  • Feanor
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    10 gold a day is 3,650 gold a year. That’s almost one free motif page (of the less valuable ones ofc). ;)
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  • DuskMarine
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    kojou wrote: »
    Think of it as the cereal box where you open and get the message "Not a winner. Please try again."

    I agree that 10 gold is almost nothing, but I'm sure there will be good prizes too.

    theres sure to be better ones down the road but free is free eh lol
  • Avrael
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    No ofc you shouldnt get every day something amazing, but 10 gold and absolutley nothing makes literally no diffrence at all. Gold itself is not that good of a reward, doesnt matter how much. Materials, Recepies etc., anything really, would be much nicer, but gold, Instant-Research Scrolls and Riding-Lessons are not worth anything for a fully leveled player. I dont see forward to having to delete all those scrolls before they clutter my inventory. Only the crown crates after some time are an item thats maybe even too good. For every other reward atm i would rather get nothing tbh.

    And for the "insulting people blah", this is one of thousands of instances where the devs show just how little they care and/or understand about their game. You really dont get the feeling they ever played the game even for an hour every time you read some patch or change like this.
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  • Delpi
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    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

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  • Avrael
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    Delpi wrote: »
    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

    Would literally be better, yes.
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  • Recremen
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    It's cool they probably just imported the system from TES Legends, expect 60 Soul Gems tomorrow and on Friday a shiny new Core Pack. ;-)
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  • DuskMarine
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    Avrael wrote: »
    Delpi wrote: »
    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

    Would literally be better, yes.

    were not entitled to good stuff in this game man you gotta work for it. course everyone would like something like a lightning staff of moondancer in their login bonus but its not gonna happen. we should just be happy their giving us anything for free.
  • Avrael
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Avrael wrote: »
    Delpi wrote: »
    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

    Would literally be better, yes.

    were not entitled to good stuff in this game man you gotta work for it. course everyone would like something like a lightning staff of moondancer in their login bonus but its not gonna happen. we should just be happy their giving us anything for free.

    Again, i dont want good stuff.

    But i dont want to get peed in the face and get told its raining.
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  • goldenarcher1
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    Delpi wrote: »
    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

    Which reminds me i need to buy some,so thanks for that.

    Its not nice running out of Lockpicks trying to open a master chest. :'(
  • Iselin
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    I'm sure whichever dev put 10g in there as a place holder is having a good laugh right now.

    Good troll, sir. Nicely done.
  • Transairion
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    It seems the basic idea behind ESO's Daily Reward is to follow the Elder Scrolls Legends system:

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    For context there's one reward for every day of the (current) month, but since it's cumulative to get the last reward you have to claim every other previous reward first. That is, log on 30 days in a row to get the 31st reward (which is usually the best).

    But ESL and ESO are very different games: every daily reward in ESL is useful in some manner (free cards of X rarity, gold is for buying random card packs, gems for crafting specific cards) while in ESO... I struggle to think of daily rewards that could be useful to everyone you know?

    Gold is always useful, sure, but getting 5 gold (for example) when you can kill 5 bandits and get 30 gold isn't worth anything. Nor do you really want to print free money and give out 500,000 gold at the end of the month either.

    I doubt Crowns, or Crown Gems are going to be on the daily table as nice as that'd be.

    Most/all consumables offered in the Crown Store are inferior to crafted versions as well (sorry to say I've never touched the level-up reward consumables, despite being freebies), though Bound to Account XP scrolls are nice.


    I understand what you're trying to go with Daily Log In rewards to keep people coming back each day... but I really can't fathom how you convert the ESL version over to ESO and have it feel... worth doing. Free is free, but I'll resent Daily Rewards if it only fills my inventory with clutter I'll never use and can't give away because Bind on Pickup.

    I'll be happy to give away mountains of Crown Consumbles if it means I don't have to DESTROY every stack!
  • bankira
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    Does eso+ will benefit this system? @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • Anotherone773
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    So your looking for something like a "Divine Power Scroll":
    *2 hr scroll
    *HP, stamina, magicka increased by 100%
    *HP,stamina, magicka regen increased to 9999/sec
    *Crit chance increased to 100%
    *Crit damage increased by 100%
    *Weapon enchantment cooldown reduced by 100%
    *Weapon and spell penetration increased by 10,000
    *Weapon and spell resistance increased by 10,000
    *Weapons and ability range increased by 100%
    *Ultimate generation of 50/sec while in combat.
    *Stealth detection range by NPCs of -1m( yes thats negative 1)
    *DoTs/Hots time increased by 100%
    *AOE damage/heal radius increased by 100%
    *50% increase to base run speed.

    Something like that worth logging in for? Personally, If they need to entice me to log in to a game with trinket rewards, its time for me to move on to a different game, thus its kind of a pointless system in my case.
  • DuskMarine
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    Avrael wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Avrael wrote: »
    Delpi wrote: »
    You know what is better than 10g???? A Lockpick!!!! :D:D:D

    Would literally be better, yes.

    were not entitled to good stuff in this game man you gotta work for it. course everyone would like something like a lightning staff of moondancer in their login bonus but its not gonna happen. we should just be happy their giving us anything for free.

    Again, i dont want good stuff.

    But i dont want to get peed in the face and get told its raining.

    your not getting screwed. their not gonna give you crazy stuff for free man stop acting like your entitled just cause of where your at in the game. its a free thing that their being generous enough to give us they could remove it right now if they wanted to but their not. so show the developers some respect.
  • Transairion
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    Something like that worth logging in for? Personally, If they need to entice me to log in to a game with trinket rewards, its time for me to move on to a different game, thus its kind of a pointless system in my case.

    Personally it's kind of alarming an MMO is attempting to use the same kind of log in reward system as a F2P Mobile game at all but... it is what it is.

    So long as we're not being actively PUNISHED (inventory filler) by getting bad Crown Consumables for logging in, I have no issue with it. Ingame dailies getting an extra reward makes more sense to me than just... free stuff for logging in at all.

    Like, why can't the first Daily we do in game (per day) give an extra reward or something? Encourages us to... do something. Or is this system more for ESO+ less and/or new players, and more experienced players won't really bat an eye at it?

    Who's this system even for, again?
  • DaveMoeDee
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    Why continue this conversation when we don't know what the actual rewards will be when live? The current rewards can be considered placeholders because data of some sort is needed.
  • Anotherone773
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    Something like that worth logging in for? Personally, If they need to entice me to log in to a game with trinket rewards, its time for me to move on to a different game, thus its kind of a pointless system in my case.

    Personally it's kind of alarming an MMO is attempting to use the same kind of log in reward system as a F2P Mobile game at all but... it is what it is.

    So long as we're not being actively PUNISHED (inventory filler) by getting bad Crown Consumables for logging in, I have no issue with it. Ingame dailies getting an extra reward makes more sense to me than just... free stuff for logging in at all.

    Like, why can't the first Daily we do in game (per day) give an extra reward or something? Encourages us to... do something. Or is this system more for ESO+ less and/or new players, and more experienced players won't really bat an eye at it?

    Who's this system even for, again?

    Id rather them focus on giving me reasons to play rather than reasons to login.
  • jkolb2030
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    As a player who really only plays for end game raids or group PvP, i can definitely say that this system would be a warm welcomed one.

    I would be completely fine with getting daily rewards in the likes of:
    - Reagents
    - Crafting Mats
    - Gold
    - Soul Gems
    - Research scrolls (jewelry crafting is coming, want as much of a boost as possible)
    - Crown Crate
    - Furniture Diagrams
    - Motifs

    There are plenty of things they can put in these rewards that will benefit everyone who gets on and doesn't spend many hours farming etc..

    Of course, i do agree with the OP that anything they do give away should be 'scaled' and proportioned in a way that makes it meaningful. The 5g and 10g rewards should probably be around 5k and 10k.

    I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
  • Marcus684
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Why continue this conversation when we don't know what the actual rewards will be when live? The current rewards can be considered placeholders because data of some sort is needed.

    Impatient whiners need something to impatiently whine about.
  • umagon
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    The daily awards are a trap. Don’t fall for the loop.
  • Avrael
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    Something like that worth logging in for? Personally, If they need to entice me to log in to a game with trinket rewards, its time for me to move on to a different game, thus its kind of a pointless system in my case.

    Personally it's kind of alarming an MMO is attempting to use the same kind of log in reward system as a F2P Mobile game at all but... it is what it is.

    So long as we're not being actively PUNISHED (inventory filler) by getting bad Crown Consumables for logging in, I have no issue with it. Ingame dailies getting an extra reward makes more sense to me than just... free stuff for logging in at all.

    Like, why can't the first Daily we do in game (per day) give an extra reward or something? Encourages us to... do something. Or is this system more for ESO+ less and/or new players, and more experienced players won't really bat an eye at it?

    Who's this system even for, again?

    Id rather them focus on giving me reasons to play rather than reasons to login.

    Thats my opinion too. Instead of daily rewards they could work more on fixing a few of the hundreds of bugs. That would instantly bring more people to login then whatever login reward they could realisticly give us. Or give us a 3rd key for Vet+HM Pledges. That would make more sense to most people, to have up to 3 more chances per day to get stuff they need. And it would give people a reason to do vet pledges at all, if you get 1 key for normal and 1 key for vet, and you dont need the monster helmet of that dungeon, why would you do vet as a normal player that has maybe not the best gear and for whom it may be really difficult?
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  • Imryll
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    We can see what the reward is before claiming it so I don't see an issue. If you don't want a particular reward, just don't click on Claim. If our bags become littered with unwanted items, it will be because we chose to claim them. 10g isn't very motivating, but I'd certainly accept it. I remain curious what other rewards will turn up! :smile:
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