ZOS not engaging in any class feedback threads per PTS launch

starkerealm · April 2018

MaxwellC wrote: »

@starkerealm I never mentioned anything about the sDK in PvE content but actually I've stated that "Stamina DK in PvE is preforms well while Stamina DK in PvP still sucks".

Yeah, that I can understand. The difficulty in assessing PvP balance is, we all have subjective experiences. Those are accurate, but they don't necessarily represent overall statistical trends. If ZOS has been hesitant to mess with the StamKnight for PvP, I suspect that's because the class is matching up pretty well against other classes in overall combat data.

That said, the Warden raids I've been hearing about lately are probably going to get the stam warden kicked in the teeth pretty soon.

Ragnarock41 · April 2018

Slick_007 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I think I have waited enough. I also believe wrobel and his team are biased. I honestly believe that, for real. As crazy as it sounds, I do not have any other explaination as to why my class gets completely ignored and doesn't get a single tweak over an entire year, I have no other way of explaining it, if you do, please share it with me.

my other theory is that they just don't know ANYTHING, about their own game.
Which one is worse? I honestly don't know.

did you ever think that maybe they dont respond to you because you make it clear you hate them? also they dont have to post to read your feedback and make changes that they think are necessary. and thats the thing. its changes THEY think are necessary because THEY have all the data. You can make suggestions, but if you think they must make changes because you said so, you need to go make your own game.

Except, I do not hate them. Do you know what I hate though? I hate this ghetto street thats called ESO forums. I came here only and only because I believe what was done to stamknight was wrong. I believe after months of telling the obvious most of the people here finally realized my point.

We told ZOS everything overperforming about stamden from day one, their method of collecting data was so slow that it took 11-12 months for them to nerf shimmering shields cost, and it still is better than wings. I don't think my suggestions are must done, but I do believe that what I suggest is mostly reasonable.

But can you even emphatyze with me for at least 10 seconds? I am playing the weakest, most boring class in the game of ''diversity''. A balance patch is on the corner, I get hyped up,we all get our hopes up, only to see I'm still playing the weakest, most boring thing.

What do you expect me to do? Be honest. When the developers show clearly they do not understand nor care, you expect me to still hopeful about it?

starkerealm · April 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

But can you even emphatyze with me for at least 10 seconds? I am playing the weakest, most boring class in the game of ''diversity''.

Okay, I can be sympathetic about playing a weak class. I've been maining a NB for four years. It's decent now, but I've had a few rough patches.

That said, if you're bored with your class, try something else. Hell even respec. PvP doesn't work off the same PvE triad, which I shouldn't need to tell you. HA DKs can still be a lot of fun in Cyrodiil. If you're bored, mix things up.

Ragnarock41 · April 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

But can you even emphatyze with me for at least 10 seconds? I am playing the weakest, most boring class in the game of ''diversity''.

Okay, I can be sympathetic about playing a weak class. I've been maining a NB for four years. It's decent now, but I've had a few rough patches.

That said, if you're bored with your class, try something else. Hell even respec. PvP doesn't work off the same PvE triad, which I shouldn't need to tell you. HA DKs can still be a lot of fun in Cyrodiil. If you're bored, mix things up.

HA DKs are a PvE thing mostly. They do not work in PvP.(at least not really for stamina.)

You know, I would respec but I already have a magDk ready because I knew this would be the fate of it. So I'm actually playing a magDk, and will probably be playing a magDk in summerset aswell.

You're still failing to understand me though.. I'm not bored with my class. I loved playing stamKnight back in one tamriel. I still do.
I don't love what the devs have done to it.

Turelus · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Generally they don't post in them, if they do it's just clarification from Gina or Jess.

You have to wait until future updates to see what's been heard. Wrobel and his team are no doubt reading them though.

I think I read this the wrong way. Did you claim that Wrobel, as in lead combat designer of ESO, actually reads feedback posts on the forums? After all these years? LUL

I did, and it seems to be true from those who have interacted with him. He just doesn't post in every one and doesn't pander to every need or game idea people say he should (thankfully).

Dreyloch · April 2018

People say the Devs don't want to post because we're all toxic etc. Well imo, that wouldn't happen if they realized they need to change the way things work. PvE and PvP needs to work on separate rulesets. Every ability, every skill, every armor set. This is too much for the Dev team to implement. So they ignore us, or try to work on the most simple changes to try and get to a middle ground. It's no use crying about it, it's no use submitting feedback on it. It is what it is.

From my exp. with this game, nothing will change until after the patch goes live. Then months later down the road "some" feedback will create a change as the crys get louder and louder. It's a sad fact that anything in this game takes too long to implement. You either live with it, adapt, or just quit playing. Another sad fact, there is nothing new close to release to topple ESO and make us all leave for good. When that happens, if your still around, change will occur much faster and more inline with all our feedback. For any Devs that read this, Ya don't know what ya got till it's gone. /shrug

Saturn · April 2018

I hope this won't be a repeat of last year's chapter PTS, where a lot of high-engagement topics were just completely ignored. It does really feel like issues are being ignored, if you don't know whether or not ZOS has read it, or plans to do anything about it.

On a sidenote, you are having problems with your stam dk? Mine is actually performing better than on Live.

Seraphayel · April 2018

Well, ZOS tackled zero of the recent Warden issues. They totally neglected every feedback from the last 12 months. So what should I think as a Warden player about ZOS class balance?