Ehhghh Skip..

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · March 2018

Seriously.. Vanus Galerion is nothing but rude and acts like our characters are 3 year olds.. After everything we achieve the developers constantly add npc dialogue that is just insulting to the universe they designed.. He would not speak like that to our characters and if he did I would and many others would agree.. cut him into a million pieces and mail him to all the other insulting npcs as a warning...

I feel like skipping the dialogue... which means a lot because I really love the lore in TES.

SGT_Wolfe101st · March 2018

I was thinking this very thing when running the teaser/intro quest last night. Who in the "blank" does this cat think he is talking to? Look at my resume there slick, the entire continent of Tamriel has knelled to my Night Blade, I suggest you do the same. I get the mages and the high elves in particular are condescending most of the time but we just saved the important person again, you're welcome. The dialog insinuates that we have never came through when needed or called upon, which simply isn't the case. Kind of knocked the wind out of that story for me.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · March 2018

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

I was thinking this very thing when running the teaser/intro quest last night. Who in the "blank" does this cat think he is talking to? Look at my resume there slick, the entire continent of Tamriel has knelled to my Night Blade, I suggest you do the same. I get the mages and the high elves in particular are condescending most of the time but we just saved the important person again, you're welcome. The dialog insinuates that we have never came through when needed or called upon, which simply isn't the case. Kind of knocked the wind out of that story for me.

100% agree. It does not make sense in the universe they created for him to speak like that or at least to get away with it.

Feanor · March 2018

Now that really intrigues me. Haven’t played the teaser quest yet but it can’t be worse than the Great Shackle quest dialogues.

Enslaved · March 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Now that really intrigues me. Haven’t played the teaser quest yet but it can’t be worse than the Great Shackle quest dialogues.

You mean "NowWitnessMyAwesomeAndMightyHurrDurrDerpSpellUnworthyScrubs" dialogue?

Fvh09NL · March 2018

I think Vanus would actually, he is one of the most powerful mages in Tamriel and of course a High Elf, making him look down upon others seem logical. I actually prefer how he is now when opposed to how he was before.. a bit of a silly dude if you ask me.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · March 2018

Enslaved wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Now that really intrigues me. Haven’t played the teaser quest yet but it can’t be worse than the Great Shackle quest dialogues.

You mean "NowWitnessMyAwesomeAndMightyHurrDurrDerpSpellUnworthyScrubs" dialogue?

Yea its really growing old. Which is a shame because I normally love the lore and dialogue.

AzraelKrieg · March 2018

You expect different from an altmer?

Feanor · March 2018

Enslaved wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Now that really intrigues me. Haven’t played the teaser quest yet but it can’t be worse than the Great Shackle quest dialogues.

You mean "NowWitnessMyAwesomeAndMightyHurrDurrDerpSpellUnworthyScrubs" dialogue?

Yes, it was a bit odd, especially after you rescued him from bumbling in the Black Forge before...

Tan9oSuccka · March 2018

That’s funny. I was thinking the same.

They sometimes do a good job at changing up dialog based on prior interactions. Like Mel Adarys or Gabrielle Benele in the Gold Coast.

Aebaradath · March 2018

I have seen worse from Mer. Their behavior in ESO is quite mild.

Thevampirenight · March 2018

Its a sad fate what happens to him later on in the lore. Mannimarco enslaves his body and he still remains undead even when he resurfaces during the third era. Vanus Galerion still remains trapped in a state of horrid undeath as a worm thrall. Most likely suffering having his soul bound to his corpse. Poor man even though rude does not deserve that.

Kodrac · March 2018

IS it still the same annoying voice actor?

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · March 2018

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Its a sad fate what happens to him later on in the lore. Mannimarco enslaves his body and he still remains undead even when he resurfaces during the third era. Vanus Galerion still remains trapped in a state of horrid undeath as a worm thrall. Most likely suffering having his soul bound to his corpse. Poor man even though rude does not deserve that.

Eh good. Im less mad.

Teridaxus · March 2018

Just altmer things.

And people immedialty scream skyrim fanboy if you dislike altmer...

Thevampirenight · March 2018

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Its a sad fate what happens to him later on in the lore. Mannimarco enslaves his body and he still remains undead even when he resurfaces during the third era. Vanus Galerion still remains trapped in a state of horrid undeath as a worm thrall. Most likely suffering having his soul bound to his corpse. Poor man even though rude does not deserve that.

Eh good. Im less mad.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vanus_Galerion

In his never-ending lust for power, the undead Mannimarco began a tradition of killing, soul trapping and collecting the bodies of powerful wizards, most often arch-mages of the Guild, which he would then resurrect as Worm Thralls and study. Galerion was one such Thrall, whom Mannimarco developed a particular fondness for. He was still in a state of undeath in 3E 433 when Mannimarco once again returned to the affairs of mortals.

yodased · March 2018

You guys are gonna have some serious hard times when you are amongst them in their own lands.
Xenophobic to the core, self righteous and bigoted altmer are just a joy at parties.

ParaNostram · March 2018

Vanus Gallerion is a scrub, give me Mannimarco, the Camoran Usurper, or the Underking anyday over his spellcraft

josiahva · March 2018

ehh, I almost always skip the dialogue...because lets be honest here...this is a video game, and the writing in video games is horrible, you are lucky if some type of plot exists, but even if it does, you can be sure it makes no sense. Vivec holds the moonlet above Vivec City why exactly? Why not set it down gently elsewhere? To imply some type of threat over those he rules? That doesn't seem like a very efficient use of his power...keep himself constantly weakened to threaten people not worth threatening? The writing in this and every other video game(with a few exceptions) is bad....you are better off skipping it and reading a well written book instead.

Feanor · March 2018

josiahva wrote: »

ehh, I almost always skip the dialogue...because lets be honest here...this is a video game, and the writing in video games is horrible, you are lucky if some type of plot exists, but even if it does, you can be sure it makes no sense. Vivec holds the moonlet above Vivec City why exactly? Why not set it down gently elsewhere? To imply some type of threat over those he rules? That doesn't seem like a very efficient use of his power...keep himself constantly weakened to threaten people not worth threatening? The writing in this and every other video game(with a few exceptions) is bad....you are better off skipping it and reading a well written book instead.

I don’t agree. Except for some unfortunate instances the story writing is a strong point of ESO. If you take your example of Baar’Dau, the moon let served the purpose to illustrate the power and divinity of Vivec. He keeps it in place a) because he can and b) as a threat to his people should they ever stop worshipping him.

For my part I almost always love the story telling as it’s really well done most times.

Rungar · March 2018

Are all men from the future such loud mouth braggarts?

jlmurra2 · March 2018

Fvh09NL wrote: »

I think Vanus would actually, he is one of the most powerful mages in Tamriel and of course a High Elf, making him look down upon others seem logical. I actually prefer how he is now when opposed to how he was before.. a bit of a silly dude if you ask me.

I thought we was behaving differently than before. It has been so long since I played the quests he is in I was uncertain.

I predict when my characters are in Summerset there will be plenty of Altmer telling them they should not be there, and treating them worse than Vanus.

psychotrip · March 2018

This is an ongoing problem with Bethesda/Zenimax. They have a habit of making characters rude and condescending even when it doesn't make sense, and especially when it conflicts with our accomplishments or the way we built our character.

This, in my opinion, reached a fever pitch in Fallout 4, where not a single character treats you like the invincible one-man-army you are. It's especially annoying in the Brotherhood and Institute, where everyone treats you like a gibbering moron even when an intellect of 10.

"He's not even a scientist!"

*Science perk maxed out*

Minyassa · March 2018

One of the times I've laughed the hardest in this game is when my friend and I were running the main storyline and Vanus was being his usual arrogant mouthy self for a while and then he pulled this "OMG DON'T TOUCH THAT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ---oh wait you're fine" thing, and I heard "whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiffwhiffwhiff" and turned around to see my friend madly swinging swords through that elf in an insane fury. It just expressed our feelings perfectly. Still cracks me up.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · March 2018

jlmurra2 wrote: »

I thought we was behaving differently than before. It has been so long since I played the quests he is in I was uncertain.

I recall him being stuck up, but not as rude as he was in the Summerset prequel quest. I'm hand-waving it with the explanation that Guildmaster Vanus is jealous because my character is making bigger waves than he is and he's not used to being shown up.

Dont_do_drugs · March 2018

for this, the dialogues should check "if made quests xy" or "if achieved this and that" and then split the way they are talking to u in three categories: "freshman", "neutral" and "hero". this would contain to just write some dialogues in 3 times each, same content, different intonation. still its too much effort to redo it for all aspects of the game, but maybe at least for some main quests. it would really serve immersion. even tes morrowind was able to check your reputation and change the way, npc reacting on you.

now nearly 20 years later, another elder scrolls isnt able to do so...well...well... yes...

with one tamriel another problem occured as well: quest giver talking to you about stuff u did, which u didnt even do yet.

Vuldovahkriid · April 2018

jlmurra2 wrote: »

Fvh09NL wrote: »

I think Vanus would actually, he is one of the most powerful mages in Tamriel and of course a High Elf, making him look down upon others seem logical. I actually prefer how he is now when opposed to how he was before.. a bit of a silly dude if you ask me.

I thought we was behaving differently than before. It has been so long since I played the quests he is in I was uncertain.

I predict when my characters are in Summerset there will be plenty of Altmer telling them they should not be there, and treating them worse than Vanus.

I'd say Divayth Fyr is the/one of the most powerful mages in Tamriel. He's been around since the 1st Era(Vanus 2nd), and survived well into the 4th Era( over 4000 years old).

Valamist · April 2018

Its funny, when I first did the Coldharbour quests on my first main I did not really take much notice of his arrogance... then when I did it again on my new main I was like 'Can... can I kill him? No one will know, I will just blame it on some Daedra..."

notimetocare · April 2018

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

Seriously.. Vanus Galerion is nothing but rude and acts like our characters are 3 year olds.. After everything we achieve the developers constantly add npc dialogue that is just insulting to the universe they designed.. He would not speak like that to our characters and if he did I would and many others would agree.. cut him into a million pieces and mail him to all the other insulting npcs as a warning...

I feel like skipping the dialogue... which means a lot because I really love the lore in TES.

Its a power thing. Keep in mind that lorewise, Vanus is one of the most powerful people on Nirn. A member of the guild is simply a peasant. The Dragonborn is really the only hero that truly had more power than other main lore characters.

I mean, keep in mind trying to cut him into a million pieces would be met with some of the most powerful magic in Tamriel

netch_a_sketch · April 2018

If you were Vanus Galerion would you care? He's old and powerful and has probably met a ton of heroes just like you. On top of that he's a self interested Altmer.