Dredlord wrote: »

And for.your reference,

I play pc and console (ps4 pro), experience server lag often on both.

My pc is I7, 16 gig ram, 1 tb SSD, 1080

It is not net lag, tested and eliminated as possibility.

Since both your console and PC experience lag it could be your router, NIC, modem, ISP, or dozens of other possibilities. Do you play on WiFi?

Dredlord wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

Dredlord wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

None of this, only ZOS servers or ZOS servers are or are terrible. This is called greed. ZOS sells too many accounts and does not plan how it will supply that on its servers. You can have a NASA computer, no matter ... the servers are overloaded or outdate.

For what you say to be true the users reporting zero to limited lag in this thread would all have to be lying.

Just like the person driving to work at 1130 never sees rush hour and turns the rest of us into liars too ?

Not really, the point I am making is that it is sometimes your ISP, hardware, among other things. You have to rule those out first. It's pointless and unproductive to simply sit here saying ZeniMax is at fault. That achieves nothing. I am trying to help you.

we are way past that stage kid...

Your post would have been great 3.5 years ago when guess what was ruled out and what wasn't?

Could you please provide me with the following information.

• Do you play wired or wirelessly
• What router do you have?
• What is your ISP?

If anyone would like detailed help fixing their connection or with computer parts I am happy to help.

Zero issues in other games and mmos even those that are more advanced and way newer.

Low FPS, high latency, crashes and lags in ESO.

No no, ESO, it's not me, it's you.

Enslaved wrote: »

Have i7, have SSD, have 32GB RAM, have 150/6 connection with ping 4-6, and still have lag.

Ya we all get it sometimes . There's a good thread here with some actual helpful suggestions .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/368986/pc-mega-thread-eso-performance-tweaks-fps-improvements-stutter-free-graphics-tweaking

Also @Im_MegaDeath made a good thread that helped me even get my old ROG running better again . My new ROG is a spaceship compared to the old but some of these tweaks even helped more . Sometimes the server is just taking a dump though lol

For someone that doesn't personally understand 90% of what's been written in this post, I've read an awful lot of it, I need to take a long look at my life!

Sorry to burst your bubble but I have been around long enough to tell whether it is my Computer, my ISP, or the Games servers.

There have definitely been some instances when my ISP has caused issues but again that is different than the lag induced by the game servers.

And to date, my computer has not had any problems with bottlenecking anything other than one game I had running through Bluestacks.

Now 4K graphics???

THAT will be a different beast altogether. LOL

i can say with full confidence- the games server performance has deteriorated. i began the game on a macbook pro 3 years ago- averaged 250 pings. a year later it got so bad - 400ms, i had to relevel an account on the NA- where it was at 250.
i since upgraded to a PC with all the latest and greatest- spending well over 3k. in the past year though- the lag has again gone from a steady 280- to seldom lower than 320, with frequient spikes to 999+. dont know what the issue is- but i can say on my end- i ve continually improved my hardware, ram, internet, etc- yet hte game has continually degraded performance.

freespirit wrote: »

I have a high end i7 processor

A 1080ti Graphics Card

32gb of DDR5 Ram

The PC was custom built for me......... damned if I know what motherboard I have........ but it was matched to the other stuff(yes I am technically gifted )

My Guildmates are often jealous cos I don't have to turn addons off whilst in Trials or Cyrodiil.......

I live in London my internet is superb BUT I am still not totally immune to FPS drops, DC's and weird lag.......

It's sometimes the game!!

I don't wanna be that guy, but i think u have 32 GB DDR4 Ram and not ddr5^^
Btw Gz for ur rig is superb!

This post is so triggering. Like if I read message from my raid lead. My pc is more than good enough, I get stable 60 fps at house doing nothing, but close to 10 on trials. Not my pc. Its the game badly optimized. Chat responding in 5 min interval on pc eu is not my pc, its the server. Abilities not launching is not my pc, its the game not responding correctly. I am not alone in this. Many people with way better pc than me experience lag issues. Its not normal that casting ability takes away 30fps and that when you go to cwc world boss fight ping goes to 300 and fps close to 0. FOR EVERYONE PRESENT IN THAT FIGHT. Thats not my pc, thats server not being able to handle the overload. Stop blaming the users who tried everything from guides already how to not lag.
Ps: not everyone can obviously afford gtx 1080 ti and similary expensive stuff, what a bad example "i have the best of the best, if you dont you will lag, your fault"

Rair.Kitani wrote: »

I recently updated my rig, before I returned to ESO a mounth ago. I have a i7-8700K OCed to 4.6Ghz base clock and a GTX1080 now. I still need Votans Adaptive Settings, but with that addon I never dropped below 50 FPS, even in main cities. Outside I tend to have 100 FPS most times, aside drops here and there to the 70-80 area.
My guess in regards of FPS drops is, that you simply can't buy enough single core performance as the game demands, which is a game design flaw in my opinion. Sure, they will provide multicore support with U18, but it had taken them 4 years?!
In regards of network lags, dropped connections or things like that, I haven't faced any issues tbh. I have a 100Mbit connection provided by vodafone via (tv-)cable and live not too far from Frankfurt (<200 km). I use a FritzBox 7490, but due to structural restictrions I have to use a wireless connected access point, where I plug my network cable in. Still have no random connection drops like I always had with those wifi sticks you directly plug in your PC.
I want to comment on posts like "cyrodil lag was much better in the past": When I left ESO two years ago, it was common practice to lag out the server with pulse-trains which resulted in still screens for 2-3 min and dropping dead afterwards. It actually drove me away from ESO, after staying from the beta, through buisness model changes, the long content drought between Craglorn and Wrothgar and lots and lots of balance patches. For me it's definitly better than it was.

Thank you for chiming in with your experiences while using your new hardware. I am happy to see you have good performance with your awesome system.

Knowledge wrote: »

Now, I would like to point out to everyone, once again, that I do not think hardware is the only factor in your poor performance and may not be the factor at all. However, a lot of people have had good success with better hardware.

My suggestions are intended to point people in the right direction if they do not have sufficient hardware. They may not have the needed hardware to run the game and have been mislead.

I will also say I do believe people that have adequate knowledge about performance issues are exploiting the individuals that actually have insufficient hardware into following them on a crusade of blaming ZeniMax for server issues when they are not at fault.

This game is optimized a lot better than many games. It does run smoothly for many people.

Also, the notion that what I suggested will cost "thousands of dollars" is not true.

There are good builds that only cost a user $600 or less depending on sales.

Lastly, if someone wants to dispute what I have said I will not accept arguments of authority (argumentum ad verecundiam) or any defeasible reasoning. I will accept counter arguments supported by reputable sources. All of my arguments have been supported by reputable sources and links to those sources. These range from Civil Engineering website, IBM, Linus, and Cisco. I accept only the same if someone wishes to argue against my points.

Buddy.

You posted an article that talked about the graphics delay between when your processor finishes an image and when that image shows up on your monitor. You then tried to use that article’s points on monitor’s input lag as if it was related to server lag. I’m not sure if you’re intentionally being this misleading or if you’re just so focused on being “right” that you don’t even bother to read your sources that you reference. Regardless, anyone who’s interested can see that you are incorrect about CPUs as well. All they need to do is go into device manager and open up network adapters. Select the NIC and right click and hit properties to bring up the network adapter properties. Hit the configure button and go to the advanced tab.

@Knowledge has been saying in this thread that the CPU is responsible for processing network packets and that a better CPU is needed to process information sent from the server faster. While it’s possible (but rare) for that to be the case, the truth is that we don’t want the CPU processing network data. ESO is an extremely CPU-intensive game, and the less strain we put on the CPU, the better. In other words, not only was his advice wrong but it’s actually the exact opposite of what you want to do.

In that advanced tab, try to find every “offload” option that you can and make sure they’re enabled. This means the NIC’s CPU will be handling the processing. And yes, “enabled” is the default state for most computers, which is why I was so triggered by OP’s claims. (While you’re in that tab, disable energy efficiency, disable flow control, disable large packet, disable interupt modulation). Note: if you have a crappy NIC and a great CPU, you might want to disable the offloads to alleviate latency issues. TBH with an MMO the offloads won’t do much because the data transfer rates are so low, but it doesn’t hurt to try. You have to restart the computer for the settings to go into effect.

Regardless, I don’t think there is any value in debating with OP. He does not understand the articles he is quoting and therefore does not understand that they are not relevant.

I play in a 970M (the lower power laptop kind) and get better FPS with higher graphics than my buddy who plays on a 1070. I’m able to do That because I have spent a LOT of time optimizing my system. But aside from a few custom registry tweaks (that I will not post because I don’t want people to accidentally blow up their computers hehe) I haven’t done anything that wasn’t instructed in the graphics optimization thread linked a few pages ago. I spend much more time optimizing my connection to the server.