I too believe this game is garbage, glad to see ya'll agree with me.

I find it funny and interesting when I quest alongside with yellows and everyone seems friendly, I also find it funny when DC guild comes in and Cheydinhal turns into riot city. But I don't find it funny when people swear and insult others with no reason what so ever. I don't have to accept people's immature behaviour, but yeah it's PvP zone. Take the risk and enjoy, because Cyro dailies are one of the easiest way to farm boxes when nobody is around.

Sylphie wrote: »

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

So many people missing the point. It's not about PVP environment and whether people should be able to PVP or not (obviously they can). It's about how players are treating other players and giving a poor showing for the PVP experience/community as a whole.

If the roles were reversed it would be equally embarrassing (PVP players going into PVE and being treated poorly).

So I let a pveer go yesterday while I was doing dailies at vlas. Said player then came back with more pveers and Xv1 tbagged me.

It's almost as if both sides are capable of BMing huh?

This is why I subscribe to the "if it's red, it's dead" view of PvP. PvE'ers have no divine right to quest in Cyrodiil without being killed. If they are there, they take the risk.

I won't kill someone repeatedly if it gets boring, but that's about it for the accommodation.

Not my post, but interesting to me

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/405308/the-anniversary-event-vs-the-unrealistic-sense-of-entitlement

Thanks for the AP

Come to BGs for real PvP. If you do, you'll help make cyro less laggy for the LARP nerds .

Blobsky wrote: »

Enter PvP and expect PvP. It really is that simple.

Unless you hold block and jump up and down.

I usually play it by ear myself. Even while questing if i'm in Mainland cyro or IC I go in full pvp gear. I am always ready for a fight but I'm not thirsty. I'll gladly engage if someone wants to go at it but I tend to leave people be. But I've come across some very brutal zerg v zergs at bruma recently and obviously it's a situation where you are gonna fight. Those fights were nuts and fun but when it calmed again the few of us chilling there doing quests just left each other alone.

I will agree that PvP is fair game. But it is impossible to defeat/defend against 5 guys sitting in a building beside a quest giver killing everything that comes thru the door. I couldn't even get 5 of us in there go after them because various lag allowed them to drop their AOE before we could even draw weapons.

Thats being a jerk, and is unfair and not fun. Once, ok, i guess, you got me. But camping it for like 2 hours essentially killed that hub. I would never treat even my worst enemy like that, and its wrong. When a player impedes the enjoyment of another player repeatedly that way, there has to be a line.

Trust me, i spent hours and hours this weekend in Cyro, and i took my fair share of deaths in stride, but this was not so easy.

I have a nice story too. I was killing the Imperial LT in Cheydinhal. I had him down to about 15 percent and a yellow and blue approached from opposite directions. I stopped hitting the boss and kited him around a bit and the other two guys finished him off and we all got the credit and the kill and went on our way. It was a nice moment that reminds me that though we are there to fight, its still a game and being nice to each other is an ok thing to do. Its not how it has to be, but its nice.

Just like some PvPers pay PvE guilds to farm weapons in some trials, PvEers who want to do the quests safely should pay mercenaries to escort them

Imryll wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

allright i will bite, where should we go then to PvP?

If you're serious, last time I visited Cyrodiil there were many opportunities to PvP that didn't involve camping questgivers. Are you saying that you've been PvPing all this time, and still don't know how and where to find an actual fight?

Towns are rarely this active and they offer a different pvp experience than running in a zerg aroud the inner keeps. I've had fun going there solo and picking fights with whatever I found.

*Edited for spelling

Ever watch Private Ryan? at one point one of the US soldiers spares a German soldier only for him to kill his mate later on. (or something like that...)

If I see and AD or DC, I'm sorry, but they are in a PvP zone and therefore, fair game.

seen it too, and during them streaming, not naming any names, or shaming, and I understand that its a PVP environment - but they know exactly why those players are there

this is borderline bullying because you aren't fighting players that know/can fight back at all

some of these are not solo players but they do it in groups or with their groupies (people who follow streamers around)

I've also seen some non-streamers get in there with their groups and kill players and its kind of a *** thing to do because they won't go anywhere on the map but will just sit at these towns and kill pve'ers'/achievement hunters

A lot of these players will get hostile when you fight outnumbered against them and kill them, but the second they feel they have the edge that weird code of “don’t attack I’m questing” all falls apart and they’ll happily zerg down soloists.

Which, to be honest, is pretty fun for me.

kyle.wilson wrote: »

I was on my lowly DC in shor yesterday. Almost everyone I came across were PVErs that did not engage. I watched another DC attack someone that was obviously a PVEr with no intention of fighting.
I told the DC to leave the area and not come back or I would swap back to my main and make their life painful.
Needless to say, they left.

Aren't you noble?