DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

Ignore and move on??

Thats not the point..

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

Ignore and move on??

Pretty much this. I never understood the act of reporting players anyway, especially over something harmless such as words?

As Ive said before, I am not ZOS playground monitor. If they want to pay me and give me a GM title in game, then maybe my attitude may change. But until then..

Microsoft (from experience ) does take action better than ZOS . I always get the “we want to personally reach out and thank you, the great adventurers of tamerial...” , or however it’s worded from ZOS. Xbox will ban you in a heartbeat if you even cuss in a direct message . Anyways , I’m not sure what to tell you because I’m not PC but there will always be keyboard warriors. Unfortunately sometimes the company themselves won’t take action against them .

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

Ignore and move on??

Pretty much this. I never understood the act of reporting players anyway, especially over something harmless such as words?

As Ive said before, I am not ZOS playground monitor. If they want to pay me and give me a GM title in game, then maybe my attitude may change. But until then..

I debate with myself on this subject. (It is a lively show)

On the one hand, I am not getting paid to police their game for behavior and bots. Unless I see something really bad, where my own ToS comes into play, why bother? This is especially the case where ZOS seems to not care, like what the OP has mentioned.

On the other hand, I really don't want to see that stuff in the game. I don't want to have to put people on ignore, or see it when I don't. ZOS seems rather budget conscious. If no one reports it, does that mean that the community is OK with bad behavior, bots, etc? Maybe ZOS tunes their spending on policing the game based on reports, and if no one bothers to report, then they just don't spend the money. Does that just end up making the game worse?

Kinda weird that some people seem to get banned for one word while other don't for a lot of words. Guess that's the point you're making am I right?

That being said, I think that banning someone over words go's to far. Speach shouldn't be punished ever imo with the exception to invoking violence to someone or a certain group. Saying something offensive and hurtful isn't that. Games have a ignore/ block button after all.

You don't have to agree or like what people say but if you try to prevent them from saying it you are a bigger problem than they ever will be.

Rungar wrote: »

You don't have to agree or like what people say but if you try to prevent them from saying it you are a bigger problem than they ever will be.

Again this isn't about what is right or wrong it is a discussion about the enforcement of rules.

HighKinlady wrote: »

This is about ZOS actually taking action . Which I’m pretty sure we can all agree on doesn’t happen more than it does , and that needs to change .

Imo, they should let you know what they did with your report. Steam does it, so I don't see why Zos can't.

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Passifest wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

You don't have to agree or like what people say but if you try to prevent them from saying it you are a bigger problem than they ever will be.

Again this isn't about what is right or wrong it is a discussion about the enforcement of rules.

Yes, thats right. You will never get full agreement on what is right and what is wrong here, though some may believe their opinion is the only one that matters.

The real issue, is as you said, enforcement of the rules. And as I said, thats not my job. Let ZOS handle it, and if they let some get away with it, and others not, then what to say?

Its their rules, their playground, their decision. For those who dont like it, they have an ignore feature. Use it and problem is solved.

It’s like putting a bandaid over a cut that need stiches . Sure it may work for a few seconds but won’t solve the problem. And I agree , enforcement of the rules needs to be handled better. Ignore for you doesn’t save everyone else from dealing with the problem.

There's this thing that's called a social ban. It should be utilized more often, where a player gets his/her chat capabilities suspended, as well as mailing. This means no whispers, no guild chat, no mails, nothing. Just play the game and be quiet, better for everyone.

The social bans should be progressively longer as well, until the lesson is completely learned. If they worked on this aspect of the game and started enforcing it seriously, I guarantee you the overall 'toxicity' levels that a lot of people are complaining about, would drop in a heartbeat.

So any time someone's really nasty at you, you request a social activity review and instead of dozens of other players having to put someone on ignore, the game ignores that player for a few days or more, doing everyone a service.

I really pissed off some guy the other day because I would not duel him. I then kept using the laugh and guffaw emotes at him which mad him even more mad. I also put the Duchess personality on with red lipstick and the balding hairstyles. This was when I was playing on my male Redguard. He then mocked my fabulous character so I pulled out the Camel mount and kept spitting on him. Times like this just bring me satisfaction.

HighKinlady wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Passifest wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

You don't have to agree or like what people say but if you try to prevent them from saying it you are a bigger problem than they ever will be.

Again this isn't about what is right or wrong it is a discussion about the enforcement of rules.

Yes, thats right. You will never get full agreement on what is right and what is wrong here, though some may believe their opinion is the only one that matters.

The real issue, is as you said, enforcement of the rules. And as I said, thats not my job. Let ZOS handle it, and if they let some get away with it, and others not, then what to say?

Its their rules, their playground, their decision. For those who dont like it, they have an ignore feature. Use it and problem is solved.

It’s like putting a bandaid over a cut that need stiches . Sure it may work for a few seconds but won’t solve the problem. And I agree , enforcement of the rules needs to be handled better.

Ignore for you doesn’t save everyone else from dealing with the problem.

No, it doesnt. But theres the difference. Im here to relax and play a game. Not save the world. Especially those who couldnt care less and/or do not wish to be 'saved'.

I understand that because I find something disagreeable, not everyone else is going to feel the same way and be grateful for my interference in order to 'protect' them.

So yes, youre right that using ignore wont save everyone else, but they all have their own ignore buttons as well. If ZOS doesnt wish to act on it, then its probably best to let each individual decide for themselves, isnt it?

interesting.

that 'part of the problem' is a sword that cuts both ways.

one side may be a bit dull with overuse, though.

Everyone should be treated the same way for the same things they do. This not happening is an issue.

But this is a game rated 18+, so everyone is mature enough to just solve the issue themselves by blocking people that annoy or offend you. If they keep on following you and spamming emotes and what not you can report them for harassment or something. If enough people block you and the whole chat turns silent over time for you it'll send off a message as well. It takes less then 5 seconds to ignore someone in game. I don't know how voice chat on consoles works though. I guess it mutes them?

I just don't understand why this guy says the N word to practically everyone he interacts with and isn't banned but if someone else says something they get banned. That is what I am wondering about.

If you're on consoles it might have to do with Sony or Microsoft sometimes banning people for a while, or perhaps their account got banned for a little overall on Xbox Live or PSN. Could also just be that Zos doesn't really check all of them and that one guy just got lucky (or one didn't).