dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

lets just make it so that when we are in cryodiil, no one attacks eachother, we all just stand around use zone chat and pve.

Zone Chat is where the real PVP happens, right? That's why everyone's always fighting in it.

There's a complete difference between killing bad, puggy players who actually want to PvP and attack you in your everyday cyrodiil, and camping quest hubs during an event ganking and outnumbering players who are peacefully questing and not attacking. It's easymode if anything, but I guess some people like that.

If I'm in a pvp zone, I'm a fair target. Regardless if I'm trying to pve.. I'm still in a pvp zone.

However, it is nice when, in the case of fishing for example, you run across friendly players who understand what you're up to and don't harass you. I have done the same for others and actually met some really nice people this way.

But, what I don't understand beyond this, is the need by some players to hate tell and disrespect a player by way of "tbagging".
I understand from some players that it's their way of being funny and saying "hello".. but, if you don't know that person and you didn't disrespect them, it's just poor sportsmanship.

The whispers are really getting crazy as well. I know someone who was recently told he should shoot himself.

How in the world does anyone expect to deal with real life issues if they can't even get through a game without going insane and making threats to others? Not very mentally stable to make threats, especially over a game just because you were killed.. or because you think the person that you fought isn't a good player. It's scary to think those people are out there in the same world we all live in.... what would they do to the poor person at the fast food window if he forgets to include fries with their order?

emma666 wrote: »

Sylphie wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

There's a complete difference between killing bad, puggy players who actually want to PvP and attack you in your everyday cyrodiil, and camping quest hubs during an event ganking and outnumbering players who are peacefully questing and not attacking. It's easymode if anything, but I guess some people like that.

Look at us outnumbering these peaceful players. Won't anyone think of the pveers?!

I never knew you could grind Grand Overlord in skyreach, must be why it's so common these days.

Ofcourse anyone should fight back if someone attacks them whether pver or not, never stated otherwise. Has literally nothing to do with what I stated so don't put words in my mouth, makes you look dumb.

I was one of the top 10 GO on NA, and no, you're definitely not as clever and witty as you think you are.

Then why are you constantly under the assumption that PvPers are the ones that are "outnumbering and ganking pveers that are peacefully questing". Your two posts have been condescending, as if you're on some higher moral ground compared to pvpers that are playing in these towns.

In the end it's a pvp zone and people should be free to play it however they want without being judged and called out by other players.

And in regards to the GO comment, it was directed at the GO in said screenshot that was outnumbering us.

But hey, congrats on that achievement.

emma666 wrote: »

Sylphie wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

Sylphie wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

There's a complete difference between killing bad, puggy players who actually want to PvP and attack you in your everyday cyrodiil, and camping quest hubs during an event ganking and outnumbering players who are peacefully questing and not attacking. It's easymode if anything, but I guess some people like that.

Look at us outnumbering these peaceful players. Won't anyone think of the pveers?!

I never knew you could grind Grand Overlord in skyreach, must be why it's so common these days.

Ofcourse anyone should fight back if someone attacks them whether pver or not, never stated otherwise. Has literally nothing to do with what I stated so don't put words in my mouth, makes you look dumb.

I was one of the top 10 GO on NA, and no, you're definitely not as clever and witty as you think you are.

Then why are you constantly under the assumption that PvPers are the ones that are "outnumbering and ganking pveers that are peacefully questing". Your two posts have been condescending, as if you're on some higher moral ground compared to pvpers that are playing in these towns.

In the end it's a pvp zone and people should be free to play it however they want without being judged and called out by other players.

And in regards to the GO comment, it was directed at the GO in said screenshot that was outnumbering us.

But hey, congrats on that achievement.

Why am I under the assumption that PvPers are the ones that are killing friendly questers? Are you suggesting the opposite? I've witnessed (and sadly experienced) literal gank groups of 10 decently ranked nightblades sit by quest NPCs, waiting for solo questers to speak to said NPC, to finally gankzerg the player.

Personally, I think it's easymode for a player to go out of their way to gank, camp, kill and outnumber people who are not attacking, simply questing and enjoying an event. I say that with 4+ years of PvP experience and you're welcome to disagree.

Thanks.

And I've experienced the opposite, having seen 12+ man pve groups calling in zerg guilds to help them take back a town from 2-4 man groups.

I am not disagreeing that outnumbering players that aren't wanting to fight is easy. I'm arguing that it isn't right to assume that every pvper that shows up to the towns is looking to Xv1 pveers. I myself go there knowing that large groups of enemy players will be there as I enjoy being outnumbered.

Either way it's a pvp zone and I don't think pvpers should be vilified for playing the game as intended.

Elong wrote: »

Sylphie wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

Sylphie wrote: »

emma666 wrote: »

There's a complete difference between killing bad, puggy players who actually want to PvP and attack you in your everyday cyrodiil, and camping quest hubs during an event ganking and outnumbering players who are peacefully questing and not attacking. It's easymode if anything, but I guess some people like that.

Look at us outnumbering these peaceful players. Won't anyone think of the pveers?!

I never knew you could grind Grand Overlord in skyreach, must be why it's so common these days.

Ofcourse anyone should fight back if someone attacks them whether pver or not, never stated otherwise. Has literally nothing to do with what I stated so don't put words in my mouth, makes you look dumb.

I was one of the top 10 GO on NA, and no, you're definitely not as clever and witty as you think you are.

Then why are you constantly under the assumption that PvPers are the ones that are "outnumbering and ganking pveers that are peacefully questing". Your two posts have been condescending, as if you're on some higher moral ground compared to pvpers that are playing in these towns.

In the end it's a pvp zone and people should be free to play it however they want without being judged and called out by other players.

And in regards to the GO comment, it was directed at the GO in said screenshot that was outnumbering us.

But hey, congrats on that achievement.

That GO is me, I was waiting for my Q to pop to Vivec, so decided to do a few dailies whilst waiting.

As always with small man groups, they always forget the first fight where they 3v1'd me on the outskirts of Bruma. Then gank me trying to turn in inside this room.

As always on this forum, people always take a snapshot to suit their agenda.

Best of luck to you anyway, you hit hard for a DK.

I do not recall 3v1ing you in the outskirts at Bruma. My group tend let someone take the 1v1 if we see somebody running by themself. That said it may have happened in the heat of the moment and if so, that sucks.

As for ganking you 3v1 in the room, that's incorrect. We ran into the room as we spotted the EP zerg closing in on us. I have full footage of the clip which features us fighting EP (including yourself) outnumbered in the room.

Feel free to drop by my youtube channel if you want to check it out, I plan on making a montage of the outnumbered fights we've had this event as it's most fun pve and pvp I've had in awhile.

I did not mean to call you out in any way, I was merely just pointing out that not everyone doing quests in the towns are "outnumbered pveers".

And thanks, I try.

lol

I've actually had some pleasant conversations with others questing. That being said, it IS PvP land. And I did enjoy killing people on my level 30 baby nightblade when they would mess with me in Bruma xD

But yeah, people just camping to camp, it's kinda mean.

This whole debate is pathetic I'm afraid. It's a PvP zone, and people are PvPing.

The entitlement in this game and in particular on this forum is unreal. You don't need to be in Cyrodiil at all, plenty of other quests. And if Cyrodiil is hard then learn PvP. If it wasn't then everyone would have easy access to 50 boxes and that's ridiculous, drop rate on everything is so crazy high its unreal, market would be flooded.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

In the past few days I've been seeing experienced PVP players camping quest towns and killing and teabagging new-to-PVP players who clearly want nothing to do with fighting or capturing flags, and are only there to quest during the anniversary event. I can fully understand killing a group of lowbies once or twice if you're unsure about their intentions, but when that group consistently tries to avoid you and never fights back or tries to flag capture, why not just leave them alone?

It's such a bad look, and I get why some people complain about the PVP experience and don't even want to try it.

I've been talking to some new players who politely asked (through xbox messaging) an enemy alliance group that kept killing them if they could just quest (because they obviously stood no chance against these players). They were met with responses full of swears, insults, and general unpleasantness so they just left and went back to PVE. It's embarrassing.

I agree with your statements about the general bad attitude many exclusive pvp players display and the manner in which certain players choose to conduct themselves. I certainly understand why many pve focused players want little to do with Cyrodiil if this is what they were subjected to out of the gate.

Having said that, there shouldn't be the expectation from these pve focused players that they should and will be left alone to quest in a pvp zone....event or no event. ZOS placed these quests in the towns for the expressed purpose of creating an incentive for players to go there and create conflict areas outside of the emp ring circle. The reason pve focused players flock to Cyrodiil during this event is that these quests are quick and easy to do= high reward. The downside is that they may be ganked or killed while completing these quests =high risk. Sounds about right to me. There are plenty of daily quests one can complete for this event that don't require stepping foot in a pvp enabled area so it's not as if players are forced to engage in an activity they don't like to participate in the event.

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Why are you embarrassed ? PvP has always been this way and players are lucky to encounter nicer more forgiving players in Cyrodiil . This behavior is nothing new and new player does not mean naive . Most of them know full well going into a pvp zone means player combat and all the craziness that comes with it . New player does not mean 4 year old girl with ice cream cone skipping into a war zone and wondering why her ice cream was slapped out of her hand . More then likely it's a average Joe that's seen a few fantasy war movies and understanding there are bad guys in the realm ... No need to be embarrassed or thinking of the children lol .

VaranisArano wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Do PvE players really have to PvP for the event? Is there another way you can get the items you need?

They can do any daily quest to get the Anniversary Boxes. Its just that PVP town dailies are extremely quick and easy to do a lot of. Mind you, the ease of the quest is entirely because the risk is supposed to come from other enemy players, which is the part the PVEers out to get quick quests seem to forget about...

Spot on! Speaking the truth there!! It's greed.

The salt piles in Cropsford are going to kill the Crops!!!