Tsukiino wrote: »

Yes, with crowns

joke or not...
I think this is coming!
slot increases in sets of 25 & 50, and size of the house determines how many you can use.

aliyavana wrote: »

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

They could rework the system so that it can function with more slots on consoles, its just easier not too and why not do the easy thing instead of the better one?

I dont think PC players should be limited to consoles technologically inferior requirements. I didnt invest in a gaming pc so i can play console quality games. Its not my fault that a console has less processing power and memory than the average smartphone and the input device has less functionality than my tv remote.

Since i dont play with console players, i shouldnt be limited to their requirements. I run the game just fine minus the bugs, lag, memory leaks, FPS drops, crashes( which went away with the jester festival oddly enough since it came with it), etc on a pc built in 2009 and cost less than a new console and dozen new games for it.

its like limiting me to cassette quality music when i have HD audio because someone doesnt want to leave the 80's

Blah blah, PC, Blah, Blah. You do realize that with our "inferior" platform and all that, that we make up 2/3 the player base, which in turn makes up 2/3 of the revenue that is supplied to this game. If not for us lowly console players this game wouldn't have survived. You're welcome. I had literally thousands (hundreds of thousands) of items in Skyrim on a PS3, it loaded and did all the things just fine. It is an instanced area, my information alone. Fallout 4, I built settlements with countless resources and items, they loaded. It is clearly possible, would it require a rework of the system, perhaps, but that isn't necessarily a console issue, could be the manner in which the system was designed in the first place. Cyrodill is a lag fest on any server, irrespective of platform, FPS drop and crashes happen in Trials on all platforms. Stop blaming consoles for bad architecture.

Clearly the quoted source states console is the limiting factor, and in all honesty console players only make up the majority of the population because for Xbox there isnt much of a choice in mmos and for ps3 too few. There may be an exodus one day when more mmos enter the console scene. Hopefully zos finds a workaround but waiting for console to catch up next generation in 5 years isn't a viable solution

I am not sure it matters why console players outnumber PC players, just that they do.

The other viable solution is for you to accept the current housing limits

Would you accept them doing a calculation of the monthly total cost of maintaining additional separate code for PC and console, and then adding that to the subscription fee for PC players until they at least break even?

Edit: Annual to Monthly

Not sure why they keep releasing bigger and bigger houses then...

I’m on PS4 naserver.

A guildie has forsaken stronghold completely maxed out. Loading into it is a nightmare. It takes a long time to do anything while it loads everything. When you can move your bumping into invisible objects constantly until everything renders.

Same issue with another guildie who had ebonhart chateau. He used almost 700 blocks to build a giant stone dueling dome.

My point is the technical issue is real on console. Maybe the multi core patch that’s coming with summerset will alieviate these issues and they can start working towards adding more slots.

But that’s just you and the other high end rigs. What about the rest of the pc world that doesn’t rebuild their rig every 2 years? I’m just guessing but I’m doubting that the vast majority of casuals on pc are running that type of gear.

I wish we could use slots reserved for dungeon monster statues.

@Carbonised

There is no 'reasonable' solution where you will get a significate increase in furniture slots.

Continually asking for it is just refusing to accept the reality of hardware restriction and 'Contractual Obligation' that ESO is facing and is not going to make it happen.

It is like a child saying to their parents:

'I want to a closer look at the moon, please pull it down from the sky and so I can see it up close and touch it.'

Then when the parent replays:

'I'm sorry, the moon is to big and too far away, I can't bring it to you... but I could give you a telescope so you can at least see it better from here'

Only to have the child respond:

'NO. YOU'RE A LIAR. I DON"T WANT AN FING TELESCOPE. JUST BRING THE MOON CLOSER TO ME!'

When you ask for 'more slots' you are asking ESO to bring the moon to you.

I am just saying ask for the telescope.

No, it is not the same thing and it is not as good as getting to see the moon up close... but at least it is reasonably possible and gets you something close to what you want.

Hi @Corrinos

It really dose not matter if it is console or low end PCs that are the LCD.

The problem is that ESO has a 'contract' with it's 'customers' that says they will 'all' get to experience the same 'content'.

They would shoot themselves in the foot if they made a game where you had to have spent 5000$ on a gaming PC to experience the 'full game', which is why they have 'Min Specs' to begin with.

Players go crazy when they think that they 'purchased' the same game as their neighbor but they only get the 80% of what their neighbor can play.

You want an example look at Destiny 2 and what happened with them when they released their first expansion and cut off access to 'End Game' content if you did not buy the expansion.

(Players lost access to content they used to have access too and their was a riot on the boards)

That was not even a 'Hardware' barrier to access it was completely a 'Saftware' barrier they purposely introduced by making end game content only occur in 'new' zones that players without the 'new expansion' could not travel to.

That lasted for about a week before Bungie had to cave to the player base rage.

Now image they did something similar that was based on a 'Hardware' barrier that could not be 'undone' easily.

That is what would happen if ESO create a 'sliding scale' for 'House' content.

They have changed the "min specs" on the game in the past. Does no one remember when they stopped supporting DX9(or dx10, I forget).

Those machines had to be upgraded or could no longer run the game if they couldnt be upgraded.

Woefulmonkey wrote: »

Hi @Corrinos

It really dose not matter if it is console or low end PCs that are the LCD.

The problem is that ESO has a 'contract' with it's 'customers' that says they will 'all' get to experience the same 'content'.

They would shoot themselves in the foot if they made a game where you had to have spent 5000$ on a gaming PC to experience the 'full game', which is why they have 'Min Specs' to begin with.

Players go crazy when they think that they 'purchased' the same game as their neighbor but they only get the 80% of what their neighbor can play.

You want an example look at Destiny 2 and what happened with them when they released their first expansion and cut off access to 'End Game' content if you did not buy the expansion.

(Players lost access to content they used to have access too and their was a riot on the boards)

That was not even a 'Hardware' barrier to access it was completely a 'Saftware' barrier they purposely introduced by making end game content only occur in 'new' zones that players without the 'new expansion' could not travel to.

That lasted for about a week before Bungie had to cave to the player base rage.

Now image they did something similar that was based on a 'Hardware' barrier that could not be 'undone' easily.

That is what would happen if ESO create a 'sliding scale' for 'House' content.

mmos like wow, and eso even have lifted their minimum requirements.

@aliyavana

If ESO were to raise their Min Specs, that is a completely different situation although they may have to raise it a lot to ensure you can have a 'significant' furniture cap limit increase.

However, I think that is also unlikely because it would mean some players who paid for the game and may be paying monthly fees for it, would not be able to play it anymore without buying new hardware.

I personally have never heard of any game company making a 'Patch' that forces player onto new hardware in order continue playing a game they already paid for.

I have heard of things like what Destiny 2 did where they released an expansion and that made core elements of the 'End Game Play' system require the new expansion, there by making is so people who did not buy the expansion no longer had access to parts of the 'End Game'. (Imagine if ESO said you had to buy the next expansion in order to continue to do Random Dungeons or Daily Writ challenges.. that is basically what Bungie did.)

That was met with extreme hostility by their community. I believe they even had to cancel one of their marking talks at a convention out of fear of what the community would say in a live venue.

Woefulmonkey wrote: »

@aliyavana

If ESO were to raise their Min Specs, that is a completely different situation although they may have to raise it a lot to ensure you can have a 'significant' furniture cap limit increase.

However, I think that is also unlikely because it would mean some players who paid for the game and may be paying monthly fees for it, would not be able to play it anymore without buying new hardware.

I personally have never heard of any game company making a 'Patch' that forces player onto new hardware in order continue playing a game they already paid for.

I have heard of things like what Destiny 2 did where they released an expansion and that made core elements of the 'End Game Play' system require the new expansion, there by making is so people who did not buy the expansion no longer had access to parts of the 'End Game'. (Imagine if ESO said you had to buy the next expansion in order to continue to do Random Dungeons or Daily Writ challenges.. that is basically what Bungie did.)

That was met with extreme hostility by their community. I believe they even had to cancel one of their marking talks at a convention out of fear of what the community would say in a live venue.

Not unheard of, but spec changes are usually expansion based. WoW and Rift come to mind as two

Nestor wrote: »

This was asked, and, no, Housing Slots are not due an increase.

The reason was given as a Technical one, related to the consoles (and I am guessing lower end PC's). The exact reason was not revealed. I know the devs want to give more slots, they just can't.

The reason is a lack of confidence and communication between players and developers.
What I see since beta is that yes, ZOS gather a lot of data, read forum threads and yes, they "hear and understand" what players are telling and asking.

And do we want here? Developers don't what to reveal the real reason and tell everyone "Listen, guys, look here and here. You see? We simply can't do this due to specific problems. Yes, we want this too, but we can't." ZOS is not a military secret factory where they cant discuss their job.

I will give you an example. Last year I spent in GW2, not in ESO. What I can say is that ANet community managers do their job much and much better.
First of all, you can always find answers from ANet on forum. I mean, not just "we're closing this thread...." and "keep polite", but constructive answers. For example, in last Season ANet made s very short version of "Fear Not This Night" song, but a new one. A lot of people were asking "hey, do you have a full version?", "I WANT THIS BADLY ***" and etc. What do you think? People got a solid response "no, we didn't record the full version, but I told developers about your wish". Simply. Such things always create trusting relationships between developers and players.
But ZOS never regretted about it.

So, talking about houses.
As an owner of Hunding's Palatial I can say that even with limit of 600 items it's far from enough to decorate the house. I spent 300 of items (without a great amount of spoons and cups) and filled 1 floor only. So, 600 items should be pretty enough to decorate interior only without dishes since 100m statue and a tiny fork takes 1 slot equally.

But there's outside territory too with beach and pool (sounds good, huh?). And it's huge.
Decorating this whole territory is physycally impossible. Otherwise your house will look empty and boring. Should I show what we can see on HP's loading screen?

What is this technical reason? Consoles can't render, for example, twice objects more? Lack of memory? Perfomance problems? If the exact reason wasn't revealed, what people should think? In a lack of information people wait some updates, like they want any news from mass media if something is happened. This is how ZOS work of their trust from players?

The fact ZOS doesn't call the exact reason just shows that the real reason is different.
"Something is happening, but I want tell you want"
"Hey! I found something interesting! No, I won't tell you"

I can understand when this happens for people safety, but damn, we're talking about virtual houses in MMO.

If there's a problem with consoles, so why should PC players suffer from it? Should we blame consoles for Cyrodiil lags, for lags in trials and game disconnections/crashes? Sounds silly, don't you think? If consoles physically can't render (or whatever) twice more items (just for example), they won't be able to do that for years.

Personally I don't see neither constructive answers from ZOS (what they like most of all and always remind us about it or just close threads), nor real reasons of why PC players don't get limit increase. Maybe, ZO$ just waiting until everyone will forget about it to introduce "Crown Store limit increase"? Hey guys, we solve the problem both with consoles and PCs! It works now! Just go and buy it! Tbh, don't believe in this absurd too...