Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
Dark Cloak no longer provides stealth, but it does give you a heal [Summserset]
-
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thing is - if you run a Heavy Armour stamBlade in PvP (which a lot of People do. with Troll King on top) a class burst heal that triggers the shadow passives isn't exactly healthy design. That way you don't even need to think between Rally and FM. It's FM all the way. Will need to see how the other changes come along.
Keep in mind it'll be halfed in PvP, so it'll be 16.5% of max health. So the heal will be small on your average 25k health heavy armor build. Plus it will cost Magica, so you won't have a great amount of casts. And you give e up the ability to escape and reset fights as well as bonus stealth damage etc.
I honestly see this as a pve only skill, mainly aimed at tanks. Warden, DKs and sorcs already have a health scaling self heal, just Templars that won't now.
It really depends on the magicka cost. With your numbers that would equal a 4K burst heal non-crit and not considering CP. That's not bad if the cost is manageable.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sure do love how instead of making each class distinct, ZOS is just homogenizing them further9 -
Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sure do love how instead of making each class distinct, ZOS is just homogenizing them further
Where have you been for the past 4 years?
We, the players, were the ones who decided a long time ago that we wanted to do all 3 roles with all classes and we did set and ability kludges to make it work.
All that's happening is that ZOS is finally catching up and helping us do it.7 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭
Unless they were unhappy with how easy it was to sustain with the lower cost one.BigBadVolk wrote: »
To be fair even as a MagBlade Strife being a heal and damage skill with less cost that Force Pulse was a little silly.Drachenfier wrote: »That's cool and all, but these two changes make no sense:
Strife and its morphs have had their costs increased to be in-line with the cost of Force Pulse.
Different abilities are different?
Twisting Path has had its damage nerfed slightly.
Why? It's a stationary conal AOE that doesn't do near as much damage as mobile pbaoe's like Hurricane.
Some headscratchers in there.
ye but instead of incriesing one skill cost, they could just lower the other spammable costs
I know we all want buffs not nerfs but if we only ever take the good things the games power creep will spiral out of control.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thing is - if you run a Heavy Armour stamBlade in PvP (which a lot of People do. with Troll King on top) a class burst heal that triggers the shadow passives isn't exactly healthy design. That way you don't even need to think between Rally and FM. It's FM all the way. Will need to see how the other changes come along.
Keep in mind it'll be halfed in PvP, so it'll be 16.5% of max health. So the heal will be small on your average 25k health heavy armor build. Plus it will cost Magica, so you won't have a great amount of casts. And you give e up the ability to escape and reset fights as well as bonus stealth damage etc.
I honestly see this as a pve only skill, mainly aimed at tanks. Warden, DKs and sorcs already have a health scaling self heal, just Templars that won't now.
Exactly and also expecting further nerf adjustments during TC which will just make the morph as useless as Sorc pet heals . Wish I could be excited for this change but my gut tells me no . Just like the change to a sacrifice heal never became a popular pvp morph . Class does not need restructuring . Don't even get me started on Templar changes ...0 -
themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't think it can crit as it's a flat percentage. Percentages don't crit do they?
And this is a very good change imo, as a person who played NB for long enough.PC|EU0 -
tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Don't even get me started on Templar changes ...
Sooo... what do you think of the nerf to BoL?❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Who are you in Tamriel (whether it's just your character's attitude & style or a full backstory)? - Share your Character's Story! ◔ ⌣ ◔
(And let us know 🔷What Kind of Roleplayer You Are🔷 - even if that only extends to choosing your race)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Support Mudcrab Mode for ESO (\/)!_!(\/) - part joke, part serious, all glorious! You butter be ready for this0 -
MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭PLEASE tell me this is an April Fools joke.
How can you take away stealth from the only stealth class?1 -
tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PLEASE tell me this is an April Fools joke.
How can you take away stealth from the only stealth class?
The Shadowy Disguise morph still gives stealth❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Who are you in Tamriel (whether it's just your character's attitude & style or a full backstory)? - Share your Character's Story! ◔ ⌣ ◔
(And let us know 🔷What Kind of Roleplayer You Are🔷 - even if that only extends to choosing your race)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Support Mudcrab Mode for ESO (\/)!_!(\/) - part joke, part serious, all glorious! You butter be ready for this0 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personally loving what I'm seeing from the cllass changes aside from Sorc losing bound armor.
The sorc bound armor change is....strange.0 -
umagon✭✭✭✭✭I am liking the news of this change so much right now, I am actually leveling cloak now. It’s sat at base rank 3 for years. It’s now worth using on my tankblade. I lost count on how many times I complained about not having a burst heal, this change is very good.1
-
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Don't even get me started on Templar changes ...
Sooo... what do you think of the nerf to BoL?
I think class identity is a thing of the past and the homogenization of the classes will lead to more frustrating balance changes after .2 -
jypcy✭✭✭✭✭@themaddaedra other skill-based percentage heals can crit in the current patch (green dragon blood, polar wind, reapers mark, to name a few) so I’d assume this is the same.2
-
BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭
Unless they were unhappy with how easy it was to sustain with the lower cost one.BigBadVolk wrote: »
To be fair even as a MagBlade Strife being a heal and damage skill with less cost that Force Pulse was a little silly.Drachenfier wrote: »That's cool and all, but these two changes make no sense:
Strife and its morphs have had their costs increased to be in-line with the cost of Force Pulse.
Different abilities are different?
Twisting Path has had its damage nerfed slightly.
Why? It's a stationary conal AOE that doesn't do near as much damage as mobile pbaoe's like Hurricane.
Some headscratchers in there.
ye but instead of incriesing one skill cost, they could just lower the other spammable costs
I know we all want buffs not nerfs but if we only ever take the good things the games power creep will spiral out of control.
I understand that, but still sustain is still not that ez with mnb ( at least with bluefood, with the new golden its ez true) its just we go back homestead where it doesnt really worth running funnel over force pulse cause same price (at least thats how I interpret it now) I mean if they increase its cost at least heal more than one person or adjust its damage otherwise it will fall into oblivion again in endgame pve (especially if we count in asylum destro staff)"The ass is similar to the opinion: Everyone has it, but no one cares about the others!"
I'm 120 years old0 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭that heal is actually very strong if it works the way I think it does. The other morph is still stealth, so what are you crying about?Edited by Ragnarock41 on April 3, 2018 5:03PM2 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This change is awesome. My NB tank really needed a burst heal and putting the option on a morph that many pvper's will still use the other of in cyrodiil will keep it from being OP.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
AD • NA • PC0 -
themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭@themaddaedra other skill-based percentage heals can crit in the current patch (green dragon blood, polar wind, reapers mark, to name a few) so I’d assume this is the same.
Thanks for correction
PC|EU0 -
makreth✭✭✭✭✭wow more homogenization....i wonder if there will be any class or if they will mean anything in a year from now...4
-
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭I'm tingling with excitement. Making a true self healing Nightblade tank is a much more solid build should these make it to live.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
|| DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
|| EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)1 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »that heal is actually very strong if it works the way I think it does. The other morph is still stealth, so what are you crying about?
NBs want both. NBs get more buffs though and not sufficient. We need cloak immediately right now.0 -
MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭tinythinker wrote: »
Phew... ok this sounds kinda cool. My tank build will change, but the 33% heal would be a bonus.1 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »that heal is actually very strong if it works the way I think it does. The other morph is still stealth, so what are you crying about?
NBs want both. NBs get more buffs though and not sufficient. We need cloak immediately right now.
If they want a cloak and a heal for basically one third of their hp on top if it, they can *** off 0 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭So.....the slowest class with the longest animations has now lost it's only stun from deep fissure, not to mention wardens don't have an execute either.
So they decide to buff their healing and ult regeneration even more which is where they were really overpowered.
So now wardens will be even harder to kill, but at least they won't be able to kill you anymore. Interesting, are the dev's even playing the same game we are?
0 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭
@OdinForge they kept the minor protection part that's crazy.The morph dark cloak no longer provides invisibility, it's an instant heal for 32% of max HP + minor protection.
0
