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My Early Review of Summerset Updated with Details

  • Nestor
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    @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

    Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

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  • casparian
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    Nestor wrote: »
    @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

    Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

    Thanks for the info. Sounds pretty PVE-centric.

    I guess it is too much to hope for significant PVP-improvement news to come out of this. After all, Cyrodiil isn't "new content". Still looking forward to next week though.
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  • Banana
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    Im old. I dont like waiting :/
  • Vaoh
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    *bookmarked* :)
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Nestor wrote: »
    @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

    Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

    Ah, okay. I would consider those guys "min-maxers". They theory craft to get optimal results.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 30, 2018 2:54AM
  • Faulgor
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    I'm out of the loop. How/when/where did you get to play Summerset? What's going on?
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    Inb4 account ban next tuesday
  • ZiRM
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    I didn't fall for the click bait... I was just magically sucked into this thread!
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  • Cinbri
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    Morrowind > Summerset
  • Sigma957
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    Wish I was there, I'd give up a weeks worth of work to take the plane trip
    casparian wrote: »
    @Nestor when you say there are no min-maxers there, can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Arguably, many balance issues only matter when one is trying to min-max (that's true in PVE and even more so in PVP), so it sounds a little like you're saying that no one is there representing the set of players for whom balance changes will have the most actual impact. That's a little concerning.

    Gillian is there as well, he said in a video on his youtude channel.
    Edited by Sigma957 on March 30, 2018 6:02AM
  • SantieClaws
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    It's going to be Awesome!


    Details to come Tuesday.

    This just sounds like a way of bragging that you got early testing. How about just wait until you can tell us something....?

    It may very well be nothing but an excuse to brag, but I think @Nestor has earned it. I mean, being part of this test is brag-worthy, and if anyone on this forum has earned the right to swagger a little, it's.... ok, well, it's SantieClaws. But Nestor is #2!

    I happily defer to Santie

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    Nestor wrote: »
    @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

    Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

    This sounds very interesting. Do you know if they did this last year during Morrowind's testing process as well?
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  • Zagnut123Zagnut123
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    Nestor wrote: »
    @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

    Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

    Ok you had me worried there
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Also, I will add we have had devs talking to us and listening to us all day long. And they are taking pages of notes from our feeback on both new content and base game systems. They really do care.

    They are listening now when its late. Also listening wont fix lag and performance issues...
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Also, I will add we have had devs talking to us and listening to us all day long. And they are taking pages of notes from our feeback on both new content and base game systems. They really do care.

    Well they "listened" to all the feedback they got for Morrowind.

    They just didn't "hear"any of it, or do anything with it.


    "Listening" isn't enough - hearing and doing are what count.


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  • Zeni0s
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    Wow the marketing is now using popular players instead of they own brain.

    Wanna see the end.
  • crjs1
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    I’m very jealous here! I know you can’t say anything, so no point asking lol.. But will those people worried that the architecture is not ‘Altmer’ enough be relieved? I still praying for glass roofs!

    I am hyped to the max!
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    crjs1 wrote: »
    I’m very jealous here! I know you can’t say anything, so no point asking lol.. But will those people worried that the architecture is not ‘Altmer’ enough be relieved? I still praying for glass roofs!

    I am hyped to the max!

    In the book that in which this whole insect wing/glass thingy was written literally next sentence says that this is fake.
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    Now that I think about it - are they Agile? How long is their sprint cycle? Do they do code reviews?

    Kidding, I'd be very surprised if those things came up. ;)

    I'd be more surprised if they didn't. MMO programming isn't dissimilar to large corporations. I'm quite sure there are several teams which work on specifics within the game, and discuss performance and change issues.

    Given the patch releases, they may not have defined sprint cycles, but I can bet they do have deadlines, and in order for patches to work, code reviews would be necessary.

    Looking forward to Summerset. Or rather, Razum-dar and jewelry crafting.

    Still not sure how I feel about the Crystal Tower.

    Edit: looks like ZoS added another filter. "Crystal" wasn't my original word.

    Edited by Violynne on March 30, 2018 10:27AM
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    Radinyn wrote: »
    In the book that in which this whole insect wing/glass thingy was written literally next sentence says that this is fake.

    ??? It says no such thing:
    Alinor
    A forbidden city for nearly fifty years, Alinor is both capital of the Summerset Isles and the heart of the Aldmeri Dominion. Human traders were only allowed at its ports, and they described the city as "made from glass or insect wings." Less fantastic accounts come from the Imperial emissaries of the Reman Dynasty, which describe the city as straight and glimmering, "a hypnotic swirl of ramparts and impossibly high towers, designed to catch the light of the sun and break it to its component colors, which lies draped across its stones until you are thankful for nightfall."

    But take it to the apropriate thread.

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  • Radinyn
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    Radinyn wrote: »
    In the book that in which this whole insect wing/glass thingy was written literally next sentence says that this is fake.

    ??? It says no such thing:
    Alinor
    A forbidden city for nearly fifty years, Alinor is both capital of the Summerset Isles and the heart of the Aldmeri Dominion. Human traders were only allowed at its ports, and they described the city as "made from glass or insect wings." Less fantastic accounts come from the Imperial emissaries of the Reman Dynasty, which describe the city as straight and glimmering, "a hypnotic swirl of ramparts and impossibly high towers, designed to catch the light of the sun and break it to its component colors, which lies draped across its stones until you are thankful for nightfall."

    But take it to the apropriate thread.

    " Less fantastic accounts come [...]"
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    Jewelery crafting, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild SHOULD BE part of base game.
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Jewelery crafting, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild SHOULD BE part of base game.

    Yes, they should be. "Should" being the operative word here, but that ship has sailed long ago.
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    • cmetzger93
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      I wish the devs would just ask on the forums instead of inviting just a privileged few who are supposed to speak for the masses and take everything they say as gospel.
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      Nestor wrote: »
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      Lol you’re so funny.

      You get the click bait award tho :smirk:

      I said NDA safe, what did you expect? :wink:

      However I wish I could tell you why it's going to be great. Tuesday.

      I dare you to break nda ...don’t tho I’m just joking
      I have a serious question no one in here will ask.

      -How nice are the bathrooms?
      -Do they have a cafe?
      -what’s the food menu?
      -Do they have ergonomic desks and chairs?
      -Eyestrain monitors?
      -Casual dress code?

      Typical office building bathrooms.
      They have cafe.
      Decent menu, good coffee
      Nice work spaces, multi monitor displays, lots of gaming swag all over the place, even for other games.
      Very casual dress code.

      I am currently in Wroebels car on the way out to dinner.
      So do they also have Xbox consoles they test future content on?
    • Nestor
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      Nestor wrote: »
      @casparian @Zagnut123Zagnut123

      Alcast and Worley and Xynode are just 3 of the theory crafters here parsing all the new stuff and devs are standing behind then watching and getting feedback. There are others but I did not ask them for permission to post their names. Anyway, all of them are trying out as many combos as they can and the devs are watching each parse. I can't say anymore about the details of what is coming from the testing. I will let them talk about it on Tuesday.

      Ah, okay. I would consider those guys "min-maxers". They theory craft to get optimal results.

      To me, a min maxers is the one who looks for only the optimal build and ignores all other ways to play. The folks that are here are the ones who figure out how to make different combos work to be efficient. It's a matter of perspective more than anything else. To me the min maxers have only one way to play the game and feel that any other combo or build sucks. For example only a Redguard Stam DPS is worth rolling.

      So maybe I should have said there are no myopic fanatics here :wink:
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      What an awesome and detailed review! ;)

      Thanks! :D
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    • Torbschka
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      Cant understand what u all have with this "only people who min max" - they are clearly experts in terms of ESO mechanics/understanding?

      So u wanna go send there? I dont understand this.
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      Reverb wrote: »
      Nestor wrote: »
      It's going to be Awesome!


      Details to come Tuesday.

      This just sounds like a way of bragging that you got early testing. How about just wait until you can tell us something....?

      *throws flower petals at @BANK_IT_HERE * Lighten up, Francis.

      @Reverb Ummm i'm fine....my opinion is this is an excuse to brag, and of no value. Sooo, yeah.
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      "Yeah, and it got me a hotel room and food for a week, plus plane tickets, and worked with the professionals to make it better."

      "...."

      Wait, @Nestor, they kept you for a full week? That would explain many things... like autocorrect.
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