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The Obvious NB Bias Is Sickening

  • Thunderknuckles
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    I main a stamblade, and have been playing him for about a year now. I'm still learning the class. I'm currently at CP635 and totally geared for PvP in all respects (CP allocation and gear) and while I can survive a lot of 1v1's....you get a couple of CP720's on me and it's a mad scramble to stay alive. Granted, there are some 720CP stamblades out there that know the class backwards and forwards and THEY are the few that are smoking people on a regular basis. They are the few that are 1vX'ing.

    The people whining about NB's being OP have merely encountered one of these extremely good players. The majority of NB's, when popped out of stealth and focused by more than 1, go down with ease. From my own perspective sorcs and wardens are a muuuuuch bigger PITA to take down than most NB's. Like, easily handle 2 to 5 players at once.
  • ascan7
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    Nightblades are the best class for like what, 3 months at best? And you are already crying so much. I guess the bias is yours
  • LadyLethalla
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Sorcs were “perfect” when they had longer wards, and didn’t have a penalty on Bolt Escape. They were “perfect” when pets could hold aggro and taunt bosses, if the Sorc player was solo. But all that was changed, because it was viewed as “overperforming”.

    Uhh... I've been using the Clannfear to solo group dungeons, and he keeps aggro very nicely thank you. The rest of it: I don't use Bolt but I do wish that the Ward was longer.





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  • Dymence
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Nah man, haven't you heard? ZOS hates nightblades!

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    Holy *** that chat :D

    Also, this thread is stupid.

    Essentially you are saying because every other class was overnerfed so should NB.

    All this post is doing is advocating for ZOS to continue their unintelligent nerfing pattern. Stop that.
    Edited by Dymence on March 21, 2018 12:15AM
  • Meld777
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    Now that Miats got nerfed, all those newbies start crying. L2P will solve your problems. NB is not overpowered, not a bit. Every skill is dodgeable, avoidable, predictable, and, when it comes to Incapacitating Strike, bugged (consumes ulti without going off cuz of sudden gap increase).

    If you're getting hit by incap more than 1 out of 10 times, get off the forums and learn to play.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    WTF is this? Every single time Nightblades appear to be overtuned and dramatically ahead of the other classes, drones and drones of people swarm in to say, “Hey, NB’s are just perfect right now. They don’t need anything changed.” WTF? Why not Sorcs? Why not Templars and Wardens? Why not DK’s?

    This is the case with every OP class. Nobody who mains an OP class wants it to stop being OP.

    You get the same mentality when people ask for a UP class to be buffed (like warden). You get people who like other classes being weaker claiming that no buffs are needed.

    TLDR: People are selfish.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 21, 2018 12:16AM
  • Dymence
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    And people always used to say sorc was the devs favorite class. Now it's NB. Only because it's one of the best classes now? Smh.

    You people don't know what you want. And talking like NB has been top dog for years is incredibly ignorant considering what a garbage tier class it was for a very, very long time.

    I would say NB is on the perfect balance point and should be used as a measurement for buffing and reworking the other classes.
  • Malthorne
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    Nightblades are incredibly strong right now and have been for a while. If you play nightblade and claim they are weak or underperforming you are either intentionally lying or you are just bad. Judging by the forum comments there seem to be A LOT of really bad players here.

    FYI: I’m not saying nerf nightblades. I think most of us have had enough of the blanket nerfs that have been passed around through the years. Just be honest with yourselves about the state of your class.
  • KingYogi415
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    MaxwellC wrote: »
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    Yeah the point I'm making is when they back off most if not all nightblades have a ranged backbar so they hit you from afar, cloak (which still procs stealth bonus since you're out of detect range) and ambush into incap,etc.

    The nerf to the detect pot range/duration was a stupid idea, the hard counter only works if it actually lasts a good amount of time e.g 15 seconds+.

    Yah, you have have some sort of skill. You can't just pop them on a sniper and expect it to work.

    Just hold block for their incap, use detect pot and chase them down.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    geonsocal wrote: »
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    that's it, let it all out...that's what the forums are for - that and funny images...

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    ascan7 wrote: »
    Nightblades are the best class for like what, 3 months at best? And you are already crying so much. I guess the bias is yours

    Stamblade been top 3 since before proc meta, just buggy asf.
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  • MaxwellC
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    @KingYogi415
    Yeah I don't use snipe and you seem to ignore my point regarding the detect pots having their up-time limited.
    You also have this idea that one is able to keep popping a detect pot while the nightblade hides in stealth which you're able to then crouch and wait in stealth so your magic can regen.

    My point I'm making here is if they want to allow that hard counter to actually work then they need to bring back the duration and the range of detect pots. People always made this excuse that nightblades are some glass cannon when that is only by ARMOR SETUP and not the class in its self.

    Nightblades are fine as they are now but the actual counters to them AREN'T.
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    I main a stamblade, and have been playing him for about a year now. I'm still learning the class. I'm currently at CP635 and totally geared for PvP in all respects (CP allocation and gear) and while I can survive a lot of 1v1's....you get a couple of CP720's on me and it's a mad scramble to stay alive. Granted, there are some 720CP stamblades out there that know the class backwards and forwards and THEY are the few that are smoking people on a regular basis. They are the few that are 1vX'ing.

    The people whining about NB's being OP have merely encountered one of these extremely good players. The majority of NB's, when popped out of stealth and focused by more than 1, go down with ease. From my own perspective sorcs and wardens are a muuuuuch bigger PITA to take down than most NB's. Like, easily handle 2 to 5 players at once.

    NBs are not in the top position because of those 'extremely good' players. But the class in itself has huge burst potential not even a sorc/stamina warden can match. For a sorc to come close to its burst potential, you have to have the frag proc'd. NB doesn't have to. And they also have proc at will burst, a.k.a Merciless Resolve and other morph. Things like these are what makes NB the best class in the game. Their escape mechanic is better than any other classes as well and their defense is not actually bad unlike what people claim.

    Also, you can apply your logic to other classes such as DK. How DK was only OP in the hands of good players and etc, for example. But that did not stop ZOS from nerfing them into oblivion. DKs and Sorcs got nerfed. I remember major source of complaints was Nightblades at the time. So, it is only natural that you see these popup because none can literally match NB as of now on paper and in game.

    NB is in great place unless you are the NB bow spammer and ganker that fails on a lot of ganks on those who are not afk. I've finally taken my incomplete NB out to Cyrodiil and had a good time solo, zergsurf, small scale. Even got a hate tell while playing it too. I just wish other classes were up to par.
    Edited by IZZEFlameLash on March 21, 2018 12:38AM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    MaxwellC wrote: »
    @KingYogi415
    Yeah I don't use snipe and you seem to ignore my point regarding the detect pots having their up-time limited.
    You also have this idea that one is able to keep popping a detect pot while the nightblade hides in stealth which you're able to then crouch and wait in stealth so your magic can regen.

    My point I'm making here is if they want to allow that hard counter to actually work then they need to bring back the duration and the range of detect pots. People always made this excuse that nightblades are some glass cannon when that is only by ARMOR SETUP and not the class in its self.

    Nightblades are fine as they are now but the actual counters to them AREN'T.

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  • Pastas
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    the truth is that nightblade class is now and has allways been the weakest class in eso.
    they need to make a new stealth rogue type class that has better skills then nightblades do.

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  • chaserstorm16909
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    Just watch. All these nerf nb threads are going to result in Wrobel nerfing magblades AGAIN, while stamblades will somehow get buffed.
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    I don't care how they nerf NB since day 1 , that's why I also made 720 DK , SORC and TEMPLAR .
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Just watch. All these nerf nb threads are going to result in Wrobel nerfing magblades AGAIN, while stamblades will somehow get buffed.

    Most likely. I do not want to see NBs nerfed. But I want other classes to be brought up to the level. Sad but this will more or less be true. Lol.
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  • Sixty5
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    Dymence wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Nah man, haven't you heard? ZOS hates nightblades!

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    Holy *** that chat :D

    Also, this thread is stupid.

    Essentially you are saying because every other class was overnerfed so should NB.

    All this post is doing is advocating for ZOS to continue their unintelligent nerfing pattern. Stop that.

    Believe me, that chat got worse.

    Saying that his healers were garbage and dying, and how cloak was a viable dps skill.

    Honestly it was funny as hell.
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  • jerj6925
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    Just learn to play, Champ.

    Seriously, most of the issues people have with other classes in PVP can be fixed with self investment, practice, and diversification of their toolset (builds). No need to go running to mom and dad because you can't get ahead.

    You should be a politician or at least go work for Hillary, she could your skills you displayed here.
  • zParallaxz
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    WTF is this? Every single time Nightblades appear to be overtuned and dramatically ahead of the other classes, drones and drones of people swarm in to say, “Hey, NB’s are just perfect right now. They don’t need anything changed.” WTF? Why not Sorcs? Why not Templars and Wardens? Why not DK’s?

    Sorcs were “perfect” when they had longer wards, and didn’t have a penalty on Bolt Escape. They were “perfect” when pets could hold aggro and taunt bosses, if the Sorc player was solo. But all that was changed, because it was viewed as “overperforming”. But Nightblades aren’t overperforming currently?

    Templars were fine when they had their disorient and stun on their AoE spear, and when they had Major Mending. But no. That was viewed as “too strong”, and was striped away from them. They were fine when they could start using Radiant Destruction on targets below 50% health, but again. That was viewed as “too strong”. Yet Nightblades are fine and perfect, right?

    And the F’ing DK’s. DK’s were fine when they could reflect Meteor. They were fine when their Fossilize has a larger range, and was capable of actually being front line soldiers. But again, all of that was viewed as far too much. And you cut them down patch after freaking patch. And again, Nightblades are fine. Right?

    And then with the Wardens. Because people’s dodge roll monkey blades couldn’t cheese the damn birds, you go and give them a gut blow to their spammable. Because that was unfair to the vast majority of the player base (who just so happens to main NB’s). Am I right? And look at the state of magicka Wardens now. G freaking G.

    But oh. Let alone mention anything about how much this game is plagued by the pestilence of Nightblades, and the waves of defenders come out of the bush like Charlie in ‘Nam. Literally ambushing the thread, and claiming how their precious class is “just perfect”. Yeah. I get it now. Just perfect at overperforming.

    And you devs? You devs do nothing. You don’t do a damn thing about it. For years now you’ve done nothing about the Nightblade problem, but go and give them more and more tools to stand out and be the top class. Even streamers like @FENGRUSH has said on numerous occasions about how bs the class is, and how strong the element of stealth is in PvP. And again, it falls on deaf ears. Why? Because it’s the dev’s favorite. It’s the class that the majority of the player base mains across all platforms, and therefore you devs take the coward route. You’d rather go and give the shaft to every other class, and buff the most overperforming class (even if indirectly). Rather than do what’s right, and bring things in line with each other. And it’s stupid. It’s literally stupid.

    I have said it before, and I’ll keep saying it. You devs are EXACTLY like Blizzard when it comes to Genji. The Overwatch version of a Nightblade. And because it is the “assassin character”, you all refuse to do what is right in bringing the hero in line with everyone else. Or in this case, the class. So my question is this, to the Rich Lambert’s and Matt’s and Wrobels. When are you going to give Nightblades a katana-esque ultimate, and add in some random dragon effects? When are you going to let Nightblades throw shuriken, and wall climb? When are you going to let Nightblade skills on cooldown have a reset whenever they assist in killing someone? When are you going to give the class an overall more Japanese vibe? Because pretty much, that’s all that is needed to have the 2 fall in line with each other. You already have the majority of the player base playing the class for obvious reasons. You might as well just put the icing on the cake, and be done with it. /rant

    Ur right on all terms but cheese monkey blade was funny af.
  • jerj6925
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    the truth is that nightblade class is now and has allways been the weakest class in eso.
    they need to make a new stealth rogue type class that has better skills then nightblades do.

    Another Lie, if this was true then the NB class would be one of the most under utilized classes rather than its the most used currently.
  • jerj6925
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    Just slot detect pots,

    NB’s will melt!

    These along with Radiant mage light are bugged and will not always work, also I shouldn't be stunned from attacks from a player that's hidden... I get stunned all the time.
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