Sorcs were “perfect” when they had longer wards, and didn’t have a penalty on Bolt Escape. They were “perfect” when pets could hold aggro and taunt bosses, if the Sorc player was solo. But all that was changed, because it was viewed as “overperforming”.
Nah man, haven't you heard? ZOS hates nightblades!
WTF is this? Every single time Nightblades appear to be overtuned and dramatically ahead of the other classes, drones and drones of people swarm in to say, “Hey, NB’s are just perfect right now. They don’t need anything changed.” WTF? Why not Sorcs? Why not Templars and Wardens? Why not DK’s?
@KingYogi415
Yeah the point I'm making is when they back off most if not all nightblades have a ranged backbar so they hit you from afar, cloak (which still procs stealth bonus since you're out of detect range) and ambush into incap,etc.
The nerf to the detect pot range/duration was a stupid idea, the hard counter only works if it actually lasts a good amount of time e.g 15 seconds+.
that's it, let it all out...that's what the forums are for - that and funny images...
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Thunderknuckles wrote: »I main a stamblade, and have been playing him for about a year now. I'm still learning the class. I'm currently at CP635 and totally geared for PvP in all respects (CP allocation and gear) and while I can survive a lot of 1v1's....you get a couple of CP720's on me and it's a mad scramble to stay alive. Granted, there are some 720CP stamblades out there that know the class backwards and forwards and THEY are the few that are smoking people on a regular basis. They are the few that are 1vX'ing.
The people whining about NB's being OP have merely encountered one of these extremely good players. The majority of NB's, when popped out of stealth and focused by more than 1, go down with ease. From my own perspective sorcs and wardens are a muuuuuch bigger PITA to take down than most NB's. Like, easily handle 2 to 5 players at once.
@KingYogi415
Yeah I don't use snipe and you seem to ignore my point regarding the detect pots having their up-time limited.
You also have this idea that one is able to keep popping a detect pot while the nightblade hides in stealth which you're able to then crouch and wait in stealth so your magic can regen.
My point I'm making here is if they want to allow that hard counter to actually work then they need to bring back the duration and the range of detect pots. People always made this excuse that nightblades are some glass cannon when that is only by ARMOR SETUP and not the class in its self.
Nightblades are fine as they are now but the actual counters to them AREN'T.
dwemer_paleologist wrote: »the truth is that nightblade class is now and has allways been the weakest class in eso.
they need to make a new stealth rogue type class that has better skills then nightblades do.
chaserstorm16909 wrote: »Just watch. All these nerf nb threads are going to result in Wrobel nerfing magblades AGAIN, while stamblades will somehow get buffed.
Nah man, haven't you heard? ZOS hates nightblades!
Holy *** that chat
Also, this thread is stupid.
Essentially you are saying because every other class was overnerfed so should NB.
All this post is doing is advocating for ZOS to continue their unintelligent nerfing pattern. Stop that.
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Just learn to play, Champ.
Seriously, most of the issues people have with other classes in PVP can be fixed with self investment, practice, and diversification of their toolset (builds). No need to go running to mom and dad because you can't get ahead.
WTF is this? Every single time Nightblades appear to be overtuned and dramatically ahead of the other classes, drones and drones of people swarm in to say, “Hey, NB’s are just perfect right now. They don’t need anything changed.” WTF? Why not Sorcs? Why not Templars and Wardens? Why not DK’s?
Sorcs were “perfect” when they had longer wards, and didn’t have a penalty on Bolt Escape. They were “perfect” when pets could hold aggro and taunt bosses, if the Sorc player was solo. But all that was changed, because it was viewed as “overperforming”. But Nightblades aren’t overperforming currently?
Templars were fine when they had their disorient and stun on their AoE spear, and when they had Major Mending. But no. That was viewed as “too strong”, and was striped away from them. They were fine when they could start using Radiant Destruction on targets below 50% health, but again. That was viewed as “too strong”. Yet Nightblades are fine and perfect, right?
And the F’ing DK’s. DK’s were fine when they could reflect Meteor. They were fine when their Fossilize has a larger range, and was capable of actually being front line soldiers. But again, all of that was viewed as far too much. And you cut them down patch after freaking patch. And again, Nightblades are fine. Right?
And then with the Wardens. Because people’s dodge roll monkey blades couldn’t cheese the damn birds, you go and give them a gut blow to their spammable. Because that was unfair to the vast majority of the player base (who just so happens to main NB’s). Am I right? And look at the state of magicka Wardens now. G freaking G.
But oh. Let alone mention anything about how much this game is plagued by the pestilence of Nightblades, and the waves of defenders come out of the bush like Charlie in ‘Nam. Literally ambushing the thread, and claiming how their precious class is “just perfect”. Yeah. I get it now. Just perfect at overperforming.
And you devs? You devs do nothing. You don’t do a damn thing about it. For years now you’ve done nothing about the Nightblade problem, but go and give them more and more tools to stand out and be the top class. Even streamers like @FENGRUSH has said on numerous occasions about how bs the class is, and how strong the element of stealth is in PvP. And again, it falls on deaf ears. Why? Because it’s the dev’s favorite. It’s the class that the majority of the player base mains across all platforms, and therefore you devs take the coward route. You’d rather go and give the shaft to every other class, and buff the most overperforming class (even if indirectly). Rather than do what’s right, and bring things in line with each other. And it’s stupid. It’s literally stupid.
I have said it before, and I’ll keep saying it. You devs are EXACTLY like Blizzard when it comes to Genji. The Overwatch version of a Nightblade. And because it is the “assassin character”, you all refuse to do what is right in bringing the hero in line with everyone else. Or in this case, the class. So my question is this, to the Rich Lambert’s and Matt’s and Wrobels. When are you going to give Nightblades a katana-esque ultimate, and add in some random dragon effects? When are you going to let Nightblades throw shuriken, and wall climb? When are you going to let Nightblade skills on cooldown have a reset whenever they assist in killing someone? When are you going to give the class an overall more Japanese vibe? Because pretty much, that’s all that is needed to have the 2 fall in line with each other. You already have the majority of the player base playing the class for obvious reasons. You might as well just put the icing on the cake, and be done with it. /rant
dwemer_paleologist wrote: »the truth is that nightblade class is now and has allways been the weakest class in eso.
they need to make a new stealth rogue type class that has better skills then nightblades do.
KingYogi415 wrote: »Just slot detect pots,
NB’s will melt!