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Does anyone still use the Frost Staff ever?
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Cage_Lizardman✭✭✭✭✭I have a dd setup for my mag warden tank that includes a maelstrom frost staff, so that she can tank most vet dungeons and still do decent damage.
Also got a perfected asylum frost staff, but it's completely useless as far as I can tell.0 -
dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i sometimes use it when i want to be annoying during defence of keeps in cyrodill but thats honestly all its really good for, the damage is to low and its status is shrugable but slightly annoying, nobody likes snares.PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.0 -
Hanokihs✭✭✭✭✭I kind of wonder if lightning is a go-to for a lot of people because it does tick damage and the effect channels. Maybe if the ice staff utilized a blizzard beam instead of the "ice balls" animation, it would be more popular for tanks and non-tri-focus players? I figure a lot are less willing to try it when they realize their attacks all miss when their aim is the slightest bit off."I haven't really played much yet, but lemme tell you all about how the game should include X and be a lot more like Y!" - Half the posters on this forum."I've been here for years, and lemme tell you all about how they should never change or evolve Z, because then the game would be ruined forever." - The other half of posters on this forum.2 -
MJallday✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love the Warden. I also love Cryomancy along with Green Nature and Beast Magic.
So... my weapon of choice for the Warden is the Frost Staff.
Frost Destruction + Warden Frost Skills = Immersive as ***!
Don’t Like the new Tri-Focus Passive? Just avoid it! Simplicity Itself.
Although I see waaaay more people use an Inferno or Lightning Staff alot more than they use the Frost Staff.
Inferno/Lightning Destruction + Warden Frost Skills = Makes No Sense Whatsoever!
I woder if anyone still uses the Frost Staff at all, especially when they play as the Warden?
someone was in my run of vAA last night.. made it fun when trying to control the axes...
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I kind of wonder if lightning is a go-to for a lot of people because it does tick damage and the effect channels. Maybe if the ice staff utilized a blizzard beam instead of the "ice balls" animation, it would be more popular for tanks and non-tri-focus players? I figure a lot are less willing to try it when they realize their attacks all miss when their aim is the slightest bit off.
frostbite is an indication frost staffs can be "blizzard beams" so why not?
i'm game for that, hell let fire do the samePLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.1 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I kind of wonder if lightning is a go-to for a lot of people because it does tick damage and the effect channels. Maybe if the ice staff utilized a blizzard beam instead of the "ice balls" animation, it would be more popular for tanks and non-tri-focus players? I figure a lot are less willing to try it when they realize their attacks all miss when their aim is the slightest bit off.
frostbite is an indication frost staffs can be "blizzard beams" so why not?
i'm game for that, hell let fire do the same
Id more prefer the Ice spike animations from skyrim. Stick them full of icicles. xD3 -
makreth✭✭✭✭✭Vanthras79 wrote: »I think frost damage should drain stamina. Perhaps lightning damage should sap magicka too.
and flame staff should burn clothes . It would be cool! More naked people out there is never a dull thing! 1 -
Shanjijri✭✭✭✭Sometimes I see a tank with an ice staff. Never see a DD with it. As I only play healer, I never see one with it too, I use resto/lightning.
If staves were count as 2 pieces like DW and S&B, I think tank would use it more.0 -
Maura_Neysa✭✭✭✭✭Vanthras79 wrote: »I think frost damage should drain stamina. Perhaps lightning damage should sap magicka too.
It does
Via massive amounts of CC, which cost stamina. Maiden Maura - Xbox NA
Warden Ice Tank (By far my favorite) -RIP #NerfmireStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer(solo tanked), Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe,Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's CoadjutorDragon Knight Healer (Since Homestead)
MajorShehai Shatterer, Mageslayer,Warden 2x Bow DPSStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe, Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor, Sunspire Saint,Others
PvP StamDen, Warden Healer, MagDen, Stamplar, StamSorc, DK Failed Attempt, NB Failed Attempt
Playing BiS isn't impressive, playing unique at BiS lvl, THAT's impressive.0 -
Maura_Neysa✭✭✭✭✭I kind of wonder if lightning is a go-to for a lot of people because it does tick damage and the effect channels. Maybe if the ice staff utilized a blizzard beam instead of the "ice balls" animation, it would be more popular for tanks and non-tri-focus players? I figure a lot are less willing to try it when they realize their attacks all miss when their aim is the slightest bit off.
frostbite is an indication frost staffs can be "blizzard beams" so why not?
i'm game for that, hell let fire do the same
Actually many, including me, hate the channel. It screws up weaving with its HA bug. Please do NOT turn Frost into a channelEdited by Maura_Neysa on March 19, 2018 10:06AMMaiden Maura - Xbox NA
Warden Ice Tank (By far my favorite) -RIP #NerfmireStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer(solo tanked), Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe,Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's CoadjutorDragon Knight Healer (Since Homestead)
MajorShehai Shatterer, Mageslayer,Warden 2x Bow DPSStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe, Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor, Sunspire Saint,Others
PvP StamDen, Warden Healer, MagDen, Stamplar, StamSorc, DK Failed Attempt, NB Failed Attempt
Playing BiS isn't impressive, playing unique at BiS lvl, THAT's impressive.0 -
TankHealz2015✭✭✭
I always use the frost staff on back bar for tanking (PvE) and I love it.
After reading some comments here, I tried it out last night in Imperial City for small PvP skirmishes.
I'd love to see some improvements, but as it is now, it is still good.
Block cost = magika is probably the thing I like the best.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love the ice staff. What I don't like is that it is a taunt, so I have to have something to swap in when I don't want to taunt.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
PSN NA/EU: @ElsonsoJannus
Total in-game hours: 11321
X/Twitter: ElsonsoJannus0 -
Chaos2088✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Cannot scream loud enough that I would love a bit of a touch up for frost staff so that could use it on par with lighting and fire in PvE.
Does work quiet well for pvp however.....:)@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP0 -
Mojomonkeyman✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's absurdly good on magwarden in BGs esp. in combo with woe (chilled will proc very reliably + crowd control). I learned to prefer it over any other staff choice.Koma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy0 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Healing bar for my PVP stam warden. Great for block-casting spores cuttting dive, and subterranean assault.0 -
red_emu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Considering that HA with flame staff is a burst, shock is a channel, frost staff should be a DoT. Taunting enemies has no place in Destro Staff playstyle in my opinion. Either that or please make it deal more damage. I get what OP is saying. My frosty Mag Warden using flame staff in PvP just breaks the immersion but what can I do? Use frost regardless? I might as well turn off the monitor and try to PvP.PC - EU:
Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
Falathren - AD StamSorc
Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
Your-Ex - AD MagBlade1 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Vanthras79 wrote: »I think frost damage should drain stamina. Perhaps lightning damage should sap magicka too.
Great idea!PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭I use it all the time for what it was meant for....an expansion to my tanking toolkit, its unfortunate they gave the warden ice-based abilities after making the ice staff a tanking weapon...leaving them no weapon to effectively utilize those buffs. If you ask me, warden doesn't scream ice anyway, it screams druid...but adding some type of nature magic was likely way too hard for them.0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭lordrichter wrote: »I love the ice staff. What I don't like is that it is a taunt, so I have to have something to swap in when I don't want to taunt.
What is so difficult about NOT spending skill points in that passive? the damage shield it gives is virtually worthless, so dont put a skill point there and it wont taunt.3 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭lordrichter wrote: »I love the ice staff. What I don't like is that it is a taunt, so I have to have something to swap in when I don't want to taunt.
What is so difficult about NOT spending skill points in that passive? the damage shield it gives is virtually worthless, so dont put a skill point there and it wont taunt.
It's difficult because a lot of players use double destro. Gimping a build to use a frost staff is unappealing to some players.3 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭lordrichter wrote: »I love the ice staff. What I don't like is that it is a taunt, so I have to have something to swap in when I don't want to taunt.
What is so difficult about NOT spending skill points in that passive? the damage shield it gives is virtually worthless, so dont put a skill point there and it wont taunt.
It's difficult because a lot of players use double destro. Gimping a build to use a frost staff is unappealing to some players.
Using a frost staff IS gimping a build...its a CC staff, thats what it excels at, as it was meant to. If you prefer a lightning staff, or a flame staff for their individual areas of usefulness, use them, if you want CC, use a frost staff and go dual wield on your other bar.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I use Ice Staff as a CC on my Magden in PVP. And the Ice Wall of Elements is useful in keep defense for a mag user.0 -
GimpyPorcupine✭✭✭✭✭Yes, when tanking with a mag sorc.8-hr/day casual on Xbox NA. 20 Characters, all DC, all Level 50. +2900CP0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Ice Mage for PvP.
Winterborn is actually pretty cool in BGs
Clever Alchemist + Winterborn + vMSA Ice Staff (or vAS)Edited by Tryxus on March 19, 2018 8:05PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't. Not in any serious manner. Despite having a perfect asylum ice staff and it possibly working for a particular mag warden build I had in mind, it's still not worth it. Just doesn't do the damage other staves do, so I just tell myself I'm doing elemental damage with my warden instead of just ice only and focus on all three elements, ice abilities, fire front, lightning back. And I have some ice staves for tanking, but mostly just weird gimmicky builds. Nothing calls for an ice staff in a serious manner in any of my 15 characters unfortunately.
I'd love to make use of it more on my DD Warden, but ZoS has made the staff terrible.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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