I would love to have 12vs12vs12 (or maybe even 16 or 20 players per team) battlegrounds in much larger areas than the usual battlegrounds. Like a miniature Cyrodiil but with different battleground incentives and maybe one keep in the middle. So you can either conquer the castle or capture relics/ressources to win.

Nope! We do need Cyrodiil's lag and servers fixed so that everyone can reliably PVP.

I’m saying “no”, but only because you’re just going to end up with more of the same. I would actually recommend more classic setups like 10v10, 20v20, and 2v2 arenas. I’d also suggest more classic game modes with those like capture the flag and king of the hill.

Cyrodiil needs a refresh, yes. I love this game's PVP but the boredom with the same old, same old is pervasive, and it's making things less fun and more unnecessarily antagonistic for everybody imo.

People have given ZOS tons of suggestions for this, from simply integrating IC into the campaigns to adding new objectives and on and on. I hope they're listening.

The new dungeons are great, CWC is beautiful and interesting, please may Cyrodiil have a turn?

srfrogg23 wrote: »

I’m saying “no”, but only because you’re just going to end up with more of the same. I would actually recommend more classic setups like 10v10, 20v20, and 2v2 arenas. I’d also suggest more classic game modes with those like capture the flag and king of the hill.

That's my thinking too. A new large-scale PvP area would basically be Cyrodiil with a different landscape and different names for basically the same goals and therefore the same type of gameplay.

I think it would be better if they added new content to cyrodiil, although I'm not sure what exactly. Maybe something like new, more powerful siege weapons that can be captured to give your side new abilities? Or Factions that can be recruited to help. Remember how in Oblivion you could steal a goblin tribe's staff and then they'd do anything to get it back? Maybe something like that - a way to draw NPCs to attack your enemies.

I'd be interested to hear what @Shadowasrial has in mind, specifically, not just 'more content'.

Jarryzzt wrote: »

.........................adopt EVE's system!!!!!

Which is - anyone can be killed anywhere at any time. Except that if you attack someone in a "high security" area the local AI "security" (buffed to godlike stats) will, after a specified number of seconds, show up and kill you.

So yes, PVP everywhere but the town guards will chase you around if you start slaughtering people at the crafting station.

Oh, and throw in EVE's mechanic where when someone kills you, they can loot, say, random 25% of your gear. [In EVE the rest is destroyed outright, but that would probably be a bit too punishing in an ESO context.]

Yes. I would support this. And I'm not even being sarcastic. More gleeful like, in fact, not the least because a month of that system and people like the OP will be begging to go back to the good old days of bland old Cyrodil.

This would resolve server load immediately as everyone quits the game.

Unlock classes and start new hardcore server and call it: Not for Milk-drinkers.

I'm fine with Cyro how it is...just need more servers. When playing on the weekends(when I have the most time to), I often can't even get into Cyro for hours due to the crazy high queue.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Jarryzzt wrote: »

.........................adopt EVE's system!!!!!

Which is - anyone can be killed anywhere at any time. Except that if you attack someone in a "high security" area the local AI "security" (buffed to godlike stats) will, after a specified number of seconds, show up and kill you.

So yes, PVP everywhere but the town guards will chase you around if you start slaughtering people at the crafting station.

Oh, and throw in EVE's mechanic where when someone kills you, they can loot, say, random 25% of your gear. [In EVE the rest is destroyed outright, but that would probably be a bit too punishing in an ESO context.]

Yes. I would support this. And I'm not even being sarcastic. More gleeful like, in fact, not the least because a month of that system and people like the OP will be begging to go back to the good old days of bland old Cyrodil.

This would resolve server load immediately as everyone quits the game.

Quite possibly.

Ultima Online had that system at first - anyone could attack anyone, anywhere but if you fought in town guards would attack you. It was one of the first true MMOs and they naively thought people wouldn't attack each other because it wouldn't be very nice. It mostly came down to groups of gankers waiting outside dungeons to kill people and steal their loot to save the trouble of doing the dungeon themselves.

After a while they changed it so people had a choice between that version of the open-world or one where you couldn't attack other players. Almost immediately the PvP version became a ghost town - everyone who didn't want to be attacked switched to the safe version and apparently everyone else didn't actually want combat - they wanted to gank PvEers and steal their stuff so without easy targets there was absolutely no appeal in staying in that map, so they switched too. I started just before they added that option and I was repeatedly told to never, ever go to the PvP version because you'd be killed on sight, but I got curious and tried it and it actually took me ages to find other players.

(The one advantage, later on, was that it became a good place to find some rare crafting materials that spawned randomly in the open world. On the 'safe' map they'd be taken almost instantly but relatively few people thought to check the PvP map, I think most people eventually forgot it even existed, so you were more likely to find rare materials there.)

Of course it does seem to work in EVE, but so do a lot of things that have failed spectacularly in other MMOs. EVE is it's own thing and in general people who really enjoy it don't like other MMOs and people who like others can't stand EVE.

I say instead of the convulted system they have now..just let people come and go from cyrodil

Pink_Violinz wrote: »

I think Cyro needs a new mechanic, before we add in another giant area that will just get diluted. Add something like proper bridge fights, an actual spy system, or even outing traitors and making them killable (ya know, the people who are obviously on the other side but just happen to be your color at the moment).

My favorite idea will still be the bridge fights. Make them destroyable, or at least capturable to spice up what is normally just a game of tug-of-war. Those fights generally just end with people respawning over and over, until one side gives up and goes around to the second bridge.

I actually like the idea of destroying bridges. But I feel people would exploit the crap out of them. I also feel the interior wall gates should open and close just like the exterior wall gates

No. Fix what's broken first.

Jarryzzt wrote: »

.........................adopt EVE's system!!!!!

Which is - anyone can be killed anywhere at any time. Except that if you attack someone in a "high security" area the local AI "security" (buffed to godlike stats) will, after a specified number of seconds, show up and kill you.

So yes, PVP everywhere but the town guards will chase you around if you start slaughtering people at the crafting station.

Oh, and throw in EVE's mechanic where when someone kills you, they can loot, say, random 25% of your gear. [In EVE the rest is destroyed outright, but that would probably be a bit too punishing in an ESO context.]

Yes. I would support this. And I'm not even being sarcastic. More gleeful like, in fact, not the least because a month of that system and people like the OP will be begging to go back to the good old days of bland old Cyrodil.

Absolutely NOT.

I am not paying to be someone's content.