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ZEN. please tell me That the Shadow Rider Senche Mount will be on sale one day!!!

  • LittlePinkDot
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    Carbonised wrote: »
    Jimmy wrote: »
    I wanted it too. Spent 42,000 crowns trying to get it.... but no luck.

    Now I have 1,500 Gems... :(

    And this is exactly why they made this non-buyable. Their marketing scheme is working perfectly. You only have yourselves to blame.

    And its why theyre going to focus on crown crates instead of fixing lag or cyrodiil
  • Nihility42
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    MajBludd wrote: »
    I would have bought it myself. I'm sure it would have been 5k crowns, or more.
    Seems you could make a decent amount of money off of a direct sale. For example, I, and I'm sure plenty more, won't buy 1 crate trying to get that mount. But I'd spend crowns on the mount if in crown store.

    The thing is you might not buy one crate to get it, but some people will buy 500. You're not the target here, they don't really care what you would or wouldn't buy. They can make thousands more off of whales than they ever could with direct sales.
  • LMar
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    The game isn't the crates... if you focus on crates you lose the game..
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  • Nemesis7884
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    jssriot wrote: »
    The artwork for the Shadow Rider Senche looks cool, but I haven't seen one in-game yet. Even if it's awesome I don't think it's worth playing ZOS' cash-grab.

    I got the Adamant Dwarven Horse from some free crates and I resent that I can't use it without people asking me how they could get it themselves. These rare, crate-only mounts are BS this way. Most people aren't going to get as lucky as me, so they'd have to buy a lot of crates and probably still not get one of the rare mounts, and anyone who has one is basically advertising for the crown crates whenever they use it.

    I could finger wag and shame people for wanting these rare mounts, but I don't think it's bad for people to want options to enjoy the game as they like. It's ZOS' fault for making it such am exploitive cash-grab to get some of these things and for making people impulsively throw away money trying to get them. This is exactly what they want.

    you can preview the mount in game...it looks awesome imo and i never liked one of the previous radiant apex
  • Nihility42
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    josiahva wrote: »
    I am really not sure why people buy ANY crown crates. Are the 20 mounts and 100 pets you already have not enough? Its baffling, pets following you in-game is pretty lame(The only place I use my pets is housing) and one mount is much like another. I can see the appeal of costumes...after all, you are looking at your toon the entire time you are playing...but as for the rest of the cosmetics...why would you spend real money on them when that money could instead buy you DLC or actual useful things like character slots?

    People just like different things. I personally wouldn't have the slightest use for DLC or character slots. I subscribe to ESO+ and I only have two characters I ever play with. I do enjoy making my characters look spiffy though, so I'm much more interested in mounts and the like.
  • CloneTrooper699
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    It's weird for me I'd never spend $50 to get a mount I like but if you put it in a crown crate I'd happily spend $100 for a chance at a mount I like and a bunch of other random junk I don't need. My brain is so broken.
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  • ThinkerOfThings
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    I get why they do it, but just because you can doesnt mean that you should. This seems like a tactic a lesser company, like Trion or EA, would do.
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Sav72 wrote: »
    Bummer, Log in today excited to buy the Shadow Rider Mount....only to find out its a rare drop. :(

    Saved all those crown gems for nothing....

    It will probably be close to this amount

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  • Asgari
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    Update:

    2k+ gems now and still no senche .. i unluckily got the wolf.
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  • beetleklee
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    Asgari wrote: »
    Update:

    2k+ gems now and still no senche .. i unluckily got the wolf.

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  • eso_lags
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    I saw someone in rawl who said he opened 15 crates and got it and didn't even know radiant mounts were a thing

    Oddly enough the vast majority of players who i find with radiant mounts are lower cps or players who got it in the free crates, etc.. Rarely do i come across someone who tells me the kept buying crates til they got a radiant reward. Actually i dont think i ever have tbh..

    That mount is so cool. Hell even the storm horse one is. Like above any other mounts ive ever seen in game. Sadly Even though i have spent plenty of money on each crown crate season, not particularly looking for anything just to get some of the cool stuff, i will most likely never see an radiant apex reward. Ive probably opened roughly 40+ crates each season and only once did i even get an apex mount, the storm atro horse but i really wanted the senche :cry: . Every other time i had to buy one mount from each season (except those nasty ones last season). Scratch that, twice counting this season, i got the wolf but im already 20 crates in hunting for a radiant :expressionless: .

    Surprisingly on the day i started my PC account, since im from xbox, i bought a 4 crate pack. Got the storm atro senche on the 2nd crate. Never bought them on PC again. Now if i was to throw my tin foil hat on i might say that it seems like they dont give very many good drops to players who they know will spend decent money on the game. Like maybe they know some of us are willing to keep buying them til we get a mount, or maybe we are a poor *** hunting a radiant apex mount :no_mouth: ... But could they know that? Maybe. But could they, no, would they got through the trouble to do it? Eh probably not. But conspiracy theory's are fun.
    Edited by eso_lags on March 17, 2018 12:47AM
  • Vahrokh
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Sav72 wrote: »
    Look, ESO is a business...they need to make money to survive just like the rest of us.

    Point is, rare mounts in crates are hot items, I am just hoping in a few months or some time this year, They add it to the Crown store.



    We arent asking them to hand over the mount for free. We want to buy it instead of gambling.

    If they put it on sale, would you pay $300 for a stupid clump of nice looking pixels? Because the guy above spent $294 and still did not get it.

    Making it random, pushes people into gambling and they have to statistically pay HUGE amounts that a "rational purchase" would never allow.
  • monktoasty
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    You can buy it..with 10k to 500k dollars you may get it
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    monktoasty wrote: »
    You can buy it..with 10k to 500k dollars you may get it

    Yeah, no thanks >:)
  • FireCowCommando
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    Carbonised wrote: »
    Jimmy wrote: »
    I wanted it too. Spent 42,000 crowns trying to get it.... but no luck.

    Now I have 1,500 Gems... :(

    And this is exactly why they made this non-buyable. Their marketing scheme is working perfectly. You only have yourselves to blame.

    But the way it works now gives you such a sense of pride and accomplishment when you actually get it! Plus all the additional revenue generated by loot boxes is really paying off in server/game performance gains.
  • Kiyakotari
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    I would actually be in favor of temporary gem sales, one weekend each month, where the radiant apex would be for sale at a rather high gem price, for example 1200 gems. (My reasoning behind this price tag is that if I understood well, the Resplendant Sweetroll can be exchanged for 400 gems, thus the radiant apex could be valued 3 times this amount. Which is, of course, exorbitantly high.) This would still be predatory as heck, but it would at least allow ZOS to respect their initial promise that no item would be strictly RNG-locked, which they renounced to. (May Malacath scathe them for breaking their oath. )

    At this point, do any of us actually expect ZOS to keep their promises?

  • eso_lags
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    Kiyakotari wrote: »
    I would actually be in favor of temporary gem sales, one weekend each month, where the radiant apex would be for sale at a rather high gem price, for example 1200 gems. (My reasoning behind this price tag is that if I understood well, the Resplendant Sweetroll can be exchanged for 400 gems, thus the radiant apex could be valued 3 times this amount. Which is, of course, exorbitantly high.) This would still be predatory as heck, but it would at least allow ZOS to respect their initial promise that no item would be strictly RNG-locked, which they renounced to. (May Malacath scathe them for breaking their oath. )

    At this point, do any of us actually expect ZOS to keep their promises?

    lol exactly. Heres how the team over at zenimax online studios looks at things. Either deal with whatever we do or quit. Thats your 2 options. And ya many mmos are like this, but not to the extent that zos does.. Also many mmos die. Archeage was like this and archeage is on deaths doorstep. And screw the BS rng mounts, thats one of the smaller issues. Just a pattern of behavior tbh.
  • Nighn_9
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    I would really hope not. I spent almost $600 to get the Shadow Atronach Senche from last crates. I don't want that mount to ever be available again.
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  • Nemesis7884
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    might be a good thing tough that you cant buy it..otherwise you would see them EVERYWHERE and fps would probably tank due to all the effects
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    beetleklee wrote: »
    Asgari wrote: »
    Update:

    2k+ gems now and still no senche .. i unluckily got the wolf.

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    i did stop after 100'000 crowns, 7000 crown gems and 300 chests

    maybe i overdid it a little bit...well i need to slim down anyway so i just wont eat for the rest of the month
  • Malamar1229
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    359 crown crates later I have all the 3 rare mounts and about 4200 crown gems. Wasn't worth that grind
  • Nemesis7884
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    359 crown crates later I have all the 3 rare mounts and about 4200 crown gems. Wasn't worth that grind

    you got all 3 with 360...wow lucky you
  • teiselaise
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    I love how many posts in this discussion refers to "that plague husk guy", in general I feel a little bad for that person being nicknamed plague husk guy, I have never seen one but I think a plague husk is a rather disgusting thing.
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  • Delpi
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    Plus all the additional revenue generated by loot boxes is really paying off in server/game performance gains.

    Are you sure about that?
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Sav72 wrote: »
    Look, ESO is a business...they need to make money to survive just like the rest of us.

    Point is, rare mounts in crates are hot items, I am just hoping in a few months or some time this year, They add it to the Crown store.



    ESO is a business. But they dont need to make 42000 Crowns off of 1 individual player to do so. This is exactly what a lot of the gaming community has been railing against for months now. Its exploitative mechanics that prey on players addictions. It most definitely crosses that line into gambling.
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  • monktoasty
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    It also only rewards the rich.

    .01% chance is hideous and evil.

  • Nyladreas
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    Carbonised wrote: »
    Jimmy wrote: »
    I wanted it too. Spent 42,000 crowns trying to get it.... but no luck.

    Now I have 1,500 Gems... :(

    And this is exactly why they made this non-buyable. Their marketing scheme is working perfectly. You only have yourselves to blame.

    This is exactly why indeed. I keep saying that every f-in time. If only people held themselves back from this nonsense.
  • Darkstorne
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    359 crown crates later I have all the 3 rare mounts and about 4200 crown gems. Wasn't worth that grind

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  • Shadowmaster
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    359 crown crates later I have all the 3 rare mounts and about 4200 crown gems. Wasn't worth that grind

    you got all 3 with 360...wow lucky you

    24x 15x crown crate box @ ~$35.99 = ~$850 dollars. For that much money you could buy roughly 12 brand new video games.

    All you are doing is skewing their analytics and making them trend upward and showing ARPDAU increasing. From a purely analytics standpoint, it would make sense to logically give us more crown crates with rarer rewards now.

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  • Kilandros
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    359 crown crates later I have all the 3 rare mounts and about 4200 crown gems. Wasn't worth that grind

    you got all 3 with 360...wow lucky you

    24x 15x crown crate box @ ~$35.99 = ~$850 dollars. For that much money you could buy roughly 12 brand new video games.

    All you are doing is skewing their analytics and making them trend upward and showing ARPDAU increasing. From a purely analytics standpoint, it would make sense to logically give us more crown crates with rarer rewards now.

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    All he's doing his spending his money the way he wants. I truly don't understand why you think you're entitled to pass judgment on how someone spends his money.
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