I'm running bsw and esyes of mara destroy resto found a build and the dmg is great in 3 years ive neer thought a destroy/resto magdk would work in pvp its a harder build than S&B/resto or S&B/detso but its a lot of fun

Have not tried a Silks+Skoria combo, but I imagine due to the health bonuses you would be adding more survivability than should be necessary at the cost of damage potential. But, if you like the extra health, staying alive to keep doing dps is obviously better than laying dead not doing dps.
I made a pve build using 5 elf Bane and 2 Zaan, with inferno mael back bar and 5 bsw on the front bar with double daggers (haven’t been able to test swords but I think the increased crit is better for proccing Zaan). Have completed both challenger achieves for the new dungeons with this build, so I figure it’s alright.
Masel also recently updated the build in this thread, which looks to be performing well and adds more flexibility for going ranged: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-cwc-ready/p9

Way of Fire is quite interesting on a dunmer, even better than Red Mountain.

Xvorg wrote: »

Way of Fire is quite interesting on a dunmer, even better than Red Mountain.

On my previously mentioned StamDK I would swap the Sunderflame for Way of the Fire and 2 pieces Red Mountain to put all Impen.

PvP obviously, but it was/is FUN!

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

If you want a good non meta PvE then go for Skoria, Red Mountain and Sunderflame while running as a Dunmer. The extra flame damage from Dunmer makes all those sets extra tasty to use. And for good measure be a Vamp stage 4. And the proc on Red Mountain is just ridiculous

I do that on my StamDK (See previous post)

My apologies, i missed that one.

All good!

Well with Zaan, there’s now quite easily the best monster Helm a mDK could wear. Toss flame breath at it, and it’ll hit for just disgusting levels of damage.

As for builds:


The Smelly Build ™

Dunmer (good regen, amazing flame damage, great fire resist)

(definite second choice. At the range you’ll be fighting, you need to be somewhat tangier than other Magicka classes. Argonian nice health and magic boost, and the insane potion boost which I couldn’t imagine playing my tank or healer without it.

Breton/Altmer (both decent, but neither very exceptional or noteworthy).


Gear:

1 piece Kena
BSW x 5
Moondancer x 5
(1 destro front / 1 resto back).
*can do BSW inferno and Moondancer resto back bar.*


Why resto? Because magDK’s are right in the thick of things, and don’t have a lot of innate Magicka regen abilities like say dark conversion for sources or siphoning attacks for MagBlades.

Heavy attacking with the resto will rerun more resources than any other type of staff. Plus, you can run your more support skills here (Dragon Blood, chocking Talons, etc.)

If you can’t get Moondancer, I’d say Master Architect could also be good. mDK is all about coming to terms with the fact that you’re basically a melee Magicka dps. Much like magplar’s, and MagBlades to a lesser extent. Can easily proc master architect with your Fire Dragon Leap.

Skills:

Front bar: BSW inferno w/ flame damage glyph

1. Flame lash. enemies still get set off balance. Only change was to “Boss” type mobs, which are actual bosses, and then enemies that are much stronger than normal adds and can’t be stunned. This is mostly trial mobs, but they CAN get set off balance, but not as often. You can still get a ton of resources back when they’re off balance.)
2. Burning Embers (amazing dot, solid healing)
3. Flame blockade (a staple, and gets destro staff perks)
4. Flames of Oblivion (spell crit, and a strong damage spell)
5. Flame Breath (strong DOT, makes all other fire attacks do 10% more damage - BIG group utility)
6. ULT - Destro Ult

Flex: Force Pulse (range), Igneous Shields (stronger shield than harness Magicka, but doesn’t give you resources. It does give you major mending for 3 seconds, and can be a lifesaver), Molten Whip for the non-RNG erosion that buffs your other ardent flame abilities). Can be nice learning how you’d like to sustain without the lash’s random proc option. Harness Magicka. Draw Essence for large trash fights.

Backbar: Moondancer Resto

1. Coagulated Blood
2. Eruption ( dry strong dot,
3. Burning Talons
4. Healing Ward (can help for this hefty up close and personal fights)
5. Molten Armaments (Major Sor and 40% more heavy damage. +plus heavy attacking with resto nets you crazy resources, or heavy fire staff does very strong single target damagE.
7. ULT - Dragon Fire Leap (if using master architect, Standard if you want the strongest damage, Molten Armor if you want a quasi-god mode for certain fights, can even run Lights Champion (resto staff ult) for cheap save, and gives major protection AND major force).

Resto bar is where you want to activate synergies to give you either mana regen or a spell damage boost (from Moondancer). Your active abilities on this bar should be quick, so drop and get back to front bar for those skills to take advantage of front bar increased damage.

Vampire stage 2 - 10% Mag/stam regen.

Witchmothers potent brew

Apprentice (group) or Lover (solo)

Would recommend either enchanting an infused piece with health, or even adding just a few points into health. You need more survivability with as close as you’ll be. Sor’s have hardened ward, MagBlades siphon Soul, magolar’s BoL or Ritual of Retribution. MagDK essentially has Igneous Shield (which scales with max health), or you can go Harness Magicka. Experiment and see which suits you more.

*Putting points into Bastion can go a very long way to surviving.

Anyhoo, thoughts!?

I am leaning towards Grothdar/Ilambris.

Domihaus any good?

Keep these EXCELLENT ideas coming!!!!!

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I am leaning towards Grothdar/Ilambris.

Domihaus any good?

Keep these EXCELLENT ideas coming!!!!!

Domihaus very strong. The one piece alone giving Magicka AND Stamina is incredible. Much like Grothdarr, shines in close in Mag fights. Someone probably has numbers though comparing Valkyn, Dom, Zaan, Llambris, and Grothdarr. I think moreso than a lot of Mag classes, MagDK benefits the most from a monster set. The strongest Mag monster sets are fire damage, and with the 10% boost from fire breath, Flame passives line, and if you’re a Dunmer, that fire damage is a blazing inferno.

Great thread, love reading all these ideas!