Dark Elf DK (Magick) current META builds?

  • JerzeeDevil
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    Ok,... would Silks of the Sun + Moondancer & Skoria be a winner?
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  • lucky_Sage
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    I'm running bsw and esyes of mara destroy resto found a build and the dmg is great in 3 years ive neer thought a destroy/resto magdk would work in pvp its a harder build than S&B/resto or S&B/detso but its a lot of fun
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Hey man... I heard you like proc sets. How 'bout proc sets that proc your proc sets?

    2 Valkyn Skoria, 5 Flame Blossom, 5 Caluurion Legacy

    I actually run this on one of my mDKs... but they're not uber powerful. Just fun to play on. Flame Blossom is easily avoidable and you only shine on the fire damage from Caluurion. But if you rely on your skill (not the procs) during PVP- the procs can act as a weak "execute" that the mDK lacks. ;)

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366277/flame-blossom-dissapointment-psa-dont-bother-farming-it

    is it still a disappointment though?

    Caluurion's sounds really interesting though!! Will give me a good reason to go through Fang Lair!

    Flame Blossom, alone, isn't really worth running. The proc from it is very, very slow. It's a poor man's "Shalks". However, if you pair it with Caluurion and Valkyn- you can have some fun. You could also try pairing it with a heavy armor build since it offers more penetration. Also, as a heavy armor build you'll probably be tanky- so the enemies will be up in your face (more likely to take the direct hit from Flame Blossom).
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  • jypcy
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    Have not tried a Silks+Skoria combo, but I imagine due to the health bonuses you would be adding more survivability than should be necessary at the cost of damage potential. But, if you like the extra health, staying alive to keep doing dps is obviously better than laying dead not doing dps.
    I made a pve build using 5 elf Bane and 2 Zaan, with inferno mael back bar and 5 bsw on the front bar with double daggers (haven’t been able to test swords but I think the increased crit is better for proccing Zaan). Have completed both challenger achieves for the new dungeons with this build, so I figure it’s alright.
    Masel also recently updated the build in this thread, which looks to be performing well and adds more flexibility for going ranged: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-cwc-ready/p9
  • Cybercore_Death
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    If you want a good non meta PvE then go for Skoria, Red Mountain and Sunderflame while running as a Dunmer. The extra flame damage from Dunmer makes all those sets extra tasty to use. And for good measure be a Vamp stage 4. And the proc on Red Mountain is just ridiculous
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  • Xvorg
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    Way of Fire is quite interesting on a dunmer, even better than Red Mountain.
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  • JerzeeDevil
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    If you want a good non meta PvE then go for Skoria, Red Mountain and Sunderflame while running as a Dunmer. The extra flame damage from Dunmer makes all those sets extra tasty to use. And for good measure be a Vamp stage 4. And the proc on Red Mountain is just ridiculous

    I do that on my StamDK (See previous post) >:)
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  • JerzeeDevil
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Way of Fire is quite interesting on a dunmer, even better than Red Mountain.

    On my previously mentioned StamDK I would swap the Sunderflame for Way of the Fire and 2 pieces Red Mountain to put all Impen.

    PvP obviously, but it was/is FUN!
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  • Cybercore_Death
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    If you want a good non meta PvE then go for Skoria, Red Mountain and Sunderflame while running as a Dunmer. The extra flame damage from Dunmer makes all those sets extra tasty to use. And for good measure be a Vamp stage 4. And the proc on Red Mountain is just ridiculous

    I do that on my StamDK (See previous post) >:)

    My apologies, i missed that one.
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  • JerzeeDevil
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    If you want a good non meta PvE then go for Skoria, Red Mountain and Sunderflame while running as a Dunmer. The extra flame damage from Dunmer makes all those sets extra tasty to use. And for good measure be a Vamp stage 4. And the proc on Red Mountain is just ridiculous

    I do that on my StamDK (See previous post) >:)

    My apologies, i missed that one.

    All good!
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  • Xvorg
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Way of Fire is quite interesting on a dunmer, even better than Red Mountain.

    On my previously mentioned StamDK I would swap the Sunderflame for Way of the Fire and 2 pieces Red Mountain to put all Impen.

    PvP obviously, but it was/is FUN!

    I have a magblade that uses WoF. The proc adds around 3K dmg on weaves. Combined with a flame staff and an oblivion glyph it's around 5K dmg on proc.

    I also had a stamblade that used old red mountain and WoF...It was overkill

    edit: of course on PvP. On PVE it's a lot more dmg
    Edited by Xvorg on March 9, 2018 6:55PM
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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    Well with Zaan, there’s now quite easily the best monster Helm a mDK could wear. Toss flame breath at it, and it’ll hit for just disgusting levels of damage.

    As for builds:


    The Smelly Build ™

    Dunmer (good regen, amazing flame damage, great fire resist)

    (definite second choice. At the range you’ll be fighting, you need to be somewhat tangier than other Magicka classes. Argonian nice health and magic boost, and the insane potion boost which I couldn’t imagine playing my tank or healer without it.

    Breton/Altmer (both decent, but neither very exceptional or noteworthy).


    Gear:

    1 piece Kena
    BSW x 5
    Moondancer x 5
    (1 destro front / 1 resto back).
    *can do BSW inferno and Moondancer resto back bar.*


    Why resto? Because magDK’s are right in the thick of things, and don’t have a lot of innate Magicka regen abilities like say dark conversion for sources or siphoning attacks for MagBlades.

    Heavy attacking with the resto will rerun more resources than any other type of staff. Plus, you can run your more support skills here (Dragon Blood, chocking Talons, etc.)

    If you can’t get Moondancer, I’d say Master Architect could also be good. mDK is all about coming to terms with the fact that you’re basically a melee Magicka dps. Much like magplar’s, and MagBlades to a lesser extent. Can easily proc master architect with your Fire Dragon Leap.

    Skills:

    Front bar: BSW inferno w/ flame damage glyph

    1. Flame lash. enemies still get set off balance. Only change was to “Boss” type mobs, which are actual bosses, and then enemies that are much stronger than normal adds and can’t be stunned. This is mostly trial mobs, but they CAN get set off balance, but not as often. You can still get a ton of resources back when they’re off balance.)
    2. Burning Embers (amazing dot, solid healing)
    3. Flame blockade (a staple, and gets destro staff perks)
    4. Flames of Oblivion (spell crit, and a strong damage spell)
    5. Flame Breath (strong DOT, makes all other fire attacks do 10% more damage - BIG group utility)
    6. ULT - Destro Ult

    Flex: Force Pulse (range), Igneous Shields (stronger shield than harness Magicka, but doesn’t give you resources. It does give you major mending for 3 seconds, and can be a lifesaver), Molten Whip for the non-RNG erosion that buffs your other ardent flame abilities). Can be nice learning how you’d like to sustain without the lash’s random proc option. Harness Magicka. Draw Essence for large trash fights.

    Backbar: Moondancer Resto

    1. Coagulated Blood
    2. Eruption ( dry strong dot,
    3. Burning Talons
    4. Healing Ward (can help for this hefty up close and personal fights)
    5. Molten Armaments (Major Sor and 40% more heavy damage. +plus heavy attacking with resto nets you crazy resources, or heavy fire staff does very strong single target damagE.
    7. ULT - Dragon Fire Leap (if using master architect, Standard if you want the strongest damage, Molten Armor if you want a quasi-god mode for certain fights, can even run Lights Champion (resto staff ult) for cheap save, and gives major protection AND major force).

    Resto bar is where you want to activate synergies to give you either mana regen or a spell damage boost (from Moondancer). Your active abilities on this bar should be quick, so drop and get back to front bar for those skills to take advantage of front bar increased damage.

    Vampire stage 2 - 10% Mag/stam regen.

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    Apprentice (group) or Lover (solo)

    Would recommend either enchanting an infused piece with health, or even adding just a few points into health. You need more survivability with as close as you’ll be. Sor’s have hardened ward, MagBlades siphon Soul, magolar’s BoL or Ritual of Retribution. MagDK essentially has Igneous Shield (which scales with max health), or you can go Harness Magicka. Experiment and see which suits you more.

    *Putting points into Bastion can go a very long way to surviving.

    Anyhoo, thoughts!?



    Edited by SmellyUnlimited on March 10, 2018 11:02AM
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    For those who are trying to run Zaan


    I have messed around with it, and sorry to say. It's not that great.


    The tooltip looks great an all. But the conditions for light attack to proc it don't always pan out how you want. Often you'll be trying to do a rotation, need the proc, and waste time LA'ing for the proc to occur.

    Honestly the damage proc from Skoria and Grothdar are still superior from a PvP perspective. Skoria procs automatically for you from your regular rotation no need to waste time LA'ing when you're on the offensive, and grothdar now has NO AOE cap. And is so much more reliable damage while your on the offensive.


    To be Frank, zaan is useful only in a duel setting, or for DPS testing.

    Other than that, the damage condition procs and cooldown limit its potential usefulness.


    I was able to get more kills with skoria/grothdar in PvP than I was even able to get zaan to proc. And when I did get it to proc, people easily left my range. Dk's can't do much about that unless you have a Ult readily available or you use a stamina gap closer.
  • JerzeeDevil
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    I am leaning towards Grothdar/Ilambris.

    Domihaus any good?

    Keep these EXCELLENT ideas coming!!!!!
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  • Savos_Saren
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    I am leaning towards Grothdar/Ilambris.

    Domihaus any good?

    Keep these EXCELLENT ideas coming!!!!!

    I actually tested Domihaus vs Slimecraw for maximum tooltip damage. Domihaus buffs your abilities just slightly higher than Slimecraw. Technically, it does slightly more DPS, too- since it damages enemies on the outskirts of the fire/molten earth ring. Personally, I prefer the extra magicka and stamina, too.

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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    I am leaning towards Grothdar/Ilambris.

    Domihaus any good?

    Keep these EXCELLENT ideas coming!!!!!

    Domihaus very strong. The one piece alone giving Magicka AND Stamina is incredible. Much like Grothdarr, shines in close in Mag fights. Someone probably has numbers though comparing Valkyn, Dom, Zaan, Llambris, and Grothdarr. I think moreso than a lot of Mag classes, MagDK benefits the most from a monster set. The strongest Mag monster sets are fire damage, and with the 10% boost from fire breath, Flame passives line, and if you’re a Dunmer, that fire damage is a blazing inferno.
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  • JerzeeDevil
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    Definitely Dunmer!
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  • Seraphayel
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    Great thread, love reading all these ideas!
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  • JerzeeDevil
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Great thread, love reading all these ideas!

    I agree 100%!

    More information, please everyone! B)
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