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Should there be a CP catch up mechanic? Should we be able to buy them?
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Mz_Jo✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »I was just LOL at the thread title, then saw 20 pages!!!
I HAVE NO idea who is being ridiculous about what
So I offer this option if you really don't like everything you have today
WE GO BACK TO DAY 1
1 million XP per level
NO MATTER WHAT LEVEL
NO MORE XP POTS
SO, we won't even have to worry about debating CP or NOT
Because you will NEVER CATCH UP THEN!!!
So, looking like you have it pretty good NOW THEN!!
YOUR Never going to get to buy XP CP not in this game.
Thanks for your time
LOL, that made me think of TERA, each level is like 1M+ exp.
LOL
Seriously, omg it used to take forever!!!
When I had made a different account, I was like WTH, this is easy as hell now!!
Trust me, NO SYMPATHY FROM ANYBODY!!
IT'S VERY EASY NOWADAYS!!!
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Other ideas:- Give CP allotments with each DLC
- Give CP allotments with each Chapter.
- Allow passive CP generation (5 per day)
- Make the XP per CP point a flat amount and lower the amount
- Allow XP scrolls to be "enlightenment scrolls".
heres another idea: go out and kill stuff and get cp. ooh, new age ideas!4 -
DirkRavenclaw✭✭✭✭No way. There is already a catchup for youre follow Toons, grind to Lvl50 and you reach youre mains cp lvl. I play now since 13 Months ESO and im on cp622 right now, i enjoy every single Day. I learn daily more about my toon, where is a he strong, where i need to rweak. Well, that said, i just lvl a mag DK towards cp and let me 2 weeks of daily playing multiple hours time before getting him to 50, my cp, lol. I just find we need this time or sure, buy youre max lvl cp, all will expect that you, beeing max lvl, know all the mechaniks in vet dungeons and <trials for example, tell me how you wanna learn this if you never lost it because you where low CP
Im already tottaly angry because of this bloody Master research scrolls, what the Heck? Im nearly a Naster Crafter, people, when giving orders,expect that i know my way around, If i just paid a ridicillious amóunt in Crowns to come on my Master Crafter Lvl, i wouldnt know my way around. Just enjoy playing the game. This is a mmo. I think you have the time to catch up, it doesnt end this year Council Member of AtWritsEnd, Member of LoneWolfeHelp, Donor of GhostSeaTradingCO., Factor of EastEmpireTradingCO.,HonourGuard of ´DominionImperialGuard(DIG/PVP)
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✭✭✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »I was just LOL at the thread title, then saw 20 pages!!!
I HAVE NO idea who is being ridiculous about what
So I offer this option if you really don't like everything you have today
WE GO BACK TO DAY 1
1 million XP per level
NO MATTER WHAT LEVEL
NO MORE XP POTS
SO, we won't even have to worry about debating CP or NOT
Because you will NEVER CATCH UP THEN!!!
So, looking like you have it pretty good NOW THEN!!
YOUR Never going to get to buy XP CP not in this game.
Thanks for your time
LOL, that made me think of TERA, each level is like 1M+ exp.
Vet ranks were 1m XP per. So players who actually got to V16 had accrued 16 million XP to get there. Technically, it wasn't even XP originally, there was an entirely separate experience progression for Vet, meaning you couldn't earn it from any non-vet content. It was kinda miserable.0 -
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✭I was just LOL at the thread title, then saw 20 pages!!!
I HAVE NO idea who is being ridiculous about what
So I offer this option if you really don't like everything you have today
WE GO BACK TO DAY 1
1 million XP per level
NO MATTER WHAT LEVEL
NO MORE XP POTS
SO, we won't even have to worry about debating CP or NOT
Because you will NEVER CATCH UP THEN!!!
So, looking like you have it pretty good NOW THEN!!
YOUR Never going to get to buy XP CP not in this game.
Thanks for your time
So long as we revert the IC back to the old Tel Var losses and get rid of the stupid District mechanic. Then, my dear, you have a deal.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »Buy CP? Why not?
Zenimax have already ruined what should have been a great game, another nail in the coffin will just bring the end a little closer.
Then they can let Bethesda get on with developing Elder Scrolls Six.
Which is why, from sources we can see, number of players is increasing and has been overall for the past couple years. Also why you and I are still here.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »Buy CP? Why not?
Zenimax have already ruined what should have been a great game, another nail in the coffin will just bring the end a little closer.
Then they can let Bethesda get on with developing Elder Scrolls Six.
Elder Scrolls Online has nothing to do with Bethesda developing ESVI, two separate studios. And besides, Bethesda won't release ESVI until they release two major, big games first.
Because Todd Howard isn't already sick to death of that question.
We've already been told, BGS has at least two other full game releases slated before they loop back to Tamriel. Given the rate they release games at, it's probably going to be at least another 5 years before we even hear an announcement on TES6.0 -
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✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »And, your point is?
It's worth remembering that, because you aren't back credited, if you grind for a considerable time, then, stop, the level cap goes up, that doesn't mean you're instantly bumped up to where you would be. So you would end up in a situation where you'd have to earn more XP overall from start to cap, than "intended."
Also worth noting that there are some potential glitches in the overall math, meaning, because of rounding, it's possible you might see the XP targets shuffle. But, realistically, we're talking about a threshold of less than a daily random. If you really want, I can dig out a spreadsheet and run the values, but I don't have that kind of time at the moment.
My point is it requires more XP to go from zero to cap than it ever has in the history of the game.
Nope.
Current XP to go from 0 to 720 = 173,726,215
XP to go from 0 to 720 when CP was first introduced = 288,000,000 (720 x 400,000)
Also keep in mind that at that time, the "cap" was 3600 CP.
The argument is when the cap is raised the required amount of XP is greater. You obviously couldn't spend 720 point pre Dragon Bones.
The statement as follows are what the argument is about.
More XP is required to go from zero to cap than ever before.
More XP is required to go from zero to cap than when the cap was 690.
More XP is required to go from zero to cap than when the cap was 500.
We're disputing the amount required to go to max spendable points. You're modifying the argument to make your self right.
100% WRONG bucko, the amount of cp you could earn has never ever been changed. The hard cap (no spendable, earnable) has always been 3600cp, and the exp curve is not linear. Every time the useable amount of cp increases, the more the exp curve is adjusted and made steeper post-usable cap.
I mean clearly you have no concept of the immense backloading that happens in this game to make it easier for new players to earn cp.DieAlteHexe wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »This is how P2W starts: casuals who can't be content with being casual and want to buy their way to hardcore benefits.
Odd. The ones I've known who indulge in this sort of thing are definitely NOT the casuals.They're the sort that don't want to deal with all the interim stuff and get straight to the end-game "good stuff".
They should all wear jester costume because that's what they are.
Which? The casuals or the end-gamers?
Actually, neither because both are perfectly valid playstyles and this nonsense of sneering at one and other really is getting old.
Those who want everything now, doesn't matter if casual or hardcore.
I would just like a quicker way to attain CP beyond the current system.
No, what you want is to have max cp handed to you while you do literally nothing. You asked for 5 cp a day for doing jack diddly squat. You want to drop a few hundred dollars and get that "vet ready toon" you crave and think you'll get, as if any good player won't realize you have no clue how to play the game one fight into a dungeon.
The current system is fine. It works for casual and dedicated players with Enlightenment. There's exp pots that, oh the horror, require active participation in the game to be most effective, and that there seems to be your real issue. That you have to play the *** game to earn cp.5 -
MerlinPendragon✭✭✭✭Yes, I would also like a way to buy levels, CP, whatever. Pay to win is fine by me._____________________________________
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jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
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✭I want to thank all of you for your continued suggestions and ideas in this discussion. Many of you have provided some great ideas.0 -
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✭MerlinPendragon wrote: »Yes, I would also like a way to buy levels, CP, whatever. Pay to win is fine by me.
Thanks for chiming in with your response and opinion. I also agree with you.0 -
crjs1✭✭✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
For me it’s not about wanting it ‘now’ I can only play a couple of hours max most days. Due to this it takes me an eternity to bridge the CP gap or level alts, especially as I don’t want to mindlessly grind my limited time away.
I would jump at chance to buy some CP or a pre levelled alt. Each to thier own, just give us the option!0 -
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✭✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
For me it’s not about wanting it ‘now’ I can only play a couple of hours max most days. Due to this it takes me an eternity to bridge the CP gap or level alts, especially as I don’t want to mindlessly grind my limited time away.
I would jump at chance to buy some CP or a pre levelled alt. Each to thier own, just give us the option!
??? A few hours a day will get you to cap and then some within a year, EASILY. You don't have to and never had to grind out cp to cap it out. Just play the game! Do quests, dungeons! Literally anything. I dedicated weeks to chest farming and decorating my house when Homestead came out and that hurt my ability to gain cp not even a little bit because even chest exp was giving me enough experience with Enlightment.
I wouldn't be so opposed to lvl50 alts so long as it required having an active lvl50 of the class you wanted the alt to be. But again, it's still no an "to each their own" option because this isn't a solo game.
People will buy their way to lvl50 max cp and then start bogging down groups because they have no idea how the game functions. That would be the norm, not the exception. New players would jump in, hit cap, get immediately blasted for being bad, and probably drop the game.2 -
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✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
For me it’s not about wanting it ‘now’ I can only play a couple of hours max most days. Due to this it takes me an eternity to bridge the CP gap or level alts, especially as I don’t want to mindlessly grind my limited time away.
I would jump at chance to buy some CP or a pre levelled alt. Each to thier own, just give us the option!
??? A few hours a day will get you to cap and then some within a year, EASILY. You don't have to and never had to grind out cp to cap it out. Just play the game! Do quests, dungeons! Literally anything. I dedicated weeks to chest farming and decorating my house when Homestead came out and that hurt my ability to gain cp not even a little bit because even chest exp was giving me enough experience with Enlightment.
I wouldn't be so opposed to lvl50 alts so long as it required having an active lvl50 of the class you wanted the alt to be. But again, it's still no an "to each their own" option because this isn't a solo game.
People will buy their way to lvl50 max cp and then start bogging down groups because they have no idea how the game functions. That would be the norm, not the exception. New players would jump in, hit cap, get immediately blasted for being bad, and probably drop the game.
A year sounds okay to you? What other MMO on the market requires that much grinding besides a Korean grinder like Black Desert Online.0 -
crjs1✭✭✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
For me it’s not about wanting it ‘now’ I can only play a couple of hours max most days. Due to this it takes me an eternity to bridge the CP gap or level alts, especially as I don’t want to mindlessly grind my limited time away.
I would jump at chance to buy some CP or a pre levelled alt. Each to thier own, just give us the option!
??? A few hours a day will get you to cap and then some within a year, EASILY. You don't have to and never had to grind out cp to cap it out. Just play the game! Do quests, dungeons! Literally anything. I dedicated weeks to chest farming and decorating my house when Homestead came out and that hurt my ability to gain cp not even a little bit because even chest exp was giving me enough experience with Enlightment.
I wouldn't be so opposed to lvl50 alts so long as it required having an active lvl50 of the class you wanted the alt to be. But again, it's still no an "to each their own" option because this isn't a solo game.
People will buy their way to lvl50 max cp and then start bogging down groups because they have no idea how the game functions. That would be the norm, not the exception. New players would jump in, hit cap, get immediately blasted for being bad, and probably drop the game.
A year is pretty long.... ridiculously long to get to cap.2 -
TheCyberDruid✭✭✭✭✭I'll hit CP cap in about two months, so after playing for about 8 months. I never grind XP and I have a second character that I play on and off. I never felt that I need to have more CP to play the game. Out of those 8 months I actually played for about 4 months just going through the base content (aka stuff you can/should play solo). Morrowind was a huge disappointment, but Wrothgar was a very nice surprise. If you want to play CP PVP or Vet HM PVE you should aim for max CP, but in that case you will spend the time needed to learn those mechanics and getting the right gear after (hopefully) spending the time to play the actual content easily getting to max CP anyway.
tl;dr: This whole thread makes it seem like there is a lot of content that is blocked off for new players by the need to have max CP. There is actually very little content that 'requires' max (or near max) CP. To be able to play that content to should spend time to learn how to play that content, so you'll get the CP along the way.2 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »I'll hit CP cap in about two months, so after playing for about 8 months. I never grind XP and I have a second character that I play on and off. I never felt that I need to have more CP to play the game. Out of those 8 months I actually played for about 4 months just going through the base content (aka stuff you can/should play solo). Morrowind was a huge disappointment, but Wrothgar was a very nice surprise. If you want to play CP PVP or Vet HM PVE you should aim for max CP, but in that case you will spend the time needed to learn those mechanics and getting the right gear after (hopefully) spending the time to play the actual content easily getting to max CP anyway.
tl;dr: This whole thread makes it seem like there is a lot of content that is blocked off for new players by the need to have max CP. There is actually very little content that 'requires' max (or near max) CP. To be able to play that content to should spend time to learn how to play that content, so you'll get the CP along the way.
You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.0 -
TheCyberDruid✭✭✭✭✭You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭A year is pretty long.... ridiculously long to get to cap.
If it takes you a year to get to 160, then, really, you're not in any position to complain about grind times.
It's almost like you're talking about a post-level cap progression system designed to keep you going for ages after you've already gotten to cap.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »It's almost like you're talking about a post-level cap progression system designed to keep you going for ages after you've already gotten to cap.
It's a conspiracy!
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✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.0 -
jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Leveling a new character should be fun. I see most ppl desperate to be carried all day long in Sky or griding over and over the same dolmes. How sad is that. Really.
The real problem is that ZOS allowed people to create characters that are... all. Just like the single player games of the series. You can be the boss of all possible guilds, mafias, a warewold/vampire, savior of the world but the worst villain at the same time.
The choices you make should block certain paths. Cadwell's apart, I would like to see lizards assaulted by the guards as they enter Wayrest.
But again, leveling an alt takes less than a week playing a couple of hours a day. Do quests, do dungeons. Have fun."Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
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✭✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
Except you keep forgetting that nothing is actually "gated" behind a CP wall. Or do you not actually understand? Gated means that you LITERALLY, I'll say it again, LITERALLY, cannot do this certain activity until you had max CP. If someone, or some group is imposing a limit on CP, that's on them. But there is nothing in the game that a person cannot do at 300 CP. If they want to do Vet HM Asylum at 300 CP, well that's on them, but they're certainly allowed to try.PC - NACP 1125
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✭✭✭✭✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
You vastly overestimate how difficult endgame content is. Which, I mean, that shouldn't be particularly surprising, seeing as you haven't gotten to the point where you can attempt any of it.1 -
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✭starkerealm wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
You vastly overestimate how difficult endgame content is. Which, I mean, that shouldn't be particularly surprising, seeing as you haven't gotten to the point where you can attempt any of it.
Pretty much this. I still love that the Fextralife site was linked for the CP recommendations for vet trials when there's CP 300 guides out there that have better explanations. I'm no longer surprised by the OP's statements being that most of his threads are troll threads anyways.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!2 -
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✭✭✭IndyWendieGo wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
You vastly overestimate how difficult endgame content is. Which, I mean, that shouldn't be particularly surprising, seeing as you haven't gotten to the point where you can attempt any of it.
Pretty much this. I still love that the Fextralife site was linked for the CP recommendations for vet trials when there's CP 300 guides out there that have better explanations. I'm no longer surprised by the OP's statements being that most of his threads are troll threads anyways.
The OP listing a wiki article as fact alone shows the lack of planning and commitment to his purported cause.2 -
Sjizzle✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Why do you even plaay an MMO IF youi want it all now?
To think, it was such a nice game. Now you can exchange, improve, exchange, color...
For me it’s not about wanting it ‘now’ I can only play a couple of hours max most days. Due to this it takes me an eternity to bridge the CP gap or level alts, especially as I don’t want to mindlessly grind my limited time away.
I would jump at chance to buy some CP or a pre levelled alt. Each to thier own, just give us the option!
do u have option u have potion, scrolls, gear with training, use then... stop using the valets.... and play the game !
if u don't like eso option go an play other games which one has P2W option and let us alone with eso at is now...there are many p2win games out ther go and play them if u like using the valets instead of playing a game ... i have nothing against.....Edited by Sjizzle on March 11, 2018 6:18AM2 -
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You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
Yday i was with a 320 and 415 DD's in Scalecaller vet we 1 shot each boss... dmg was a bit low but we did it without any problem u can do all content at CP 300 will be a bit harder but u can do it ! so i don't get your point for CP mechancis catch up...i am casual player too i play 3h / day and not max CP at all ....Edited by Sjizzle on March 11, 2018 6:28AM3 -
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✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »You don't need eight months to learn the mechanics of Veteran Hard Mode dungeons. Eight months to attain max level in a game is a bit ridiculous no matter how you spin it around.
Love how you omitted the bit where I said I spend 4 months on single player content. Granted you can skip that part, but then you don't play the game and just rush towards the end game content. In that case you should not be able to buy your CP for that. Granted you don't need CP 720 for that. You need CP 300-ish. Which is what you get by playing the game. Which is my point.
You will only weigh down your group in some of the harder content with 300 CP. Fang Lair Vet HM, Falkreath Vet HM, Bloodroot Vet HM, every Vet Trial.
That's far from "all you need".
Take this example into account, imagine if you were an individual that was skilled at MMORPGs and had mastered your class in this game but had only 300 CP. it would be a bit discouraging for you to be gated behind that CP wall to perform at your highest level or to satisfy the requirements of groups to even let you in.
Blame the groups, not the CP system.Edited by Jura23 on March 11, 2018 8:58AMGeorgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU1
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