Should there be a CP catch up mechanic? Should we be able to buy them?

Knowledge

As the champion point cap is gradually raised the casual players are left feeling like they are in a never-ending grind to catch-up. Why not offer an alternative similar to EVE Online? EVE Online allows you to purchase skillpoints for your character. Why not allow players in ESO to buy "Champion Packs" on the Crown Store similar to mount speed and inventory space?

Judas Helviaryn

There is a CP catch-up mechanic, it's called enlightenment, and the experience requirements for the lower CP levels are heavily reduced each patch to allow you to catch up.

As much as I love EVE, this is not EVE. EVE's business model does not belong in this game, and if you want that, you should go play EVE.

Earn what you have.

Knowledge

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

There is a CP catch-up mechanic, it's called enlightenment, and the experience requirements for the lower CP levels are heavily reduced each patch to allow you to catch up.

As much as I love EVE, this is not EVE. EVE's business model does not belong in this game, and if you want that, you should go play EVE.

Earn what you have.

I don't feel like that is enough of a catch up. I would settle for permanent enlightenment until the previous CP cap is met. For example, if we had "permanent enlightenment" up to 690 CP that would make sense.

CheepsNSalsa

Buy levels? Are you kidding?

Ackwalan

Knowledge wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

There is a CP catch-up mechanic, it's called enlightenment, and the experience requirements for the lower CP levels are heavily reduced each patch to allow you to catch up.

As much as I love EVE, this is not EVE. EVE's business model does not belong in this game, and if you want that, you should go play EVE.

Earn what you have.

I don't feel like that is enough of a catch up. I would settle for permanent enlightenment until the previous CP cap is met. For example, if we had "permanent enlightenment" up to 690 CP that would make sense.

Lets be honest, you won't be happy until you can buy max CP on the crown store.

WhiteScythe

Knowledge wrote: »

As the champion point cap is gradually raised the casual players are left feeling like they are in a never-ending grind to catch-up. Why not offer an alternative similar to EVE Online? EVE Online allows you to purchase skillpoints for your character. Why not allow players in ESO to buy "Champion Packs" on the Crown Store similar to mount speed and inventory space?

I see your point here I do, I'm one of these people playing catch up however wouldn't people say it's pay to win? Granted someone always says "X is pay to win" I just can't see it happening.

Edit: I will also note that I don't like the Champion Point system, makes me feel like I'll never be able to compete or be "good" enough unless I'm at 720. Really kills the entire experience for people playing catch up like me ZOS.

Hippie4927

Just NO!

Knowledge

CheepsNSalsa wrote: »

Buy levels? Are you kidding?

No, you can buy EXP scrolls, houses, and mount speed.

VaranisArano

You can already buy Skyreach levels with in-game gold.

SirAndy

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

There is a CP catch-up mechanic, it's called enlightenment, and the experience requirements for the lower CP levels are heavily reduced each patch to allow you to catch up.
...
Earn what you have.

Iccotak

Nope.
Not everything in the game should be buyable.
Play the game, you have to earn it

AzraelKrieg

No. Just stop

Ermiq

I think I'll never understand why people grind CP in ESO. CP progression really matters only in CP PvP (and we have non-CP campaign for others where CP means absolutely nothing), and in the highest high-end content with elitist min-maxers in a group (if someone can't catch up now, I really doubt they need that content at all). In any other game aspect, you don't need max CP.

Taleof2Cities

VaranisArano wrote: »

You can already buy Skyreach levels with in-game gold.

^This.^

That way you don't have to spend your real life money.

But as the other posters have said, you have to put in the time like everyone else ... which is shorter these days with the various XP buffs you can obtain.

Iccotak

Eremith wrote: »

I think I'll never understand why people grind CP in ESO. CP progression really matters only in CP PvP (and we have non-CP campaign for others where CP means absolutely nothing), and in the highest high-end content with elitist min-maxers in a group (if someone can't catch up now, I really doubt they need that content at all). In any other game aspect, you don't need max CP.

Agreed, my goal is on getting the gear. Leveling my CP is a byproduct

Twenty0zTsunami

Knowledge wrote: »

As the champion point cap is gradually raised the casual players are left feeling like they are in a never-ending grind to catch-up. Why not offer an alternative similar to EVE Online? EVE Online allows you to purchase skillpoints for your character. Why not allow players in ESO to buy "Champion Packs" on the Crown Store similar to mount speed and inventory space?

not necessary, it's already riciulously easy to get from CP10-160. Running a single dungeon will usually net you multiple champ pts at low lvls

redspecter23

$50 per CP. Bring your wallet and enjoy.

Knowledge

redspecter23 wrote: »

$50 per CP. Bring your wallet and enjoy.

I was thinking the "Champion Packs" could be 1000 crowns each and give 10 CP.

zyk

Ugh.

Acrolas

Daddy's credit card doesn't make one a more cognizant player.

freespirit

WhiteScythe wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

As the champion point cap is gradually raised the casual players are left feeling like they are in a never-ending grind to catch-up. Why not offer an alternative similar to EVE Online? EVE Online allows you to purchase skillpoints for your character. Why not allow players in ESO to buy "Champion Packs" on the Crown Store similar to mount speed and inventory space?

I see your point here I do, I'm one of these people playing catch up however wouldn't people say it's pay to win? Granted someone always says "X is pay to win" I just can't see it happening.

Edit: I will also note that I don't like the Champion Point system, makes me feel like I'll never be able to compete or be "good" enough unless I'm at 720. Really kills the entire experience for people playing catch up like me ZOS.

@WhiteScythe Trust me CP720 doesn't guarrantee a good player......

There are many on way less that can knock the spots off some maxed players!!

monktoasty

Can't you grind like 2 or 3 days to current cap?

Sixty5

ZOS rescale champion exp each patch.
The amount of experience required to reach the cap stays constant.

Between that and enlightenment, catching up with CP is pretty easy.

Jhalin

We already have buyable catch-up's, they're called exp pots and crown experience scrolls. Go buy them and go skyreach.

If you want a $50 MAX ME UP button, go play WoW

Morgul667

NO thanks

WhiteScythe

freespirit wrote: »

WhiteScythe wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

As the champion point cap is gradually raised the casual players are left feeling like they are in a never-ending grind to catch-up. Why not offer an alternative similar to EVE Online? EVE Online allows you to purchase skillpoints for your character. Why not allow players in ESO to buy "Champion Packs" on the Crown Store similar to mount speed and inventory space?

I see your point here I do, I'm one of these people playing catch up however wouldn't people say it's pay to win? Granted someone always says "X is pay to win" I just can't see it happening.

Edit: I will also note that I don't like the Champion Point system, makes me feel like I'll never be able to compete or be "good" enough unless I'm at 720. Really kills the entire experience for people playing catch up like me ZOS.

@WhiteScythe Trust me CP720 doesn't guarrantee a good player......

There are many on way less that can knock the spots off some maxed players!!

Thanks Free! Makes me have faith in the community! I'm trying my best not that I want to "be" the best I just want to be decent!! The ever climbing treadmill of CP.

Ajaxduo

These threads...

SoLooney

buying cp isnt gonna help you at all

you should be trying to get better at the game while you earn cp, instead of buying it all and being an incompotent player.

besides, end game vet trials and pvp, it doesnt mean much

skill is way more important

TheCyberDruid

Jura23

LOL, this is just nightmare.

Afaik they introduced chatch up mechanism years ago, but I guess ppl will never be happy until everything is handed to them on day 1 of playing.

Emma_Overload

Knowledge wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

$50 per CP. Bring your wallet and enjoy.

I was thinking the "Champion Packs" could be 1000 crowns each and give 10 CP.

That's too expensive. If they're gonna sell them, at least let people hit the CP cap for like $100 or something in that range. $720 is ridiculous.