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To all of you that say: "Werewolf is weak"

  • Dracane
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    Aznox wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    against stamina overload spam ? (Howl spam)

    Doesn't change anything but he didn't get "Howl spammed", because :
    - He's a Templar with Eclipse / Total Dark
    - Howl spam isn't part of my rotation.

    Which then adds to the theory, that Werewolf is more than capable :)
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  • Aznox
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    Werewolf is more than capable, it's a fact, and i've always been saying it. :)
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Good . This should distact people away from the vampire complaining for a few .
  • QuebraRegra
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    Skander wrote: »
    Do you have less than 17k health? That could be why you died.

    Have you not play this game yet? You would know that not every skill that hits you is displayed on the death recap

    Okay, so maybe there were other attacks, so what? What are you trying to say about Werewolf? I don't get your point. Howl of Agony for 6k and then everything else was about 3k or less. Is that supposed to show that Werewolf is OP?

    I'll take an opponent using a more expensive Werewolf ultimate over destro ultimate that has 13k per second Eye of Flame ticks while they spam other attacks.

    exactly.... to me this actually proves (as if we needed more proof werewolf needs re balancing/fixing) that werewolf is weak. Those numbers don;t lie... that's weak sauce.
  • dazee
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    Whats OP here is animation cancelling. that needs a nerf.
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  • Skander
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    I hope you are not iSkander from the EU server, that would be funny.
    I agree though, Werewolf needs no buffs. Werewolf is super powerful, especially in pvp. Nothing deals as much damage as a Werewolf. Surely they aren't the best in every situation and they shouldn't. The only improvement I could see being made, is giving them a stamina heal. But that would be crazy and I think that would require their burst to be looked at.

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    Azurya wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Werewolf was always crazy strong in 1v1 and dueling a decent player with a meta WW build is most likely not going to end up well for you unless you can get a bit of distance and burst through.

    Not all classes can do this, and unfortunately for you, mag templar is one of them. You 'could' pull off a combo with PL > Flare > Smiting (in this order, for 20% extra damage on the ulty), followed by a bit of sweeps and finisher, but it's easier said than done when you're locked into healing and surviving the onslaught.

    If you were in heavy and Argonian, you'd probably last longer but it's still doubtful how the encounter would end eventually.

    Besides, it's not just WW that's the problem here in 1v1, a lot of stam sorcs in general are abusing the uninterruptible dark deals and some classes without defile will never be able to fully combat that.

    In addition to that, there are also bugs with fear mechanic and stuns in general this last update, as well as random resource drains, and WW is no exception to this, so do yourself a favor and don't worry too much about it, the game is far from being balanced for 1v1.

    @LegendaryMage My question to you: do you think the game should be more balanced around 1v1 (aka duels), or do you find the current state to be somewhat balanced (in general)?

    so this game should be balanced around some players who like to duel??
    well, that has certainly a future!

    Never said it needed a nerf, learn to read

    @Skander Interesting. Because I just started seeing you on the forums very recently, at least I never saw you before. So I figured, it's just an imposter or someone who happens to have the same name.

    Anyway Skander, you mustn't feel bad. You wore light armor, which is very brave if you don't use damage shields. What could you hope to do against stamina overload spam ? (Howl spam) I believe nobody would survive this for long. Light armor simply doesn't offer anything for healing, heavy armor does.

    Heavy armor templar is dead. You do 0 damage, and your sustain is crap
    I'm forced to wear light armor
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  • Aznox
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    dazee wrote: »
    Whats OP here is animation cancelling. that needs a nerf.

    Are you making fun of me because i wasn't weaving any skill ? :'(
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  • Aznox
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    exactly.... to me this actually proves (as if we needed more proof werewolf needs re balancing/fixing) that werewolf is weak. Those numbers don;t lie... that's weak sauce.

    Why is it that people who don't play it and have no clue about Werewolf are those who keep saying it needs a buff/redesign ?
    Werewolf is fine.

    Or maybe you are trolling OP and i missed the /sarcasm ?
    Edited by Aznox on March 7, 2018 6:10PM
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  • coop500
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    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Skander
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    coop500 wrote: »
    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....

    There is a difference between, destroying everythign on touch, and balance
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  • coop500
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    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....

    There is a difference between, destroying everythign on touch, and balance

    Oh please, the guy died to one werewolf, it happens. Werewolves might finally be good at something besides overland content.

    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Aznox
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    coop500 wrote: »
    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?

    Because we are using invis pots. (true story)
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  • QuebraRegra
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
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    I’ve literally never lost a 1v1 to a WW. Snare him, root him, apply DoTs, defiles.

    Whoah... we are not here to discuss counters, and well thought out strategies to overcome an opponent. I mean.... look at the bones!

    VCUNMrO.gif

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  • QuebraRegra
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    Aznox wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?

    Because we are using invis pots. (true story)

    that might explain it... ;)

  • Skander
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....

    There is a difference between, destroying everythign on touch, and balance

    Oh please, the guy died to one werewolf, it happens. Werewolves might finally be good at something besides overland content.

    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?

    Becouse they are weird. It's a suicide to run them 1vx
    But if you run them xv1 or fair number or smallscale, you just crush
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    I never see ww once in vmol, vhof.
  • coop500
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    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....

    There is a difference between, destroying everythign on touch, and balance

    Oh please, the guy died to one werewolf, it happens. Werewolves might finally be good at something besides overland content.

    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?

    Becouse they are weird. It's a suicide to run them 1vx
    But if you run them xv1 or fair number or smallscale, you just crush

    So they're good at something, again, what's the problem? You want them to suck at everything?
    Hoping for more playable races
  • dazee
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    Aznox wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Whats OP here is animation cancelling. that needs a nerf.

    Are you making fun of me because i wasn't weaving any skill ? :'(

    Weaving in your light and heavy attacks is fine, as long as you're not actually cancelling your ability animations. That just reeks of exploiting.
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
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    dazee wrote: »
    Aznox wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Whats OP here is animation cancelling. that needs a nerf.

    Are you making fun of me because i wasn't weaving any skill ? :'(

    Weaving in your light and heavy attacks is fine, as long as you're not actually cancelling your ability animations. That just reeks of exploiting.

    How many times do we need to link the video where wrobel confirms animation cancelling is a part of the game and is an "un-intended feature" that is perfectly fine to do?
    Edited by Qbiken on March 8, 2018 6:56AM
  • Skander
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    OMG a werewolf actually did something good for once and people freak out and lose their ***, sorry that WWs don't kill over and die in every piece of content in the game, jeesh....

    There is a difference between, destroying everythign on touch, and balance

    Oh please, the guy died to one werewolf, it happens. Werewolves might finally be good at something besides overland content.

    If Werewolves were so OP, why is there like none of them around?

    Becouse they are weird. It's a suicide to run them 1vx
    But if you run them xv1 or fair number or smallscale, you just crush

    So they're good at something, again, what's the problem? You want them to suck at everything?

    This game is renown to make people win in any situation, for a balance factor. If you can't possibly win becouse a mechanic is broken, yes there is a problem.

    But still, if they buff werewolf, the next month they will nerf it
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  • Ashamray
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    In my experience, werewolf has always had a really good damage but I don't see much ppl using it.
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