Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

The 30k proc is an ideal situation. It was a duel.

It sounds more like your people stood there, did nothing to avoid or reduce damage, let an opponent stack as many buffs as possible, and set every advantage you could manage to maximize that damage.

Even then - In cyrodiil, 30k becomes 15k. Blocking even part of it reduces that number further. Using any form of resistance boost brings that number down even lower.

We're looking at that advantage-jacked build that most players won't be able to manage doing closer to 10-14k damage in great conditions.

Against a NB with stealth - Insta-stop.
Against anyone with purge - Insta-stop
Against anyone able to do semi-decent heals - Power through with lower pressure
Against anyone who can block for a few seconds, or on the last few ticks - Power through with lower pressure
Against anyone who has an Escape ability - High chance of avoiding a large amount of the damage
Against anyone with enough common sense to use their imagination - A way to work around it.

Of course, this is all "On Paper" ideas.. Much as your vulgarly over-bloated damage numbers are "On Paper" alarm.

It's easier to counter than eye of the storm even. Like come on ya'll, just break the beam or block it and have that long cooldown.

Dont nerf, buff the other 1000 useless Sets.

Datthaw wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Pretty sure those 22k dmg are after battle spirit, and the dmg can go even higher (i got hit by 23k dmg from 3 ticks, so total dmg would have been way over 30k).

The range isn't that short and getting out of range isn't always possible. The cooldown is barely relevant in PvP, if it just kills the target anyway.

It is simply ridiculous in PvP.

amir412 wrote: »

Bruh, get out of here
@Datthaw

I assume the guy who posted this pic is very squishy, but still, u can tell that it is possible to do 22k dmg on heavy armor, well built around resists.

I've used zaan there is no way it did that much damage. Not to mention there is an 8 next to it which means that's two procs of it. Probably totally unblocked low resist set up photo

I've done the math 45,365 is the absolute most zaan can proc for based on paper stats, no mitigation taken into account. That is half in cyro at 22,682, with no mitigation. That damage is once every 18 seconds which when you think about it is only 1,260 damage a second.

So I call total bull on that picture. The set is a gimmick, yall need to stop crying and learn to play

Maybe you should read some posts in topic before posting. When you combine Zaan and Elf Bane set (which adds 2s to Zaans effect) you get numbers like that... Check again mate

Datthaw wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Pretty sure those 22k dmg are after battle spirit, and the dmg can go even higher (i got hit by 23k dmg from 3 ticks, so total dmg would have been way over 30k).

The range isn't that short and getting out of range isn't always possible. The cooldown is barely relevant in PvP, if it just kills the target anyway.

It is simply ridiculous in PvP.

amir412 wrote: »

Bruh, get out of here
@Datthaw

I assume the guy who posted this pic is very squishy, but still, u can tell that it is possible to do 22k dmg on heavy armor, well built around resists.

I've used zaan there is no way it did that much damage. Not to mention there is an 8 next to it which means that's two procs of it. Probably totally unblocked low resist set up photo

I've done the math 45,365 is the absolute most zaan can proc for based on paper stats, no mitigation taken into account. That is half in cyro at 22,682, with no mitigation. That damage is once every 18 seconds which when you think about it is only 1,260 damage a second.

So I call total bull on that picture. The set is a gimmick, yall need to stop crying and learn to play

Maybe you should read some posts in topic before posting. When you combine Zaan and Elf Bane set (which adds 2s to Zaans effect) you get numbers like that... Check again mate

Which still makes it a 7 second proc not 8 how about you read. And at that point you're sacrificing a 2pc monster and a 5pc set to fight around a proc... now tell me how the hell is that NOT a gimmick

7s proc incl 1 start tick. 8 ticks all together. Base does 6.

Zaan should be up. Make ticks for critical hit able. Return to 15 sec cooldown. And 100% proc from 2 critical light attack within 5 or more seconds.

Dont be a vamp? If vamp is required for your class to be functional, maybe you should ask for zos for a buff to your class.

Just disable it or make it have a different effect in pvp, along with other stupid proc sets. Let's use our actual skills, please.


But of course, this isn't going to happen so honestly I don't even care anymore.

Seems like a L2Buythedlc issue

ak_pvp wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

If you use it in pve its nothing special imo and just seems to be the pvp players crying about it.

So? I get tons of complains from dungeon bosses about it. /s

No, seriously. Wasn't the word around that it can add up to 2k more dps than any other 2p set?
And of course you won't complain if you aren't at the recieving end of it. Which is rather hard to be in PvE, isn't it?

2K extra ST DPS at max potential. Seen dummies where it hits like 4.2k, wheras the next best thing is around 2.5k. But depending on mechanics, i.e. popcorn its not constantly sustainable, something like illambris/skoria may be favored, of groth in add heavy fights. (Though often cleave is fine as is.)

Of course, different situations result in different BiS. ST sets will lag behind in AoE situations. ST will outparse AoE sets in ST fights. So?
I guess after all it's up to one's attitude if he thinks 10-15% of his total pve DPS (or more, if your overall dps is low) coming from a 2p set are okay or not.

Datthaw wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Pretty sure those 22k dmg are after battle spirit, and the dmg can go even higher (i got hit by 23k dmg from 3 ticks, so total dmg would have been way over 30k).

The range isn't that short and getting out of range isn't always possible. The cooldown is barely relevant in PvP, if it just kills the target anyway.

It is simply ridiculous in PvP.

amir412 wrote: »

Bruh, get out of here
@Datthaw

I assume the guy who posted this pic is very squishy, but still, u can tell that it is possible to do 22k dmg on heavy armor, well built around resists.

I've used zaan there is no way it did that much damage. Not to mention there is an 8 next to it which means that's two procs of it. Probably totally unblocked low resist set up photo

I've done the math 45,365 is the absolute most zaan can proc for based on paper stats, no mitigation taken into account. That is half in cyro at 22,682, with no mitigation. That damage is once every 18 seconds which when you think about it is only 1,260 damage a second.

So I call total bull on that picture. The set is a gimmick, yall need to stop crying and learn to play

Maybe you should read some posts in topic before posting. When you combine Zaan and Elf Bane set (which adds 2s to Zaans effect) you get numbers like that... Check again mate

Which still makes it a 7 second proc not 8 how about you read. And at that point you're sacrificing a 2pc monster and a 5pc set to fight around a proc... now tell me how the hell is that NOT a gimmick

And all this for a set which can be neutralized just pressing purge, cloak or simply rolling to 10 meters away (for those who don't know, with a single roll dodge you cover 8m). When lolling is not enough...

Zaan 2-piece bonus:

Set accesses list of all @names who post nerf-x threads in the forums. Regardless of distance to player, set procs immediately on any opposing player from the list who enters Cyrodiil or the Imperial City.

There. I didn't fix PvP, but I fixed the forums!